Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

I have a 55" 4k TV, and the difference is definitely noticeable. Before I upgraded I told myself it wasn't worth it and that the upgrade wouldn't be noticeable for me, yada yada. Until I got a PS4 Pro and gaming PC and wanted to take full advantage. And let me tell you, even 4k Netflix is a considerable improvement. Every little detail is super crisp, you can see the individual poors and skin textures... it's definitely noticeable. And this is coming from someone who for the longest time believed 4K was not a major improvement. But it is.

That said, it's definitely not the same jump we saw from SD to HD. By no means. But just because the jump isn't that large doesn't mean the jump isn't considerable in its own right. As for HDR... well, I could do without it. I think it's a fad, and works better for photography or film. But video games are animated, and anything that's animated can be animated to show the lighting and colors however you want from the start. HDR for video games is a buzzword at best. Half the time it makes the games look worse, I kid you not. They need to keep HDR for film and movies and TV but for video games... they are already designed to look how the designers want them to look. Anything beyond that is just enhancement and modification

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And to clarify, the jump from SD to 1080p was necessary. 400 pound tvs became ultra thin, lightweight, high definition, widescreen devices. That was very necessary. 4k isn't nearly as necessary. The ultra thin and lightweight and wide screen is already there. Even the high definition... is already there. It's simply a progression- a considerably noticeable progression of course, but it's not something I'd deem "necessary". I can play my Switch in 1080p and it's still perfectly fine- and half the games I have on PS4 (no, I'd say the majority of games I have on PS4) are limited to 1080p regardless of running on Pro. And it's perfectly fine. And when a game does offer 4k, usually I opt for the 1080p 60fps option (if available) because it still looks good enough and performance trumps that jump to 4K, imo. Not to mention the TV upscales to 4K so you're getting more bang for your buck that way.

4K is so 2016! I get the actors to come round to my house and perform directly in front of me. The cost is ridiculous but the resolution is amazing. You feel like you could reach out and actually touch them. Apparently though this is not allowed.

@Luna_110 HDR, high dynamic range, refers to a wider array of colours. It just means the TV is capable of producing more colours, the contrast is higher etc. It's different from the HDR function on your camera though, that refers to capturing several photos in a short amount of time and combining them to increase the contrast. For a TV it means for example that a black pixel is really black and not just the colour of your TV when it's turned off (a dark gray).

@JaxonH Just to clarify, SD and HD have nothing to do with the jump from CRT to LCD TVs, that was a coincidence. 480p LED screens are also a thing.

@Octane
It was part of the appeal of upgrading. Coincidence or not, it all factored into the appeal at the time.

I think Switch is capable of doing HDR. It's only a matter of when is Nintendo going to enable it thru system update.

@Azooooz The Switch doesn't support HDMI 2.0 (USB-C is the bottleneck), so HDR isn't possible unfortunately.

@skywake @Therad @Octane

And I gotta be honest, guys, a lot of 4k vs. HD discussions have the odor of "the haves vs. the have-nots," if I'm being totally honest. And you can argue it either way. The "haves" with the 4k say they can definitely see the difference, but the "have-nots" with the standard stuff say we're just seeing things and trying to justify our purchase. There's always a hint of jealousy and stubborness from the "have-nots," and always an air of indignance from the "haves."

It's pretty silly. But I'm with @Octane on this one. There's a difference, guys. A real, perceivable difference in image between an HD and 4k set. If you don't own a 4k and don't want to believe that, then fine. Run through all the numbers and graphs you want to "prove" your point; accuse us of merely wanting to see the difference, etc. if that will help justify your position. But from one dude with a 4k TV to a bunch of other dudes who may or may not have 4k TVs: there's a noticeable, very nice upgrade in the image whether you're watching upscaled cable or bona-fide Ultra Blu-Ray.

We're arguing over pixels on a screen.

Futurama was right. Men want to always be seen as better than the others with TVs.

Ppint is 4k is coming and will one day be the future standard. Right now it is a side thing while adoption increases and 4k media becomes more common and frequent which will happen as prices for consumers decrease assuming there isnt another recession or the market collapses or something.

Summary: 4K for media is a must. Gaming, not so.

So how about that thing this thread is about.

Nice to see it has a mostly 60fps library

@BLP_Software I read an article on Eurogamer a few days ago, not sure when exactly it was from but it said of all the games currently available on Switch over 80% of them are 60fps.

Oh the great old frame per second debate!

It's so cute... ;P

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1sGNaZdRxueVFN0WVgzekxENlE/...

Still, it's good to know that there are smooth games on the Switch. But I've graduated to 144hz monitors now ;P

@BLP_Software I'm looking forward to a future where large 4k displays are cheap and outdated, and while everyone is arguing over the validation of getting surgery to replace their eyes with ones capable of percieving giga-scan dodecatuple RGB-range 65,536x34,560 mural displays with motion-detecting cameras for shining the beams of light directly into each viewer's eyes across their plus-sized living rooms with a blinking-based remote control scheme, I'll be enjoying a nice 4K display which is already beyond what I can tell the difference up-close for a bargain price.

A lot like the modern day, in fact. Except the bargain price part.

@Nicolai That future sounds terrifying, lol.

For the sake of a fun anecdotal conversation, how are the Switch Supplies in your area. When it first came out it was sold out everywhere here in my area, but things have significantly calmed down. According to the Gamestop that I sometimes go to, people are also frequently returning their Switches. The stores I've seen also seemingly have a lot in supply now.

Like I said, all anecdotal, but I'm interested in others' stories.

@Nicolai Sign me up. I've forgotten what stereoscopic vision feels like. lol. Then again I like that I can drive close to the line without being distracted on the left when I'm in tight spaces like construction areas or small bridges.

@-Green- I've never seen any in the wild. Supposedly local stores are getting stock but they get cleaned out pretty quickly. I live in a small town now so they aren't getting more than 5-10 systems per store.

@-Green- I'm waiting for a bundle so I'm not really actively looking for them, but even then I have seen them at Walmart on multiple occasions. They are always gone the next time I'm there, but I have had many chances to get one if I had wanted to.

@-Green- I wouldn't know the full extent of current stock in my area, but when I went to pre-order my Switch, there was (IIRC) only four Switches left available. Granted, that was the Saturday following the Switch showcase, so demand was much higher then.

The online listing for EB Games has both Switches out of stock.

This is such an patronizing and elitist post. This is the equivalent to me saying "You are just trying to justify your failed purchase". Do you use that logic in other areas, such as politics? By that logic a person not interested in politics, but always vote republican would be better to listen to than one that didn't vote because that person couldn't stand behind any of the parties platforms.

I have repeatedly said that it is better to look at the other parts of what the 4k TVs offers. Buying a 4k TV for the pixel counts is stupid as hell, since the median household sits so far away that they are barely getting any benefits from 1080p. Sure you might have bought a big enough TV and sits close enough (which is easy to test btw), but the vast majority would be far better of if they look at the other areas the newer TV sets offer. Such as contrast, saturation, the HDR range of that particular set, the smart functions etc. Informed purchases are always preferred.

Anyway, I am done with this discussion.

Oh, and I have a 4k TV.

@Therad For the record, I mean to say that I can't tell the difference, but I don't deny that other people can. I just consider myself to have pretty fuzzy eyesight.