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SKTTR

Scores so far:

20pts. Chibi-Robo (Chibi-Robo!) 10 +5 +5
17pts. Elma (Xenoblade Chronicles X) +6 +1 10
15pts. Rex & Pyra/Mythra (Xenoblade Chronicles 2) +5 10
8pts. Isaac (Golden Sun) +1 +2 +5
7pts. Saki Amamiya (Sin and Punishment) +6 +1
7pts. Dixie Kong (Donkey Kong) +2 +5
6pts. Starfy (The Legendary Starfy) +1 +5
6pts. Takamaru (The Mysterious Murasame Castle) +1 +5
5pts. Cranky Kong (Donkey Kong) +5
5pts. Toad (Super Mario) +5
4pts. Kyle Hyde (Hotel Dusk) +1 +3
3pts. Alexandra Roivas (Eternal Darkness) +3
3pts. Jill (Drill Dozer) +3
3pts. John Raimi (Geist) +3
2pts. Dillon (Dillon's Rolling Western) +2
2pts. Porky (EarthBound) +2
1pt. Andy (Advance Wars) +1
1pt. Geno (Super Mario RPG) +1
1pt. Kamek (Yoshi) +1
1pt. Mallo (Pullblox) +1
1pt. Midna (The Legend of Zelda) +1
1pt. Ricky Winterborn (1080° / Wave Race) +1
1pt. Waluigi (Super Mario) +1
0pts. Skull Kid (The Legend of Zelda)
0pts. Krystal (Starfox Adventures)
0pts. Impa (The Legend of Zelda)
0pts. Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby)
0pts. Tingle (The Legend of Zelda)
0pts. Pauline (Super Mario)
0pts. Black Shadow (F-ZERO)
0pts. Shy Guy (Super Mario)
0pts. Chorus Kids (Rhythm Paradise)
0pts. Funky Kong (Donkey Kong)
0pts. Birdo (Super Mario)
0pts. K. K. Slider (Animal Crossing)
0pts. Octoling (Splatoon)
0pts. Spring Man (ARMS)

Participants: Grumblevolcano, link3710, SKTTR, StephanDLW

@link3710 I kinda want to replay Geist, or at least return to it to collect the last couple of hidden spirit thingys that I missed, and yeah, I still need to finish off the last boss. I'm kind of ashamed I haven't beaten that game. I guess it was just more fun exploring the adventure levels for secrets instead of blasting through the last fps stretch. Nah, I remember the rocket throwing flying wheelchair man, he was freaking difficult!
I wish some games back then would have been ported to the next console, especially when the next console was a very succesful Wii. Sure, Twilight Princess, Pikmin, Pikmin 2, Mario Power Tennis, Donkey Kong Jungle Beat, Metroid Prime, Metroid Prime 2, and Chibi-Robo (unfortunately only in Japan) got the Gamecube to Wii treatment. But man, Geist would have been one that like Metroid Prime 1&2 would have benefitted the most from both the huge audience and new controls. It's unfortunate that Geist was no success.

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Switch fc: 6705-1518-0990

RR529

Rex/Pyra +10
Takamaru +5
Toad (Captain) +5
Chibi-Robo +5
Midna +3
Starfy +2

Currently Playing:
Switch - Blade Strangers
PS4 - Kingdom Hearts III, Tetris Effect (VR)

Grumblevolcano

@SKTTR It's a shame they didn't go particularly further even after the Wii. All we got after those ports were Zelda HD remasters for Wii U (Wind Waker, Twilight Princess), most of the Wii ports of GC games given digital downloads on Wii U (no Mario Power Tennis or Chibi-Robo) and Luigi's Mansion got a 3DS remaster.

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Grumblevolcano

Harmonie

Do I have to give all of my thirty points? I'll do this, if not:

Isaac +10

Harmonie

link3710

@SKTTR Geist actually did manage to have a port mostly made for the original DS, but unfortunately the developer went under before it could be released. Unfortunately, with the team who was passionate behind it gone and Nintendo in it's most anti 'games for gamers' phase, it didn't stand a chance. And honestly yeah, I've never technically finished it either (pretty sure I was basically at the end) but it's a game thats stuck with me ever since.

link3710

SKTTR

Harmonie wrote:

Do I have to give all of my thirty points? I'll do this, if not:

Isaac +10

No, you don't have to spend it all, but I'd prefer if you do. You certainly have some mercy points to give away. After all, I spent a mercy point on Isaac as well.

link3710 wrote:

@SKTTR Geist actually did manage to have a port mostly made for the original DS, but unfortunately the developer went under before it could be released. Unfortunately, with the team who was passionate behind it gone and Nintendo in it's most anti 'games for gamers' phase, it didn't stand a chance. And honestly yeah, I've never technically finished it either (pretty sure I was basically at the end) but it's a game thats stuck with me ever since.

