Topic: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild

I'm talking about BotW.

There's no swamps in PH... I Think?

@Meowpheel There wasn't an Ocean King in Breath.

Never said there was.

I'm talking about the swamp filled with islands taken directly from that sea (well, the names).

It's basically one of the biggest and most direct references in the map. I don't think they even modified the names of the islands like they did with most of the places. Also there's a Linebeck island there.

@Meowpheel Oh, well why didn't you just say that? I'm not sure what the point of all the names on the map was when they're just featureless hills and such.

I would take the map locations as much less substantial timeline evidence, since the developers simply appeared to be trying to fill the map with names, causality be damned. In my opinion, the mention of the Twilight Realm in the first memory is the only truly substantial evidence, as it takes place in cutscene dialogue, and therefore connected to the game's narrative.

I suppose the possibility of a convergence isn't out of the question, even if it is theoretically absurd. But my money is on the child timeline.

@Nicolaison

While that makes sense, there are two things to note:

• I haven't seen it within the game yet, but apparently there is a reference to Princess Ruto. If she is referred to as a sage, then that clearly removes the child timeline from consideration.

There are four possibilities: child, adult, defeated, and convergence (which is currently unofficial but is possible). Of the four, I think we can rule out the adult timeline (not only has Ganon only attacked Hyrule twice in this timeline, as Aonuma said that BotW takes place in a timeline where Ganon attacked Hyrule many times, but it's quite clear at the end of Wind Waker that the old Hyrule is abandoned in favor of new Hyrule, which is not the case in this game.

@Octane @Meowpheel @gcunit @Joeynator3000
Hi guys I just had a question that I hope one of you could answer. Would it be possible to have a standalone thread asking about in which timeline/when BotW takes place? I know a standalone thread existed previously and one of you recommended that it should be closed and discussed here, but it would be nice to have a standalone thread so that it would attract more attention and thus generate more discussion (instead of being buried in the general BotW thread).

@shadow-wolf I personally have no issues, but perhaps wait for the others to pitch in. Thanks for asking.

Yeah there is a reference to Princess Ruto, noting how the Divine Beast was named after the legendary princess of the Zora tribe, who lived 100s of 1000s of years ago....... @shadow-wolf

@shadow-wolf The timeline is pointless, so I'm not the best person to ask...

@gcunit You're welcome!

@G0dlike @Tsurii Thanks for letting me know about that! If the Divine Beast were named after Ruto, then she must have done something important in this timeline. Of course, without referring to her as a sage it's not any evidence against the child timeline (technically she could've done something else important). Do either of you know if Darunia, Nabooru, or Saria are mentioned and referred to as sages?

@Octane Haha I respect that, although I'd like to politely disagree with you. The timeline helps flesh out the universe's lore and makes each Zelda game a lot more impactful. There's a lot of "mind blown" moments if you pay attention to the timeline and how it explains events not explicitly detailed in the games. For example, Wind Waker directly mentions Ocarina of Time, and understanding Ocarina allows you to understand the Hero of Time legend as well as why Ganondorf is calmer and wiser than usual (because he was already sealed in the past), what the Koroks used to be, the fact that the Deku Tree in Wind Waker is the same one as the little one that is born in Ocarina, etc. Twilight Princess has a lot of unexplained things that make sense once you understand the timeline, like who the Hero's Shade is, why the first song you sing with the Hero's Shade in wolf form is the Song of Healing, why Ganondorf has the Triforce of Power in a "divine prank", etc. Skyward Sword explains how the Master Sword that features in every subsequent Zelda game was created, as well as why Ganon keeps returning constantly to attack Hyrule.

Breath of the Wild won't enjoy as many mind-blown moments simply because it's so far into the future of whichever timeline it's in, but understanding which timeline it's in still will flesh out the game's setting and story quite a bit.

Urbosa mentions that Vah Naboris was named after the ancient gerudo sage who fought against ganon or something like that.

Also, I have this theory that Vah Medoh was named after Mido, not Medli.

Seems to me like both are valid opinions.

Countdown to DLC Pack 1: The Master Trials

Hello. I'm Fujibayashi, Director of The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild.

From now until June 30, we plan to update this site daily with information related to DLC Pack 1, which can only be purchased as part of the Expansion Pass. The Master Trials pack includes new armor you can acquire by finding the right chests.

In this first post, I'll be discussing the Korok Mask.

http://zelda.com/breath-of-the-wild/news/dlc-pack-one-countdo...

Loads more detail at the link.

Breath of the Wild already had enough trolls throughout the world (Steppe Talus', chameleon Lizalfos), the problem was that it just repeated the same thing over and over again until you became painfully aware of what the 'surprise' was.

This being a Zelda game where there are two side quests (not marked) to fight the same bosses 40 times over.

To be honest, they were never even trolls/surprises to me. The Steppe Talus and Lizalfos were incredibly easy to spot, with the former having huge telltale signs as to it being there. They sure as heck weren't Dark Soul level Trolls, with literal invisible enemies and enemies hidden out of you line of sight ready to one shot from behind. I'm okay with that though.

@Tsurii Oh OK that makes sense. If you're interested you should check out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mEz8iKjK3s . This person seems to have a lot of evidence to back up his convergence theory, including a scene at 1:17 where Ruto is explicitly mentioned as a sage. I think it's a bit spoilery, there may be some scenes at the end of the game in the video so I'll just pretend I never saw them and you should be careful if you haven't already beaten the game.

@Meowpheel What makes you say that? Van Medoh is the Rito Divine Beast, right? Why would it be named after a Kokiri instead of a Rito?

@shadow-wolf well it's mostly a train of thought I had...

The beasts are named after sages from OoT.

What else was named after OoT sages? The towns in Zelda 2.

There we have towns for the five sages from that game, plus two. The towns of Mido and Kasuto.

From Wind Waker we know there were actually seven sages, a Kokiri sage of wind and a Zora sage of earth.

The sages from WW are named Fa*do* and Lar*uto*. So maybe Mi*do* and Kas*uto* were the names of the OoT-era predecessors of those sages from WW.

The Vah Medoh dungeon is centered around the concept of wind, so naming it after the sage of wind would make sense. Medoh also sounds much more like Mido than Medli.

The timeline only matters in terms of which games are after certain other games, and then not even much because of how the games are not made with continuity in mind. And even after that the last three games (excluding Tri Force Heroes) have been made in such a way as to ignore even that tenuous continuity. For instance A Link Between Worlds is titled as a direct sequel to ALttP, but it basically behaves as if that game had never happened by retracing its steps like a remake.

Skyward Sword and Breath of the Wild are essentially a soft reboot, ignoring the three goddesses first established in A Link to the Past ('s manual or something) and Ganondorf from Ocarina and generalizing the core conflict to demons vs humans, with the Goddess (singular) above them. But the Goddess is just Zelda and she's just as helpless as before she was a Goddess so none of that really matters.

It's pretty telling of the timeline's 'importance' when Skyward Sword was set so far back that none of it was relevant, Breath of the Wild was set so far forward that none of it was relevant, and the later game's continuity consisted of misspelled names applied to rocks and a line of dialogue so vague and creatively translated that fans are still asking for an official explanation.

Hello. I'm Iwamoto, Assistant Director of The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild.

With DLC Pack 1, The Master Trials, you can acquire the armor of a Phantom (this DLC is only available through the purchase of the Expansion Pass).

http://zelda.com/breath-of-the-wild/news/dlc-pack-one-countdo...

God the item effects are dull.