Topic: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

5.0 is Live

The addition of Terry probably has most North American casuals scratching their heads. SNK isn't nearly as well known of a company as Sony or MS. But in Asia and South America? I guarantee the SNK collaboration just sold a whole bunch of Switches, copies of Smash, and fighter passes.

@Magician Yeah. I know who he is cuz I played some KoF, but wasn’t aware the franchise was that big. But to me it’s still a new character to try out and maybe enjoy. It’s not like there isn’t something for everyone already.
Banjo is fun, I’ve already used him more than I did Hero and Joker. And that music hits me in my nostalgia.

So I wonder if the next DLC season will be completely third party (like this challenger's pack assuming the fifth character is also third party), completely first party characters or a mix of both.

Not gonna lie, Terry Bogard was the SNK character I was hoping for, so I'm excited.

I'm really hoping the newly announced DLC includes Howard and Sword Legion. Astral Chain's been in development more than long enough for it to feasibly be included, and it's gone over as well as Xenoblade did (though not at Splatoon levels of course). I think it'll be all first party since we haven't gotten any first party DLC yet, so ARMS and Astral Chain are natural picks. Sakurai did imply they'd all be new IPs though so... might be just 3rd party still.

Sounded to me like another 3rd Party Fighters Pass with at least 5 more characters.
That means, Assist Trophies, Spirits, and Costumes are still not eligible.
Poor Chibi-Robo, Saki, Elma, Geno, Isaac, Waluigi, Bomberman, Bandana Waddle Dee, Dixie Kong, and Shadow fans, I feel with you.

Though there's always a chance that Nintendo will drop another 1st party character like Piranha-Plant, or just completely change the rules, but Sakurai did not hint about such a thing. He probably will give some more information when the 5th Fighters Pass character is revealed.

I have a strong feeling that the 5th character from the current Fighters Pass is one from BANDAI NAMCO. This ist the second Smash game they developed, and they still have only PAC-MAN in Smash, whereas Capcom, Konami, and Sega have 3 characters already!

BANDAI NAMCO owns one of the most popular fighting games (Tekken) and one of the best fighting games (Soul Calibur). And they also develop the excellent and popular 'Tales of' JRPG series. Long-time favourite and Wii U costume Lloyd Irving can get an invitation now that the JRPG-behemoth Dragon Quest is out of the way.

So for now, chances got even higher for brandnew 3rd party characters.

My picks:
1. Professor Layton (I love his games and his character. The series has strong ties to Nintendo. Please have him as the LEVEL-5 rep and not Yokai Watch!)
2. Travis Touchdown (Tone him down just a bit and let him in. He just has to crossover with Bayonetta. Dream match!) 10/10
3. Marina Liteyears (Because Treasure reps Saki Amamiya and Isa Jo are out of the equation. Well, I think Mischief Makers is Treasure's best game ever anyway.) 10/10
4. Crono (for many the best RPG ever. I hope it's not too soon for Square Enix's 3rd character. A Mana rep would also be huge!) 10/10
5. DOOM Marine (One of the monumental games that go into history + strong ties and respect to Nintendo since the very beginning.) 10/10

Also, I love Phoenix Wright, and to an extent Monster Hunter, Resident Evil, and Okami as well, but since Capcom has 3 characters already (and Ken is still pretty new) I wanna let other 3rd partys have a chance to keep up.

If there's a 2nd pass (rather than DLC just being individual), my guesses would be:

• Master Chief (promo for Halo Infinite)
• Crash
• a Tekken character
• Doomguy
• Sora (if the Kingdom Hearts franchise comes to Switch)/Crono (if the Kingdom Hearts franchise doesn't come to Switch)

If Nintendo are feeling generous, perhaps include the new fighers on the existing pass. Doubt they will, and it'll be a nice pass (which i honestly don't mind paying)

i wonder if the 2nd DLC pass will be about 1st party characters this time around? i would love to see ARMS and other newer IPS from Nintendo appear in Super Smash Bros Ultimate.

I gotta admit I was a bit sad to see Nakoruru (and Mamahaha) miss the invitation but I'm glad they were still part of the trailer. Makes it seem like they at least considered having her. Terry is a good choice. Seems like he's relatively not well known nowadays. At least based on the reactions I've seen.