Um.. from what I know, the Geist team (n-Space) existed until 2015, that's 10 years after the release of Geist. Apparently a port to the DS just wasn't feasible, as the game was already struggling with the framerate on Gamecube at times. Apart from the technical hurdle, Nintendo would be the ones to greenlight a downgraded DS or 3DS port, but they didn't. And they shouldn't. They should have made it a Wii port with motion controls, or drop the Gamecube version altogether to make it an exclusive Wii launch title instead. Same for Chibi-Robo and the other late and totally overlooked Gamecube hidden gems. They did it before, with the N64 versions of Starfox Adventures, Resident Evil Zero and Eternal Darkness. They cancelled them and brought them to Gamecube, all for the best.

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Switch fc: 6705-1518-0990

Namco

Edelgard +9
Skull Kid +8
Paper Mario +7
Octoling +6

I'm rooting for these, I hope you don't mind adding Edelgard and Paper Mario to the list.

A piece of the Triforce appeared before you! (>'.')> Touch it now!

SKTTR

@Edelgard

Ah, you're one of those. It was either you or the Pokémanz!

Let's see. There are 7 Fire Emblem fighters in Smash. So, let me ask you a couple of questions: Can't you ever get enough? Don't you know that you automatically get a new fighter each iteration of Smash anyway? Do you think your favourite series is still underepresented in Smash and needs more representation despite there being top class series having not even one fighter and struggling for years to get recognition?

I'm just kidding. She's perfectly eligible.

Let's see how she fares, along with Skull Kid, Mario no. 4, and Inkling echo.

Switch fc: 6705-1518-0990

Namco

@SKTTR
But... but... she has an axe? o_o

Is what I would say if you were serious

Nah, I wouldn't make a huge argument if anyone were to say that other franchises are more deserving of representation. However I don't like it when people make up rules telling us which character we should and shouldn't want. Justifying their own personal wants. It's one of the reasons why I can accept Piranha Plant being in Smash, it shows us characters are not only chosen for their importance / representation. Keeps us open-minded.

Edelgard is just awesome, get on board people ^_^

A piece of the Triforce appeared before you! (>'.')> Touch it now!

SKTTR

@Edelgard I already have my all-time favourite Fire Emblem fighter in the game. It's Ike. I was rooting for him back in the Gamecube days as Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance is one of my favourite games of all time, and I was brought to tears when he arrived in Wii's Brawl. He's one of my mains.

Piranha Plant is important. This character is the world record holder for its number of appearances in video and computer games! There's no other character that's coming close, not even Mario. When the question is asked ''Which character appeared most in separate game releases?'' the correct answer is Piranha Plant.
And so, Piranha Plant is the lowkey superstar that wriggled into most games subconsciously. Fact is, no other game character had appeared in that many games. There are just too many of them, leave it to Guiness to count them.

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Arbor

+10 skull kid, +10 midna, +10 impa. easy. although personally i am a strong advocate for TOON ZELDA. we have link, young link, and toon link, but only one zelda? not fair.

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Arbor

SKTTR

1st PARTY Smash Ballot - Scores so far:

