Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

Lawbreakers: coming soon to an Atari Jaguar near you

@Grumblevolcano Maybe, but then the market confusion of there being TWO pro controllers, with only a $10-$15 difference but with different features.....that would be a mess all on its own.

@Luna_110 We need a "what stupid excuses to not port to Switch can you come up with" thread going. How about "We can't port to Switch because it doesn't have a hard drive" or "We can't port to Switch because of sleep mode" or "We can't port to Switch because the disc drive is too slow." and "We can't port to Switch because this game is meant to play on a TV!" "We can't port to Switch because it's too thin!"

I'd say "We can't port to Switch because it doesn't have enough buttons!" but then I realized, no...that one's real....

"We can't port to Switch because a rat keeps stealing our lunch."

@NEStalgia Play a game of is it a real excuse or not?

I swear game devs have gotten so lazy. They aren't even trying to make their bs sound plausible. If there wasn't a deluge of games to play overall I'd be tempted to exit the market entirely (what consumer sticks around for sub-par products, constant excuses and inflating costs with poor return?) but I think the worst of it is that lazy devs often cause me to miss out on gems from smaller, quiet devs that put out quality product just because of my general annoyance with the whole thing.

Optimize (and QA test please) and put games on as many platforms as you can, stop trying to ransom games out because it isn't the Nintendo only gamers they have to worry about losing, its the multiplatform owners that don't want to jump through twenty hoops just to play a game.

As far as I'm concerned, unless it's a fairly demanding modern AAA game or an exclusive, there's no excuse for a game not to release on the Switch alongside other platforms. Capcom, in particular, is getting pretty ridiculous.

Which is fine. Third party devs who refuse to support the Switch won't get any money from me, which means more money to spend on people who are releasing their games on the Switch. There are already more Switch games I want than I can afford, and if the system continues to sell like it has, plenty of developers are going to want to release their games on it.

@Ralizah What gets me is the "fairly demanding" list isn't as large (from a technical perspective) as many of these devs try to make it out to be. I really am starting to miss the Gamecube/xbox/ps2 days.

[EDIT: Just noticed the dedicated thread! I'll repost there ]

@Ralizah Not sure what you're talking about concerning Capcom. They've only kept Monster Hunter World and Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite off the Switch so far. And, Sony royalties aside (it's actually a bit touching that these companies are vying for more Monster Hunter on their platforms), it'd likely fit in that ''demanding AAA title'' category you mentioned. But also knowing Capcom, they likely have a Freedom version of the game in the pipeline, if not an entirely new game, for the Switch.

Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite is also a Sony paid exclusivity. We may not like or agree with this practice but it at least makes more sense than other excuses.

If we're talking XX localization... come on. Give Stories a chance.

@meleebrawler Disney and Mega Man too.

@meleebrawler Where did you hear that MvC:I is a sony exclusive (they have an exclusive costume but that isn't new for Sony.)? It is going to xbone and pc as well. I still think we may have the possibility of a later port for that...pc isn't coming out same day last I checked. Getting it on PC personally but I'll double dip SOOOOO fast if it goes to switch.

@meleebrawler They should port Stories to the Switch. I'm interested, but not enough to buy a 3DS.

@Octane Yeah swear the Switch (and it started with the WiiU really) has torpedoed my 3ds interest. I've always been a reluctant handheld gamer (I buy them because of the games but I don't like the small screen cuz cyclops with glasses) so even really nice games like Ever Oasis (which I like very, very much) is failing to hold my interest. I really am just going to have to send one of my 3ds systems in for a tv out mod. Otherwise I fear I may not finish my back log and I have like 100+ 3ds games.

I definitely wish the 3DS era would end. I want all the developer focus to be concentrated on the Switch.

I'm in the bored with 3DS since I got a Switch camp as well. Once you've played the Switch it's so hard to go back to the 3DS and I have a new 3DS XL. I'd rather explore hyrule in BoTW another umpteenth time than play any of my 3DS backlog.

I don't know that it's fair to ask for ports of games that were designed to run on the 3DS. And, let's be candid: the 3DS is staying around for a while and will likely continue to attract a healthy amount of Japanese third party support. Which is fine. Nintendo seems to be focusing the bulk of its development resources on Switch games, and that's all I can reasonably ask for.

@meleebrawler
No Disney Afternoon Collection
No Mega Man Legacy Collection 1 or 2
No localization announcement for Monster Hunter XX
No Monster Hunter World
Nothing regarding Resident Evil 7, Resident Evil Remake HD, Resident Evil 0 HD, Revelations HD, Revelations 2, etc.

All we've got so far is a lazy, hugely overpriced port of Super Street Fighter II HD with a barely functional extra gameplay mode.

@Ryu_Niiyama I mean, I agree, but since it is underpowered hardware, I'm giving third parties the benefit of the doubt here. I would be perfectly happy with the stuff that is guaranteed to run well on the hardware, as opposed to games like The Witcher 3, Destiny 2, etc. which would like require a lot of alterations to run well on the Switch.

@Ryu_Niiyama Because what they really mean is they blew the entire budget and timeline on cramming every visual effect and every focus group tested "gameplay" feature into the game, which allowed not time for optimization.....optimization doesn't sell copies in screenshots, so the game BARELY runs on an X1X let alone porting it to another platform. Game design is now "throw in every visual effect a triple-SLI rig can run then see if you can scale it down to a PS4."

If there's a BUSINESS reason for not porting to Switch, fine. I have no problem with EA saying Dead Space won't come to Switch because it's unlikely to sell well. It probably IS unlikely to sell well. But half the other games, it's down to tech enthusiasts who make the game to push technology than to actually make the game.

@Arcamenel It's a weird phenomenon. I'm the same way. Still looking forward to Ever Oasis and Samus Returns. I LOVE the 3D effect. I still wish Switch had the 3D effect. I love it. And yet, I keep picking Arms and Minecraft over continuing DQ7 despite how amazing that game is....

@Ralizah Heck, Vita still gets Japanese third party games. Certainly 3DS will for quite some time.

Also, Squeenix isn't far from Capcom on that hitlist. They pledged big Switch support. So far nothing on DQ11, nothing on KH3, nothing on FFVII, heck, nothing on Octopath.

And Witcher 3.....remember when Witcher was teased in the Switch reveal trailer? CDPR was planning to bring SOMETHING to the Switch....

Destiny I don't mind. An always online game ISN'T a great match for Switch, despite Splatoon and Arms. Surprised Rocket League made the jump, honestly.

@NEStalgia Here's the difference: we know DQXI and Octopath are supposedly coming to the Switch, and it's not like Squeenix has been releasing games in the meantime that would be a good fit for the platform. Who knows when we'll hear anything concrete about KH3, FFVII:R, etc. for ANY platform.

They haven't been actively spurning the Switch like Capcom has.

And I'm pretty sure they didn't tease The Witcher in the Switch reveal. They did tease Skyrim a good deal, though, which might be what you're thinking of.

Considering CDProjekt Red had to extensively patch the home console versions of TW3 to get them to run at an acceptable performance level, I can't imagine them trying to get TW3 to run on a platform that's... what, half as powerful?

@Ralizah True enough. I thought I recall Witcher teases....but you're probably right. I recall CDPR being one of those "we can't optimize stuff even for normal PCs" companies

Amazon Spain seems to have listed Fire Emblem Fates Complete Edition for Switch.

If this is true, the FE fanbase is going to be worse than when the Metroid fanbase found out about Federation Force.