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Octane

I chased a goat and it disappeared into thin air...

@Spanjard Thanks!

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Haru17

Octane wrote:

I chased a goat and it disappeared into thin air...

So, did you finish Horizon or cave in to the hype? And yeah, animals do that. You're supposed to gear stealth and catch them unaware, I think. Not the biggest fan of it myself.

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Octane

@Haru17 Nope, still playing both. I've had two full days of Horizon though and I'm about 20 hours in, so I think today will be a mostly Zelda day. I think I'll just alternate between them.

Octane

shani

Finally, I found my first memory!

gcunit wrote:

is there a way to cycle which arrows you're using whilst you've got the bow out, rather than having to go into the + menu and change arrows there?

Yes, with d-pad left (or was it right?) while you have a bow in your hands.

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jump

Octane wrote:

I chased a goat and it disappeared into thin air...

Thanks!

There's a glowing blue chipmunk thing that I've been after which disappeares, I've got no idea if I'm meant to catch or kill it.

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Alright, I gotta stop getting into arguments with jump. Someone remind me next time.

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AlexSays

@Octane That's exactly what I'm doing. Yesterday was mostly Horizon, so going to spend most of today on Zelda.

Tomorrow back to Horizon..

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Octane

@jump I've seen it too. I crouched up on it and it still ran away. I was out of arrows though..

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shani

Lol, I think I finally pushed my Wii U to its limits. ^^ After playing nonstop for ~15 hours (although my Wii U says 13 hours), it just shut off and the red power LED started blinking. I assume it just overheated, the room had gotten pretty warm and the Wii U was sitting in a rather narrow shelf... I was actually wondering if that might happen. Just letting it cool down for a few minutes and unplugging the power cable for 10 seconds did the trick. But I dusted the fan holes off, just to be sure.


Wow... just wow. After ~21 hours of playtime, I've already lived through so much, learned so many things, did some side quests, even defeated some Guardians (hint: you have to find some ruins that break the Guardian's line of sight and then go hide behind the ruins after every single hit). Despite wandering around and getting distracted from sub-task to spontaneous sub-sub-task and then forgetting what the original task was, I feel like I've seen a lot of story elements. Most NPC's have something to say about the events of the past and how it fits in with their current life.
I think I have uncovered 5 sections of the map now - two of those in a relatively short amount of time, just at the end of my session today, before I regained my first memory. Most of the time I spent exploring and especially climbing - I thought XCX was a vertical game, but MAN, you can climb so high in this game! I think part of why the game's world feels so big is because the world is not just wide but also tall and they've obviously put a lot of detailed work into that.

Tsurii wrote:

I tried fighting a Lynel today. Tried

Oh so that's what they're called? I encountered one at the end of my session when I was looking for a memory - based on your description, I think it was in a different area than your encounter - and he took all but half of a heart from me several times - I had to eat after every single hit - but eventually he got me. Not far away there was actually another foe who was really huge, but luckily he was sleeping. Not even my bombs could wake him up.

@blaisedinsd: Every Wii U user has 7-8 (IIRC) save slots.

DreamyViridi wrote:

Speaking of controls though, has anyone else here accidentally pressed the wrong buttons when trying to do something?

Yeah, happens to me all the time. It's not a problem of not remembering though, it's just that - I don't know if it's because of previous Zelda or other open world games - the buttons layout feels wrong. I want to dash with A and jump/climb with X. Every time I'm on a horse and want to attack an enemy, I accidentially hit X and jump of the horse. Every time I want to jump off the horse, I hit the horse. Don't ask me why.
I don't understand why we can't change the controls the way we want...

JaxonH wrote:

Tested Wii U version for comparison. Looks surprisingly similar, although I did notice way more jaggies (first thing I noticed actually, it's really apparent after playing Switch version), and noticeable slowdown in the grass which I didn't really experience in Switch version. I know it supposedly happens in both (just worse on Wii U) but I haven't had any problems yet on Switch while Wii U it was immediately after the game started, right there in the starting area grass. Also little details and stuff, which most probably won't pick up on unless they've played both to compare.

That's interesting, finally some post-launch comparison! I thought those slowdowns were supposed to occur in the Switch version too? Guess I'll have to get my hands on the Switch version at a retailer, because yesterday I cancelled my Switch order.

