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VoidofLight

For me, I just stick to the Dual Blades. Easiest weapon to learn in my opinion, and it's fast as hell. If you learn the right combos, you can do some pretty good damage as well.

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Pizzamorg

Snatcher wrote:

@Pizzamorg And I 100% agree with you, I don't want to gate keep, but I do want people to know how to play the weapon, most people who pick this weapon up, never go after the tails, making them a burden to there team, Thats all I'm saying, other then that I think the weapon is amazing and even I mained it at some point.

Positioning is a pretty universal bugbear throughout. People who swing weapons in crowds, smashing people aside, people pushing me away from the head when using a slicing weapon not a blunt weapon, all that kinda crap. It isn't unique to the LS, just new or bad players.

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Snatcher

@Pizzamorg True, But I do feel that LS players do it the most well, bc there new LOL.

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JaxonH

Gonna drop this definitive beginners guide here. It's long. But if someone really wants to crack this nut, this video should position them well to succeed.

There are shorter videos from others, so I'll link a few of those also.

Gaijin Hunter Beginners Guide

Arrekz Basics Guide

Arrekz Beginners Guide

Fightin Cowboy Beginner Guide

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Snatcher

@JaxonH Is there one for getting into Monster hunter gen, after paying world/rise, bc my god Its a hard Transition.

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JaxonH

@Snatcher
I’m sure there is.

But really, it’s just learning the differences at the end of the day. Most of the differences were just being one connected map and faster gathering. Combat might not feel quite as smooth but it’s largely the same, crafting is largely the same, the loop is the same, etc.

So I don’t really think it takes a video to get into it, I think it just takes playing it and adjusting to the differences. Once you acclimate to the movement and the hit boxes, it’s the same MH you know and love.

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JaxonH

@Snatcher
Also, this is a must.

MHGU DB app

Key Quests aren't specified. You can check a wiki, or just use this app for easy reference to which Quests are key, and which Quests are requisite to unlock hidden key Quests.

Also does a WHOLE LOT more. But that's the primary benefit.

Click the link from your Android phone to go grab the app.

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Also, download all the DLC from main menu, then claim it from your housekeeper. Insane amount of item packs helps negate the early game gathering grind, as older MH games required an "early game gathering grind buildup" for materials to get you going. You'll still want to gather somewhat regularly but the DLC makes it much more tolerable.

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Snatcher

@PoliticallyIncorrect World is my first, why do you ask?

@JaxonH Thanks, Seems simple enough. I didn't know about the dlc tho, so thanks for that as well. Is the CB any different from World to this? I know savage Axe isn't a thing but anything else I should be aware of?

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PoliticallyIncorrect

@Snatcher Just asking because of your comment about going on to play Generations. Monster Hunter was much more involved/complicated before World. There will be more grinding. You'll need to mark your monsters with a paintball to know their location, and much more. There are so many things they should bring back to Monster Hunter imo. Especially the paintballs. It made it more like hunting.

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JaxonH

@Snatcher
Very similar. Aside from Savage Axe and the sliding side slash its basically 1:1.

Just keep in mind, styles alter your playstyle. I'd avoid alchemy, and while Valor is brilliant, it was added in GU to spice up the gameplay for those who'd already played Generations, meaning, it's more advanced and risk reward based. Save for G rank or late game play. Aerial is fun and good for mounts but eh, not my pick. I'd go with either Guild (generic play style with no changes), Striker (attack based with 3 art slots) or, my personal pick, Adept style. Adept is boss. It lets you evade with a generous window, and triggers an auto run which can be followed up with an attack for big damage. Just be careful with double attacks- may find yourself running straight into the follow up. For those I run away and use it as a double evade (dodge, then use run to reposition out of danger quickly).

Adept will alter your move set slightly but not anywhere near as much as Valor will. It's worth it for the evasion. Which also frees your skills up to focus on other non-evasion skills.

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JaxonH

@Snatcher
I copied this response from a reddit post explaining a bit about how to properly play Adept Charge Blade

2) For sword mode, after an adept guard you have two options. You can press X to charge your shield with the phials you have. This gives you red shield that boosts your axe moves in terms of damage and ko/element depending on which type of phial you are using. Charging your shield this way is quicker than going into axe mode, starting up AED (with X+A), and cancelling it with R. You can also press A after adept guard to immediately go into the double slash so you can get your phials quickly.

