Topic: Monster Hunter Rise

@Mii_duck
Be glad you didn't get into the series when I did with Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate. Rise is much easier to get into than World, which was way, way waaaay easier to get into than MHGU/MH4U, which was easier to get into than MH3U.

It's complex, yes. A lot to learn, for sure. But it is worth it. Once it clicks, it clicks. And when that happens, it immediately becomes a whole new game where suddenly you don't feel how you felt before. Whereas before you felt movement slow and sluggish, suddenly you're astounded at how fast and fluid it is. Whereas before you were confused, suddenly you know what you need to do and you're excited to do it. You can't even understand how you didn't see the game through this new lense from the start. It's like an "aha!" moment.

Investing in the series was the best decision I ever made as a gamer. The return on investment has been well over 2,000 hrs spanning half a dozen games across 5 platforms, each and every one of them being my "new favorite game of all time" after playing them. So each game offers hundreds of hours of THE highest quality fun I've ever experienced. Like playing the best game ever made, over and over again with each new entry.

I wouldn't be anywhere near as fanatical about this series if it wasn't that good. But it really is. It's so good. Games like this achieve that level of greatness specifically due to the complexity. The more you learn and invest the greater the reward as a result. And so, the complexity and high barrier of entry, despite being its greatest weakeness, ironically becomes Monster Hunter's greatest strength as well. What you get out is proportional to what you put in. It's a much higher initial investment but the payoff is unrivaled.

I do advise hunting with a friend if possible though, as you learn the ropes. When I bought MH3U curious about the series on Wii U, I gave up after an hour having seen nothing but endless dialog and text boxes and no action, barring gathering mushrooms and herbs on a few Quests.

It was only when my Xbox loving co-worker said he was buying a Wii U just to play MH that my interest became piqued. Why would someone who doesn't even like Nintendo much buy their most unpopular console ever unless the game was that good? So I hunted online with him, and the adrenaline rush was so intense I was hooked before the night was over.

Each night Hunting with him he'd have a new armor set, Super snazzy and stylish, and I'd be jealous- hey, where'd you get that? Oh ya know, after we played last night I hunted a Great Jaggi and made his armor. Well I want a set too! So we'd farm me a set.

Next night I'd join the lobby feeling all good about my Jaggi armor, and he'd have NEW armor, slick new Qurupeco armor. Wait, I want one too! So he'd help me farm a Qurupeco set. Next night he has Great Ludroth armor. And so on and so forth.

It became an addictive fashion competition trying to keep up with him. And I still remember the genuine fear I felt when I encountered my first unexpected "dragon" on a hunt (Rathian) We tried taking it on but failed. And I remember the terror of my first Deviljho encounter. All my fried said was, "Dude... RUN!!!"

It may be complex but you don't have to learn it overnight. Just play and have fun and learn as you go. Watch tutorials as you become curious and interested in things. You'll eventually get there. Part of the fun of MH is figuring it all out. Even now with all the wikis there's still rumor and Hunter myths unproven about "petting the poogie before a hunt increasing rare drop rates" and the like. The unknown is part of the allure.

@JaxonH I agree with you on that, You need to get used to the flavor of each dish, Then man, It hits so damn hard.

@Pizzamorg I also agree with this, MH is one of those games were its you like it, or you don't.

Has anyone else completely lost interest in the PC version of rise since it was announced it won't be crossplay/ save I keep seeing all these posts about Raytracing & stuff coming to pc rise but I couldn't careless anymore as I can't crossplay/ save and I was going to be buying me and my fiancée a copy but we will stick to switch I suppose

@JaxonH Hah, amazing tale! I started with MH3U. One night a friend just called me, saying:

"MH3U is on sale at the 3DS eShop. It's an amazing game. Buy it!!" and I did. Starting was pretty rough, but I managed to feel the game playing by myself. Then vacation time was over, and I would play local co-op with the same friend between University courses. Man, we always had a blast!!