CaPPa wrote:

If you were waggling in Skyward Sword then you was doing it wrong. Most control issues with that game were down to user ineptitude, with them waving their controller around like a monkey having a seizure. Played properly it is one of the best motion games, only rivalled by perhaps Red Steel 2.

Couldn't agree more! Some people just never learned how to use a Wiimote.

GrizzlyHeart wrote:

How do I use the wii remote to play the game

You don't. It's not supported. How about just playing the game with your Gamepad? Since your Pro Controller seems to be broken or something... did you even pair it with the Wii U?

AlternateButtons wrote:

Would someone mind telling me how to get the Blue Tunic?

I don't know, but you can just dye your clothes in any color you want .

skywake wrote:

My new rule of thumb for this game is to explore and keep going in one direction or another... until you hit an enemy that one shot kills you and then you've probably gone too far.

Actually, it's not at all like in XCX or any other open world game on the other systems. The world doesn't scale regaring the enemies. With the proper equipment AND tactic, you can beat anything. The first thing I did after every of those one-shot-kill-situations was assesing what I did wrong and trying it with a different tactic and/or some food or elixir I had cooked up.
And that brings me to:

Ralizah wrote:

Wow, people weren't kidding when they said this game was hard. Feels kind of like Dark Souls. Even when fighting a group of Bokoblins, I have to survey the environment and thinks of ways to approach them that don't just involve charging in, which has invariably led to my slaughter TWICE now thanks to one of them carrying a nasty club that kills me in two hits.

I haven't played Dark Souls but - despite the the many many deaths - I wouldn't call BotW 'hard', but rather 'challenging'. As you mentioned, you have to come up with a reasoned approach, you can't just storm into enemies and expect to defeat them all. And that's what I came to love about it in these first two days.

By the way, regarding those deaths, did anyone else notice that the color of the 'Game Over' text varies depending on how you died?

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Dezzy

Ok so pretty great so far. Love the gameplay, the shrine puzzles, how much variety the world has.
So far it's just a kind of 8.5/10 game for me though. I'm not seeing this 9.8/10 yet (at about 6 hours in). But I've heard quite a few people say it does keep getting better and better as you continue, so I hope that's the case.

The main negatives so far are that this is one of the most visually inconsistent games I've ever played. It goes from looking absolutely stunning, where you don't remember how limited the hardware is because they've just worked that Nintendo magic, to areas where the Nintendo visual magic randomly disappears and it looks like a mid-tier PS2 game.

Also the frame drops. Why, oh why, did they have to be in the villages? Kakariko is just annoying as hell on the Wii U for me. Didn't even wanna explore it. That's really something that shouldn't exist. In a set location like that, you can tailor and optimise the scenery until it works. C'mon Nintendo, just remove some of the grass and give me 30fps please! For someone who loves towns and villages to explore in open world games, that seriously annoyed me.
Frame rate has been completely fine outside of that though. I get 30fps in about 98% of the wilderness so far.

jump wrote:

There's a glowing blue chipmunk thing that I've been after which disappeares, I've got no idea if I'm meant to catch or kill it.

If you manage to attack it, it drops rupees.

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Octane

I think I just found a Korok that has spend the last 100 years doing nothing but eating...

Dezzy wrote:

The main negatives so far are that this is one of the most visually inconsistent games I've ever played. It goes from looking absolutely stunning, where you don't remember how limited the hardware is because they've just worked that Nintendo magic, to areas where the Nintendo visual magic randomly disappears and it looks like a mid-tier PS2 game.

Also the frame drops. Why, oh why, did they have to be in the villages? Kakariko is just annoying as hell on the Wii U for me. Didn't even wanna explore it. That's really something that shouldn't exist. In a set location like that, you can tailor and optimise the scenery until it works. C'mon Nintendo, just remove some of the grass and give me 30fps please! For someone who loves towns and villages to explore in open world games, that seriously annoyed me.

I agree, it can be pretty inconsistent. Frame rate has been all over the place for me. Weather effects and a handful of enemies are guaranteed to drop them to 20-25 fps.

Octane

shani

There are so many things I'd like to talk about - e.g. what I'm saving my money for right now - but I don't want to spoil anything, so... did anyone buy a house?