For axe mode, after an adept evade you have two options after you go into a run. Press X to get an overhead slam. Press A to go into the double horizontal swings that uses your phials.

You end up using both depending on the situation. At the beginning, you are looking to get your phials and charge your shield. Once you have your phials and red shield, you use axe mode for heavy damage. Red shield also increase your guarding capabilities in sword mode. Once you run out of phials, you get more. Basically with charge blade in general, you are constantly switching between sword and axe mode.

3) You play adept charge blade aggressively as this style allows you stay near the enemy. Charge blade generally requires timing and good positioning. Adept guards require you to be precise with timing. I should also mention that you try to adept guard after a successful adept guard if you need to block a multi hitting attack. With adept evades, you should be aware of your position like which direction you roll, which direction you run after the adept evade, etc.

You don't have to adept guard/evade to unlock bonuses (which in this case would be getting your phials and charging your shield). You use the adept guard/evade when they are most beneficial to you like when a monster roars or you really need to block/evade an attack. The adept guard/evade are additional ways you can block/avoid attacks and punish the monster afterwards. Normal ways are guard points which are points in a transformation animation where you can block and continue the transformation.

4) Charge blade in general requires you to get your phials and unleash powerful axe attacks when you have them. Adept Style gives you more ways to accomplish that quickly. It can be tough but it's pretty rewarding when you get it down. I recommend practicing against a monster you know how to hunt first

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Snatcher

@JaxonH Oh ok so you can charge the Axe in this game, Thanks! Oh ya the styles, I haven't started the game yet so I can still pick one, Adept it is, I can change it later right? And the style's, they change how the weapon works? Does this mean I will kinda have to re-learn the CB, or it just comes by playing around with it?

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Snatcher

@PoliticallyIncorrect Lets just hope I don't screw myself over by forgetting to bring those, I Don't think they need to make it any more simple, MH right now is perfect for newcomers, and I don't want it to be so easy its boring, I think the way the games are now, are just fun, as games should be.

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JaxonH

@Snatcher
Ya like I said, weapons are 95% the same (barring Hunting Horn which was drastically altered in Rise).

And yes, you can change styles at will between Quests just like you would swap swap talisman or weapon. You can swap arts, none of it is a commitment. Can try all if you want, but I'd just go with Adept.

And it doesn't really "add" moves, it simply restricts some. More advantageous styles such as Valor are so powerful, the offset to balance it is some restricted moves you can no longer access. It's a trade off. Adept has minimal tradeoff but it does have some. Might have like, one move missing or something. Or maybe not. It may just be fewer art slots. Either way it's not a big impact on move set like some others are.

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Snatcher

@JaxonH Oh ok, Thanks you have been really helpful.

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Mii_duck

I'm starting to think I've had less complicated careers than this game!

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Pizzamorg

Mii_duck wrote:

I'm starting to think I've had less complicated careers than this game!

Being real with you, I have grown to love Monster Hunter, but I also don't blame anyone who bounces right off of the games. I played some of the games in the past, could never really get into them. World was the first one I was really into, I put hundreds upon hundreds of hours into that game across console, PC and then the Iceborne release. But for real, it took me maybe 60 hours of smashing my head against the wall before the game clicked for me. And like I hate hard games with no difficulty options, too.

I'll be honest, if I wasn't playing with a friend who loved the franchise so much, I wouldn't have every suffered for as long as I did through clunky ass combat, convoluted combos and infuriatingly overtuned battles. But I dunno, one day it just all clicked, I didn't feel this way any more and I didn't look back.

In the end I wouldn't necessarily say it was still all worth it, I got hundreds of hours of enjoyment in the end, but I had to put more investment into that to get there than I've really done with anything and that just suggests to me poor design than anything else.

I thought Rise was a much easier transition, but I guess that is just more because I already cut my teeth with World. I can see all the ways in which Rise makes things easier, streamlines the experience etc but World was apparently an extensive streamliner over previous titles too, so I am sure vets probably had an easier time with World than I did etc

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