35pts. Rex & Pyra/Mythra (Xenoblade Chronicles 2) +5 10 10 10
28pts. Isaac (Golden Sun) +1 +2 +5 10 10
28pts. Skull Kid (The Legend of Zelda) +8 10 10
27pts. Elma (Xenoblade Chronicles X) +6 +1 10 10
25pts. Chibi-Robo (Chibi-Robo!) 10 +5 +5 +5
24pts. Midna (The Legend of Zelda) +1 10 +3 10
20pts. Impa (The Legend of Zelda) 10 10
11pts. Takamaru (The Mysterious Murasame Castle) +1 +5 +5
10pts. K. K. Slider (Animal Crossing) 10
10pts. Toad (Super Mario) +5 +5
9pts. Edelgard (Fire Emblem) +9
8pts. Starfy (The Legendary Starfy) +1 +5 +2
7pts. Dixie Kong (Donkey Kong) +2 +5
7pts. Paper Mario (Paper Mario) +7
7pts. Saki Amamiya (Sin and Punishment) +6 +1
6pts. Octoling (Splatoon) +6
5pts. Cranky Kong (Donkey Kong) +5
4pts. Kyle Hyde (Hotel Dusk) +1 +3
3pts. Alexandra Roivas (Eternal Darkness) +3
3pts. Jill (Drill Dozer) +3
3pts. John Raimi (Geist) +3
2pts. Dillon (Dillon's Rolling Western) +2
2pts. Porky (EarthBound) +2
1pt. Andy (Advance Wars) +1
1pt. Geno (Super Mario RPG) +1
1pt. Kamek (Yoshi) +1
1pt. Mallo (Pullblox) +1
1pt. Ricky Winterborn (1080° / Wave Race) +1
1pt. Waluigi (Super Mario) +1
0pts. Ashley & Red (WarioWare)
0pts. Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby)
0pts. Birdo (Super Mario)
0pts. Black Shadow (F-ZERO)
0pts. Chorus Kids / Karate Joe (Rhythm Paradise)
0pts. Funky Kong (Donkey Kong)
0pts. Jumpin' Jim Rivers (Excitebike)
0pts. Krystal (Starfox Adventures)
0pts. Oceana Louvier (Endless Ocean)
0pts. Pauline (Super Mario)
0pts. Shy Guy (Super Mario)
0pts. Spring Man / Ribbon Girl (ARMS)
0pts. Tingle (The Legend of Zelda)

Participants 11: Arbor, DarthNocturnal, Edelgard, Grumblevolcano, Harmonie, link3710, Nat, Nofina, RR529, SKTTR, StephanDLW

These are the 2 PM's I got:
Nat: Rex +10, Skull Kid +10, K.K. Slider +10
Nofina: Elma +10, Impa +10, Midna +10

20 points left for: DarthNocturnal, Harmonie

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Switch fc: 6705-1518-0990

Diddy64

Dixie Kong +10
Cranky Kong +10
Funky Kong +10

Sorry for posting my vote after the posting of scores. I was uncertain about divide and put more characters or just vote for three characters.

Undergoing games:
Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity

Dogorilla

+5 Spring Man / Ribbon Girl (though I'd prefer Dr Coyle)
+5 Paper Mario
+5 Dixie Kong
+5 Midna
+5 Waluigi
+5 Funky Kong (as a DK echo)

Thank you Nintendo for giving us Donkey Kong Jr Math on Nintendo Music

SKTTR

1st Party SMASH BALLOT - Scores so far:

35pts. Rex & Pyra/Mythra (Xenoblade Chronicles 2) +5 10 10 10
29pts. Midna (The Legend of Zelda) +1 10 +3 10 +5
28pts. Isaac (Golden Sun) +1 +2 +5 10 10
28pts. Skull Kid (The Legend of Zelda) +8 10 10
27pts. Elma (Xenoblade Chronicles X) +6 +1 10 10
25pts. Chibi-Robo (Chibi-Robo!) 10 +5 +5 +5
22pts. Dixie Kong (Donkey Kong) +2 +5 10 +5
20pts. Impa (The Legend of Zelda) 10 10
15pts. Cranky Kong (Donkey Kong) +5 10
15pts. Funky Kong (Donkey Kong) 10 +5
12pts. Paper Mario (Paper Mario) +7 +5
11pts. Takamaru (The Mysterious Murasame Castle) +1 +5 +5
10pts. K. K. Slider (Animal Crossing) 10
10pts. Toad (Super Mario) +5 +5
9pts. Edelgard (Fire Emblem) +9
8pts. Starfy (The Legendary Starfy) +1 +5 +2
7pts. Saki Amamiya (Sin and Punishment) +6 +1
6pts. Octoling (Splatoon) +6
6pts. Waluigi (Super Mario) +1 +5
5pts. Spring Man / Ribbon Girl (ARMS) +5
4pts. Kyle Hyde (Hotel Dusk) +1 +3
3pts. Alexandra Roivas (Eternal Darkness) +3
3pts. Jill (Drill Dozer) +3
3pts. John Raimi (Geist) +3
2pts. Dillon (Dillon's Rolling Western) +2
2pts. Porky (EarthBound) +2
1pt. Andy (Advance Wars) +1
1pt. Geno (Super Mario RPG) +1
1pt. Kamek (Yoshi) +1
1pt. Mallo (Pullblox) +1
1pt. Ricky Winterborn (1080° / Wave Race) +1
0pts. Ashley & Red (WarioWare)
0pts. Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby)
0pts. Birdo (Super Mario)
0pts. Black Shadow (F-ZERO)
0pts. Chorus Kids / Karate Joe (Rhythm Paradise)
0pts. Jumpin' Jim Rivers (Excitebike)
0pts. Krystal (Starfox Adventures)
0pts. Oceana Louvier (Endless Ocean)
0pts. Pauline (Super Mario)
0pts. Shy Guy (Super Mario)
0pts. Tingle (The Legend of Zelda)