Dezzy wrote:

Also the frame drops. Why, oh why, did they have to be in the villages? Kakariko is just annoying as hell on the Wii U for me. Didn't even wanna explore it. That's really something that shouldn't exist. In a set location like that, you can tailor and optimise the scenery until it works.

Really? Kakariko works fine for me. I had maybe one or to drops but they weren't so bad and it was when there were a lot of NPCs running around, so it's understandable (their AI is probably the most demanding thing for the CPU). The villages are exactly where I would expect the drops. And I don't think you can optimise that, unless you delete some of the NPCs and other objects.
But it was hardly noticeable in Kakariko, there were definitely worse situations, like when five or more relatively big foes attacked me and the framerate went noticeably down. Or once, there was even just one(!) enemy and for 2 seconds the game was unplayable (I'd say something around 2-5 fps).

But don't get me wrong, of course there are frame drops, no doubt about that. Maybe they're just not occuring consistently (regarding the location) from user to user? I think the weather plays a big part in this, so that could be another explanation why it's not always exactly reproducible.

It's probably not the cause for that, but how much free internal memory does your Wii U have?

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Ralizah

I love how every part of this game is designed to encourage and reward exploration. The game saves so often that death, while not meaningless, is never big deal, which means you don't have to freak out if you experiment and things go horribly wrong. Having 100+ shrines in lieu of more large dungeons means that you're constantly pushing out into the world and finding new things. Also, the minimalist narrative really works for this game, as it does, more than any other Zelda, feel like you're on an epic quest to save an entire world.

While the game's performance limitations are apparent if you focus on every dropped frame or stare at rock textures, it still is the most enchanting experience I've probably ever played. Something about the combination of swirling clouds, swaying grass, and the gentle, unobtrusive music that plays as I push into the hills creates a magical mood for me.

Only thing I will say I am disappointed by is the limited memory in this game world. I remember setting up a trap with three explosive barrels and luring some enemies back to it. Only, by the time I got back to where I had positioned the barrels, two of them were gone. There have been a few moments where the game's apparent inability to remember changes the player makes to its world has destroyed my immersion. Worst aspect of the game by far, and, as far as I am concerned, a very unfortunate limitation. Nothing gamebreaking, though.

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gcunit

Yet again the rest of the world seems obsessed with frame rate... and I haven't noticed a single drop.

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Grumblevolcano

I like how you can load a save that's not the most recent one. Although I haven't had to use it there was this time when I was playing a Splinter Cell game, the game reached a checkpoint moments before I got killed so restarting the last checkpoint was literally watching myself get killed over and over again hence having to restart the whole mission. Something like that won't ever happen in BotW because you can reload any of the past 10 autosaves.

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Dezzy

shani wrote:

The villages are exactly where I would expect the drops. And I don't think you can optimise that, unless you delete some of the NPCs and other objects.

You just answered your own question! Of course you can optimise it. Remove 2 or 3 people from the village. Remove one of the houses. Cut the amount of grass by 50%.
Any of those would be acceptable to me for the sake of consistent 30fps. As for you not noticing it in Kakariko, are you the Switch? As that video points out, the frame drops are in completely different places on the Wii U and Switch versions.

Also, I just noticed, there's realtime ambient occlusion running at all times! 1 line of code could turn that off during areas where they know there's predictable framedrops. That would give you 30fps easily.

shani wrote:

It's probably not the cause for that, but how much free internal memory does your Wii U have?

On the hard drive? It's nearly full. Why would that affect anything?

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I have the Switch version and I've played for about 10 hours. I believe I only had about two notable frame rate drops that lasted for a second or two. So my experience has been pretty minimal with it.

Anyways, I'm having a blast with the game. Has anyone managed to defeat the coliseum monster?

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OorWullie

Unbelievable stuff.It's been giving me goosebumps at parts and this (hard to explain) feeling inside me that I don't think I've felt since playing Shenmue on the Dreamcast.I could probably count on one hand the amount of games that has given me this yet it feels strangely familiar at the same time.

Wish I could explain it better but I can't think how to.

Anyway,just got my paraglider and I'm about to head off the plateau for the first time.More goosebumps and that funny feeling on the way

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Octane

I'm impressed by the NPCs, they walk around and it seems like they're genuinely going somewhere, or doing something. Even the NPCs in the villages, sometimes they're off and doing something else. It really adds to the immersion I think, makes the place a lot more believable than when the NPCs are just standing around.

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