Playing local multiplayer games with my friends on 3DS is actually one of my fondest memories of my University years.

I'm loving all these stories of how you all got into the game it's a shame my origin story was me being sexually harassed by a monster hunter community member which is why I now refuse to play online with randoms

@Jrpglover Oh no, I'm so sorry to hear that, If you want to ever do hunts, You can ask us, I'm open most of the time.

World was ended the first MH game I played, But Its so funny, That was so long ago, and Now I noticed, I sucked back then, My armor, was crap, I never had beat a quest without Help, My Hunter was not the best looking, And don't get my started on my weapon of choice.

Then Rise happened, then I had to get back into it, I dropped the LS (Which I still know how to use) and the GS, and when't on to play the CB, then Ice born was on sale, And around that same time I made the vow to myself, I was to complete every quest in these game, First, then online with people, the proof that I was actually good at the games.

Just want to thank everyone here for making My MH Job Possible, For all the help and support that I got on here, And thats the story on how I became a hunter. (Also I dropped GS bc its waay to easy to kill Monster for me LOL)

Now, that was funny.

On the way to the Monster I was hunting I ran past another type, and didn't realise it had followed me across a quarter of the map. So I get to the beastie I wanted, draw my weapons... and it's being attacked by the Monster that followed me. Made me chuckle.
Ended up Silkbinding and riding the Monster I was hunting (no idea how, I wasn't even attempting
to).

@JaxonH - I've been watching some of the tutorials, tried the Switch Axe, but am staying with Dual Blades for now. Using them more skillfully now though, rather than button mashing. Enjoying going all Demon mode on the monster's bottoms.

Edit: I know it's a huge part of the game, but the online hunts with others doesn't appeal to me. I game for escapism, not to have to deal with real people.

Needed a bit of Google to understand the weapon/armour upgrade/forging tree but getting there. Like all similar games it takes a while for familiarity with the mechanics to become instinctive.

Enjoying it (only about six hours in) but not grabbed yet. Different mindset I guess, to games I love like Kingdoms of Amalur, Dragon's Dogma, Skyrim, Witcher 3, DQ11 etc where fighting monsters or bosses is something you do along the storyline, whereas here the Monster is the aim.
Always enjoyed the progression in those games as you upgrade and become more powerful, so I'm expecting MHR to eventually grab me too.

Interesting though, that I enjoyed any amount of murder, mayhem and "f*cking sh*t up" in Saints Row, but feel slightly guilty about attacking monsters just minding their business.
I'm not even vegetarian or have ever hugged a tree.

Pretty much, yeah. I just don't think a game made for the Switch benefits from going to PC truly, unless they completely rebuilt the game. The low res visuals on the Switch are a little disappointing, especially since it is running in a lower resolution than most Switch games and is then upscaled digitally instead. But man, seeing the textures in a higher resolution, isn't exactly worth the full price tag. Had Rise had as poor performance as some other titles do, the 60 fps might have made Rise worth it on PC, but Rise seems very stable on Switch even if it might not even be 30 fps.

All of this makes the PC version pretty much redundant, as far as I am concerned. They might have got around this either by selling it at a reduced price (especially since the big expansion is coming pretty soon after it drops on PC, and I am sure some cheaper overall "Complete Edition" won't be too far behind) or if you could at least port across your character and pick up where you left off. But I ain't paying full price to start the game all over again.

Maybe I would have done it anyway if I had any friends who were interested in either playing this again on PC or picking it up for the first time, but my main mate I play games with took one look at those Rise PC controls and pretty much peaced out right there and then.

@Mii_duck Online isn't a big part of the game, A lot of people do it on there own, for the most part I just do it to make weapon grinding faster.

Oh finally, decent hair. Well I may have to dig out my cartridge.

@Pizzamorg Rise sticks to 30fps pretty consistently on Switch, which is impressive after how stuttery World was on last-gen home consoles.

