Topic: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

I believe they're mostly just characters that started as actual alternate costumes, but then they decided to give their own personal flairs.

For example, Peach and Daisy. They're identical, mechanically speaking. But having Daisy be a separate character means she has her own visual effects, taunts, and victory animations.

Compare that with Bowser Jr, who has 8 entirely different people as costumes, but they all share the exact same animations and effects. So their individual personalities are not entirely there.

@Bankaj if you don’t see any added value of echo fighters why did you say it’s a missed opportunity that there aren’t any more echo fighters?

The people that say Steve doesn't fit in, have never heard of game and watch 😒

@Eel Not to mention that there are also characters like Richter who've appeared in their own set of games completely adjunct from the fighter they're based on and they have their own visual discrepancies

I'm still annoyed that the holy water isn't green for Richter like in Rondo of Blood though.

Okay, at September 30th nintendolife made a Vote to guess which character will be revealed at October 1st where you can choose 3 options from a lot of them. I chose Leon from Resident Evil, Dante from Devil May Cry and wanted to choose Doom guy from Doom, but I chose Steve from Minecraft instead. And my really young brother guessed Steve too. And looks like my third option and my brother's guess was right. Damn, that was unexpected.

So my guesses for the rest right now are:

-Travis Touchdown
-Crash Bandicoot
-An 8th gen Pokemon
-Geno

A good mix of realistic and hopeful choices. But at this point, it could be Sub Zero or a Ys character I wouldn't be shocked by either.

@jump The lack of added value is my perception of the use of Echo Fighters in current form. Eel's comment sounds reasonable, but in the end I feel that this concept should've developed further or, at least, more distinguished. Today it feels not thought through and they just threw a label on these fighters for the purpose of calming down the fanbase, before they start arguing about "wasted slots" and whatnot.

Is it just me or am I the only person who is very disapointed with the Fighter Pass vol 2?
Min Min? who?
Steve from Minecraft? About 10 years too late.

Whats next? Q*bert? (actually that would be kinda funny)

Hah. Steve is now on the big banner art on the smash bros site, just casually digging out of the stage.

imagine thinking Minecraft isn't still more popular than the vast majority of Nintendo games

(this is like when people said Pokemon Go was dead between news stories of it still making an impossible amount of money)

Honestly I'm thrilled despite not really playing Minecraft (and even the few Minecraft Let's Plays I watched were like 6+ years ago). Because if anything can make Smash Bros somehow even bigger, its probably Minecraft.

It’s funny because if you think about it, like half of the fighters in this game come from dead and/or (now) irrelevant franchises.

Depending on your views on Minecraft, that either makes Steve a perfect fit, or painfully ironic.

@Bunkerneath nah, Min Min is great. Arms is a Nintendo brand, very successful and is a fighting game, and also an arena fighting game which is a genre that’s not represented in Smash.

@Northwind Thank you, that link is incredibly useful and answers most of my questions. Interesting read so far, which I'll have to finish later (Friday still isn't considered weekend yet).

My feelings towards Steve are starting to shift. Yesterday, I only felt disappointment. Disappointment because Steve is the very first character being added to Smash I feel no affinity towards whatsoever.

However, I understand why he means so lot to a lot of people and why it makes perfect sense he's being added to Smash. He represents the best selling video game of all time. That in and of itself justifies him being in Smash. I also analyzed the little gameplay footage we've seen of him so far and I have to admit he looks a lot of fun to play as. His moveset seems very unique and he has the potential to change up the meta quite a bit.

He might not be who I wanted but hey, there're still 4 places left for some of my favorites to make the cut, right?

My rankings for how excited I was on announcement

1. Banjo
2. Byleth
3. Joker
4. Min Min
5. Hero
6. Terry
7. Steve

@Rexenoboy I understand that sentiment

Admittedly I actually have no sentiment towards Banjo at all but the Hero reveal evened out the E3 announcements for me given I like Dragon Quest way more. Banjo is the one DLC character so far that I just couldn't care less about

I am very nostalgic for Minecraft though, and a game the scale of Ultimate omitting Minecraft representation would actually kind of not make sense at all given its position as a celebration of gaming as a whole

Rankings for Smash DLC reveals

1. Joker
2. Steve
3. Terry
4. Hero
5. Byleth
6. Min Min
7. Banjo

@Rexenoboy I agree I’ve been seeing the light more today, but I’ll only be playing as Alex and Zombie. Steve just creeps me out for some reason, I just hate his design. I’m not even talking about the blockyness of him, just the colors and stupid facial expression weird me out😂

Rankings huh?

1. Banjo
2. Joker
3. Min Min
4. Hero
5. Terry
6. Steve
7. Byleth

Reflecting on it, Byleth is the only one that still truly disappointed me. I don't even find the character fun to play as, we have a ton of FE already, and I'd rather have seen any of the three house leaders join than the mute protagonist for a third time in a row. Or Anna. Or Lyn. Like, yeah, Byleth is probably around 30-40 at best on my list of wanted FE characters so...

On announcement, my rankings were:
1. Banjo
2. Byleth
3. Min Min
4. Hero
5. Joker
6. Terry
7. Steve

But the DQXIS demo changed my mind on Hero back when you needed to play the DQXIS demo or full game to unlock the Tockles spirit so currently my rankings are:
1. Banjo
2. Byleth
3. Hero
4. Min Min
5. Joker
6. Terry
7. Steve