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Dezzy

Haru17 wrote:

all consumer electronics because they are made by poverty-slave labor where worker and individual rights are suppressed by armed guards

Which companies are using actual slavery? I'm fairly sure that's illegal pretty much everywhere.

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Haru17

I swear, people are allergic to talking about Zelda in this thread. I'd still like to talk about the photo, y'know, if anyone else does...

@Dezzy For the record, it does not matter. The people don't have a choice. They're in poverty without any other opportunities. You can't just go live off the land in urban SE Asia. So Foxconn is very much de facto slavery. Also, you did read the part about the armed guards right? Many of these people live at the factories they work at, called "Free Trade Zones."

Anyway, look it up — it's not something to be explained away or minimized.

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Octane

Ah, yes, seasons! Would be neat, but the chances are slim. Probably just an autumn inspired forest.

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Haru17 wrote:

Unlike in Fable 3, this seedling may yet grow into a grand tree of ambition.

"Unlike in Fable 3" should be the standard of how to make a video game in a fantasy setting tbh.

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Oracle of Seasons subplot confirmed!

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Nicolai

I don't think it's too outlandish that at least a portion of Hyrule is affected by seasons. Places like the snowy mountains in the Northwest are obviously going keep snowing, but maybe there's a single region based around the changing seasons?

All they would have to do is have a few designs for their trees instead of the one. If they use similar tree designs across the map, it might not be as much work as we think.

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Haru17

Nicolai wrote:

I don't think it's too outlandish that at least a portion of Hyrule is affected by seasons. Places like the snowy mountains in the Northwest are obviously going keep snowing, but maybe there's a single region based around the changing seasons?

All they would have to do is have a few designs for their trees instead of the one. If they use similar tree designs across the map, it might not be as much work as we think.

Basically just the standard deciduous and birch tree models would turn red before eventually losing their leaves over a course of in-game days. That could make it really impactful to return to previous areas after progressing further in the game. Anyway, to truly be a full-featured seasonal mechanic animal pathing and spawn patterns would have to change in a simulation of migration and snowfall would have to move across certain portions of the landscape during winter and into spring. Also autumn rains =)

What's more, I wouldn't expect this for the costal regions or the area with the giant mangrove trees (or whatever they were exactly) that we saw in the TGA demo to flag with winter. Only the temperate areas would do so. And do keep in mind, temperate doesn't necessarily equal north. The Zelda team may not be planning Hyrule with a latitude like that of NA or Japan IRL, and may not even be considering position in relation to the equator at all (the more likely option).

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Dezzy

Haru17 wrote:

@Dezzy For the record, it does not matter. The people don't have a choice. They're in poverty without any other opportunities. You can't just go live off the land in urban SE Asia. So Foxconn is very much de facto slavery. Also, you did read the part about the armed guards right? Many of these people live at the factories they work at, called "Free Trade Zones."

That's no doubt true in certain situations but as a general trend in places like China, it's disastrously false. About 200 million people have gone from poor to middle class in China just since the year 2000. That's one of the greatest explosions in wealth and opportunity in all of human history. Using the fact that it hasn't happened for absolutely everyone to compare it to slavery, where it happens for no-one, is a really dangerous statistical confusion. It's a bit like pointing out that you know some smokers who didn't get cancer as evidence that smoking doesn't cause cancer. You really have to look at overall trends rather than individual anecdotes.

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Haru17

@Dezzy At the same time, you can't use unrelated statistics to explain away very real immoralities. Foxxcon does exist, it does operate in China in part, and it does make billions on people's backs. A rising tide lifts many boats, but not all. Anyway, just go watch the No Logo documentary — It's on YouTube. The author is very well-spoken and lays out the whole thing for you.

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JoyBoy

Can we PLEASE stay on topic and continue talking about why having seasons is a pretty exciting idea after all. PLEASE.

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Monkey_Balls

Seasons were hinted at in 2014 when Miyamoto mentioned the growing apples. Maybe the seasons work in real-time based on the system clock? Time travel is always an option of course.

Haru17 wrote:

Zelda's Facebook: "Now until the launch of The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, we’ll be exploring the Hyrulean landscape with new screenshots."

There's no way they can drag that out for another 6+ months. It will just irritate people after a while. A March launch on the other hand...

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Haru17

Monkey_Balls wrote:

There's no way they can drag that out for another 6+ months. It will just irritate people after a while. A March launch on the other hand...

That thought crossed my mind. I certainly hope the screenshots only cover three months as opposed to half a year's worth. Less spoilers and fewer long pauses that way, I figure.

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Haru17

I just noticed something. There's a little chunk of the Great Plateau that is separated from the main section by a ravine to the north. It is also ringed by part of the ancient wall, so it likely plays some role later in the story after you can circumvent the sheer cliffs. Presumably a smallish dungeon or the resting place of the Master Sword or Triforce.

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Haru17

Octane wrote:

Link?

What do you mean?

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Octane

@Haru17 To the video / screenshot where you noticed it.

I was half expecting someone to post a picture of Link after I posted that..

Octane

Haru17

@Octane Oh, hell. You're messin' me up with that capitalization, man! It's late here, haha.

At about 2:30.

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Octane

@Haru17 I see, could be something, could be more nothingness. Shouldn't be too difficult to climb I think. If it's a dungeon, then it's pretty close to the Plateau.

Also, late? You mean like 5AM late? Then what are you still doing awake?

Octane

Haru17

@Octane Look, okay. Today was my last final, I can cut loose a bit. I'll try to right my sleep schedule by Christmas.

And yeah, that area is smallish. I'm just wondering what was worth seperating from the demo and hiding like that. Maybe a quest immediately after we get the paraglider?

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Octane

@Haru17 That reminds me, we still don't know what we'll be doing in the game. Exploration? Yes, but why? To stop Ganon probably, maybe save someone? But are there quests? And I mean The Witcher-like quests and not Zelda side-quests. Are there proper dungeons? Why do you want to explore? Just to get better gear that breaks after a couple of uses anyway? Questions, questions..

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