Topic: No "New Super Mario Bros game?"

I'm not saying I wouldn't like a 3D World port, but it could by no means be the replacement for NSMB. Gameplay wise and visually it's just so different from an actual 2D-Mario... An actual 2D Mario in the 'classic' style, would only consist of certain 2D gameplay mechanics.

I wouldn't mind seeing another NSMB title come. My only thing is, instead of using the same level design themes and basic sense and progression the other titles provided, maybe try to shake things up. Perhaps world themes that focus on more specified and localized locations. Oh, and PLEASE, a difficulty spike that occurs much earlier than a special world of challenge levels.

This thread would be more accurately titled "No new 'New Super Mario Bros.' game?"

Not really... We're debating both a new 'NSMB' as a port of the existing 'NSMB's

Doesn't mean it is a bad game - in my opinion it is much better and more interesting than Sunshine or Odyssey - even though I love Odyssey and completed it 100 % . Galaxy 2 was quite similar to 3D World as it was broken down to an overview map with selectable levels.

They should make a new Super Mario Bros game, but not like New Super Mario Bros - newer! ..the new Super Mario Bros game could be called New New Super Mario Bros!

I’d love a new game in this series. Some of my best gaming has happened on the Wii and WiiU versions. My wife and I played them again and again she’s a very casual gamer so it’s perfect for her. We would 100% them and then 2-3 times a week have an hour or two where we took turns picking random levels. We played the Wii version so much we got to where we could memorize which squares were Bowser squares and item squares on the item mini game. For me it’s up there with Animal Crossing as something I want to see at E3 this year

@toiletduck No, keeping the level design identical to the way they were originally is more important than featuring a simultaneous multiplayer mode.

@Bass_X0 what are you referring to?

I'm expecting a port of NSMBU this Christmas. Chuck in the Luigi U DLC and maybe some extra levels (they could crib a few from Mario Maker if they felt cheap. Which they probably will) and extra characters and that would be a big seller.

Imho that way it wouldn't be a substitute for the 'New' series. The accessible local co-op is an essential ingredient to the series for me. Then again, that is just my opinion.

I'd love to see them do a really high quality hand drawn 2D mario game. Something on par with Rayman Legends. That's probably the best looking 2D game in existence. Be nice if Nintendo challenged it.
It would be the easiest way of providing something that Mario Maker couldn't provide.

@Bolt_Strike
Tropical Freeze is four years old and still has more imagination than Odyssey, in my opinion. Not sure what you are looking for in a 2D game, but Tropical Freeze is the best, most well-made platformer since Yoshi’s Island on SNES. It has the perfect difficulty, tons of imagination, and more thought put into one area than most 3D platformers. I think the problem is people who are younger, like you, don’t understand 2D platformers. It’s sad. Other than throwing your hat at enemies, what else has Super Mario Odyssey done that distinguishes itself from, let’s say, Super Mario 64? Sorry dude, I’ll take Tropical Freeze and other 2D games like it over 3D platformers any day. And what is a “level pack?” You mean, levels in a game? Because that’s the whole point in platformers. If you want big in-depth stories, play something else. You have a very warped way of looking at games and I don’t think you really know what you’re talking about.

@Androyd34 It's about having new abilities to work with. Tropical Freeze is working with the same moveset as every other DK game ever. Jump, roll, throw, handslap. There's only so much that can be done with those actions to keep things interesting. Mario's capture mechanic in Odyssey is more than DK has ever done to distinguish itself from other games ever. You use it to enhance Mario's platforming abilities. You use it to interact with level gimmicks. And of course, you use it to Capture enemies to enhance Mario's repertoire even further. Far more than Tropical Freeze or any other DK game has ever done which just solely relies on level gimmicks to distinguish itself from other games. And it's just not enough. That's what I mean by level pack. At its core all it is is the same gameplay but new levels. And we can always get this through DLC for $20 nowadays, that's not enough to really make a game feel new. New games need to actually build on the gameplay mechanics in some way, and DK and most other 2D platformers simply fail to do that and therefore feel repetitive and boring. There's a reason the "rehash" label is getting thrown around for games like NSMB and the modern Kirby games. Tropical Freeze is in a similar situation. The only difference is there hasn't been 4 DK games in the DKCR/Tropical Freeze line yet.

So you're saying a compilation title of past Mario games with new modern graphics should feature unrecognisable completely changed stages to accommodate a feature introduced many years later?

No. I'm saying I'd prefer local co-op over the other features. If they're somehow able to incorporate those mechanics in old Mario games, I'd be happy. Seems unlikely though.

Why not they do a 2D Mario and Sonic game.It might be good or end up being the worst mess ever and it can have a hub world like super mario world.

@andrew20 gameplay mechanics aren't exactly similar or complementary, so I don't expect that to happen. But who knows!

Teal deer: NSMB series is awesome, original, and has plenty of unique features with each instalment of the game. All this talk of it being old hat just comes across as negativity for negativity’s sake. I’m sure Cappy would agree with me. After all, he is a new hat!

I’ll be honest, I completely disagree that the NEW SMB series has done “very little” to contribute to the Mario saga. Ever since the first NSMB DS game, have been updates in gameplay mechanics (wall jump, triple jump, ground pound, midair twirl, etc), there have been exciting and original power-ups (propellor suit, penguin suit, gold mario from NSMB2 - the latter is a personal favourite and I’d love to see this included in a big screen Mario game). The greatly improved graphics and gameplay mechanics of the series have made the game more accessible and fun, and each game has implemented unique features specific to which console they were released on (NSMB for DS used both screens, Wii version used the motion controls, Wii U version used the game pad for additional gameplay modes and features, plus let’s not forget Mario Maker which couldn’t exist without a touchscreen console - I realise that this example isn’t a NSMB game as such, but it’s in the 2D canon for sure). I really don’t understand why any Mario/Nintendo fan would criticise these games negatively. They’re absolutely awesome. Mario Run is also a little piece of genius and I for one cannot wait to see a NSMB title on Switch. My ongoing hopeful Google searches for just that are what brought me here! I believe that a 2D Mario game for Switch will do what the others have done - be the fun, familiar Mario platform game but with a bunch of cool new moves, power-ups, and gameplay techniques which showcase and utilise the unique mechanics of the console’s engine and controllers. And since the joycons are absolutely incredible pieces of technology, I can’t wait to see what Nintendo have up their sleeve. This one’s going to be awesome 😎