Had a quick test run with Banjo. Played through Classic Mode. Not much to say yet. I'll have to play more to know if I like them or not. Bought the Sans costume too. Mainly for the music. I don't use Mii Fighters. Not that I don't like them but they cannot be selected by random and I always play with a random character.

I 100% believe that the 5th fighter is Ryu Hayabusa.

As for a second pass, my guesses would be:

• Doomguy
• Travis Touchdown
• Crash
• Heihachi
• Dante from the Devil May Cry series™

As much as I can't imagine almost anyone in the west being disappointed with Doomguy getting in, Japan would probably feel the way a lot of people here do about Terry. So he'd have to come in the middle of the next package, if anywhere.

Anyways, I guess I'll throw out my predictions for character 5 + the next 5(?). It should be about as accurate as my guesses for the first pass (I had Slime instead of the Hero, that was the closest I've gotten so far).

5. Lloyd Irving (Tales / Bandai-Namco)
6. Agumon (Digimon / Bandai-Namco)
7. Monster Hunter (Monster Hunter / Capcom)
8. Doomguy (Doom / Bethesda)
9. Ryu Hayubasa (Ninja Gaiden / Koei Tecmo)
10. Sora (Kingdom Hearts / Square Enix)

Still hoping Howard + Sword Legion gets in, but that seems highly unlikely. I'd love to see King (Tekken), and Seong Mi-na (Soul) but... not gonna happen at all sadly. Dante (Devil May Cry) stands a chance of showing up instead of Monster Hunter, but not a great one. Pitting him versus Bayonetta would be amazing though.

I'd be pretty disappointed if Doomguy got in. His series is obviously an important one but it's not one I have much interest in, and the character himself seems pretty dull to me. Just a generic macho man with a gun. I'm hoping the second DLC wave is first and second party characters but I'm not sure how likely that is since pretty much every major Nintendo character already has a spirit, if not an assist trophy. Professor Layton doesn't though so there's still a shred of hope for him to get in.

@Dogorilla I don't see why having a spirit would stop anyone from being considered for the second wave of DLC?

All I want is Shantae in Smash.

After that, they can fill the rest of their slots with other obscure fighting game characters, for all I care.

@link3710 I guess it wouldn't necessarily stop them from getting in, but every fighter in the game has a fighter spirit (which doesn't actually do anything as far as I know), so it wouldn't really make sense for a character to have both a fighter spirit and a normal spirit (unless the normal spirit represented a different version of the character, like how there are multiple Link spirits). I don't know, it's not a massive deal so Nintendo could still come up with a way around that if they want to, but to me it seems like they wouldn't add anyone who already has a spirit. Although having said all that, I just realised that Lucas already had a trophy in SSB4 before being added as DLC, so maybe I'm overthinking it.

@Dogorilla They also are going to run out of space on the stage select since it was designed to perfectly fit 5 DLC stages, so it's not the only thing they'll have to work around.

If the second fighter pass is first-party characters, and assuming spirits don't de-confirm a character but assist trophies do, these are my predictions:
Impa - there hasn't been a new Zelda character in Smash since Brawl, and that was a clone, so Impa seems like a solid choice for a new one
Bandana Dee - I don't know much about this character but a lot of people seem to want him and Sakurai loves Kirby
Geno - to be honest I think he seems a little obscure seeing as his only major appearance in a game was over twenty years ago, but he's been requested for years and a lot of popular characters from the ballot were added in Ultimate so I could definitely see him getting in now
Spring Man - I'd rather have a more interesting Arms character but SM seems to be the face of the franchise
Astral Chain person - I'm not sure about this one, it's probably too recent, but Astral Chain is a major new release and there was talk of it possibly becoming a trilogy, so representation in Smash would make sense

I think they could do some interesting things with Arthur from super ghouls n ghosts as a character. It’s a long running series with nostalgia value for us old timers. Also his double jump would give him unique aerial manoevering. And think of all the different Weapons he uses being assigned to the B moves! Just please don’t give us the graveyard as his stage with the endlessly spawning zombies s stage hazards...arghhhhh