13 Participants: Arbor, DarthNocturnal, Diddy64, Dogorilla, Edelgard, Grumblevolcano, Harmonie, link3710, Nat, Nofina, RR529, SKTTR, StephanDLW

20 points left for: DarthNocturnal, Harmonie

@DarthNocturnal, Monster Hunter is a Capcom 3rd Party, I wouldn't allow it here as he's still got a chance to be in the DLC. (Geno is the only special case coming directly from a Mario game). Giygas is considered to be Porky's Final Smash, so maybe you should spend some points on that one.

@Diddy64 It's fine. Sometimes it's better to wait and strategically distribute your points.

@Dogorilla It's safe to assume that Sakurai always starts out with the most popular face of a franchise or the playable main character before getting into recognizable sidekicks, villains, etc. There's little to no chance that someone other than Spring Man / Ribbon Girl would be the first character of the ARMS franchise to be represented in Smash, even though Twintelle and others have a huge fanbase as well.

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Dogorilla

SKTTR wrote:

@Dogorilla It's safe to assume that Sakurai always starts out with the most popular face of a franchise or the playable main character before getting into recognizable sidekicks, villains, etc. There's little to no chance that someone other than Spring Man / Ribbon Girl would be the first character of the ARMS franchise to be represented in Smash, even though Twintelle and others have a huge fanbase as well.

Yep that makes sense, I wouldn't realistically expect Dr Coyle to get in over Spring Man, I just think she's a much more interesting character and has some unique abilities.

Thank you Nintendo for giving us Donkey Kong Jr Math on Nintendo Music

DarkSim01

What makes this tough is the assist trophy aspect. I don't want to include them, but some of my favorites got relegated to assist trophies.

+7 Waluigi (Super Mario)
+5 Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby)
+5 Geno (Super Mario RPG)
+4 Impa (The Legend of Zelda)
+4 Skull Kid (The Legend of Zelda)
+2 Takamaru (The Mysterious Murasame Castle)
+2 Rex & Pyra/Mythra (Xenoblade Chronicles 2)
+1 Black Shadow (F-ZERO)

As for a few others, replace the characters that upgraded from assist trophy to fighters with new assist trophies. A Karate Joe, Chorus Kids or Chibi-Robo assist trophy could be cool.

I was also considering Porky pretty strongly, but I would prefer his boss fight from Brawl be added in a Boss Rush mode (I know it won't happen, but I can dream).

DarkSim01

link3710

Boss Rush was my favorite mode in Brawl, by far. I can't believe it wasn't included in Ultimate, considering the ease that there should be in implementing such a mode. The biggest thing would be designing a rest area, but I'd be fine with them reusing the one from All-Star.

link3710

DarkSim01

@link3710 I was hoping for a Boss All Star mode so much. Imagine a full run of all of the bosses from the entire series:

Master Hand
Crazy Hand
Giga Bowser
Petey Piranha
Rayquaza
Porky
Galleom
Duon
Rathalos
Marx
Dracula
Ganon
Tabuu
Master Core
Galeem
Dharkon

Throw in a a couple of break spots with some heart containers or something. It's a shame we don't have it, because it would be incredibly fun.

DarkSim01

link3710

@DarkSim01 Given the rumors that there's one more single player mode, I'm hoping that's what it is. Most of the bosses are already in the game, though the biggest issue I see is that Ridley / Meta Ridley have since become a character, and I don't think they want to show full size Ridley next to him. Still, almost every boss is already in Smash Ultimate, so it's possible at least.

link3710

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