It is funny seeing the same small toxic minority of MH "fans" crying about the new Guild Cross gear. I really hate how people have warped what Monster Hunter is. It isn't a Souls game where difficulty is it's entire thing and I am honestly really glad Capcom isn't accommodating even slightly to those who demand otherwise. You want a Souls game? ***** off back there then. Why is it that those who like hard games just think it's fine to just go to every franchise and demand it be as hard as possible to accommodate for them? But if you ask for an easy mode in a game everyone talks about "the integrity of the art" or some bollocks.

@Pizzamorg I have a feeling the small bit, are all the new players just complaining the game doesn't change for them.

Love the new profile pic BTW.

This isn't about new players asking for changes to them, it is just Capcom giving people an easier time to get to end game. It doesn't really remove the skill element at all - maybe the set in World was a little overtuned - but the Rise set seems more balanced, and really just softens that curve a bit for a slightly gentler introduction. There is literally zero reason to have complaints, but that toxic mini-set are all crying about "the integrity of the game" or some bollocks. Like you don't want to use it? Then don't use it. Someone else choosing to use it doesn't hurt you at all.

Also - we must all bow down to our Mothman overlord.

I'm starting MH GU, wish me luck, also, is there like a quest marker thing? To help tell me were to go with the Collection quest?

@Pizzamorg I was actually saying this a few months back, I 100% agree with you, Just, don't use it if its sucks an issue. You don't even have to, unlike Icebornes Clutch claw.

@Pizzamorg I think people nowadays even have a warped image of what a Souls game is. Souls and Monster Hunter always had two things in common; a large emphasis on boss battles and pattern recognition and also no cancel animations.

Dark Souls is such a different game from Monster Hunter in every other aspect. It's supposed to be one big JRPG where you travel through a map in a Metroid-like fashion and Monster Hunter has always been about the hunt and solely about the hunt - it's even in the name. Dark Souls was never even intended to be difficult and going back to each Soulsborne game I honestly don't even find them hard at all.

I think what changed in the past years is that games actually became insanely easy. It's become so rare to see the "Game Over" screen on most games on the Normal setting. To get any form of challenge or involve your brain in critical thinking you'll have to set most modern games to "Hard" and the Souls series (as well as Monster Hunter) do not have that feature. The games are inherently designed for the player to figure the challenge out and prepare for it/approach it accordingly.

We are seeing a resurgence of harder games nowadays because suddenly developers aren't pressured into making their game for each and every type of player. That being said, from my experience with World and Rise I feel Rise is a much harder game thanks to the added speed and movement capabilities. Monster Hunter World seems a lot more basic with what it's asking of the player and the monsters themselves are much less aggressive.

I have no idea why everybody is shouting at Rise for these changes in difficulty when the really big change came with World. Also, as I said before the difficulty of Monster Hunter is designed in such a way that you, the player, are dictating how difficult to make the hunt for yourself. You could go hunt your first Rathalos with beginner armour and a strong weapon because you haven't bothered crafting any armour up until this point or you could sit and grind out the previous fights for hours to make yourself a literal walking tank that would take Rathalos 10-15 full frontal hits to take you out.

I like to challenge myself in Rise by trying out different weapons. It's something I also do in the Nioh games which make it incredibly more fun and challenging for me. Souls, unfortunately, is a lot more limited with how many weapons you can realistically try out in a playthrough thanks to the limited number of weapon upgrades. I think anybody who complains about the difficulty of the Monster Hunter series going lower are doing so because they've been playing the one weapon for the past 4 iterations. Yes, put me in a new fight using a long sword and I will take some hits to adjust and learn the patterns. Put me into a new fight using a gunlance and I will probably cop the loss.

Also I heard prowlers Don't lose items when collecting, so should I play them when looking for things? and are the prowlers like something I should only use in multiplayer? or can I use them to beat the game?

I actually think Rise is a lot easier than World. Monsters just don't seem to hit as hard and the wirebug mechanic makes it easier for me to avoid damage and keep the pressure on. In that regard, it is my favourite MH game by far.