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IceClimbers

Honestly hoping the reveal isn't another "lifestyle" commercial like trailer. That worked brilliantly for Switch 1 because they needed to showcase the hybrid form factor and the system's versatility. If they do that again for Switch 2 it'll just look like people playing on Switches, and then you're in Wii U territory.

A trailer that's in a similar style to that fake Smell-O Vision trailer would be better, as they could then highlight that it's a new generation and show what's different compared to the original Switch

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Bolt_Strike

I am also in disbelief that Nintendo would announce the Switch 2 the day DKCR HD would release, but I could see the release coming the week after. My birthday is the 21st and that doesn't have anything major as far as I know, plz Nintendo?

But seriously, sometime next week would be a good time.

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Bolt_Strike

IceClimbers wrote:

This idea that Nintendo is doing the software reveal later is interesting, as it implies that 3rd parties will likely still be restricted from revealing their Switch 2 games until said showcase/Direct, despite the hardware being revealed.
Also not sure how to feel about the idea that Mario Kart is the big new launch title and that 3D Mario isn't coming until the holidays. I feel like not having a big new single player game at launch could backfire, especially if Prime 4 also isn't ready for launch (or is Switch 1 only and no native Switch 2 version).

I feel like as long as they do what they did and show snippets of launch games playing it'd be fine if they don't give us full software reveals. Even just knowing we've got big IPs coming like 3D Mario or Mario Kart, especially if they can show them off in different looking gameplay segments, would be enough to get the hype train rolling and then they can go into more detail later.

I fully expect 3D Mario to be a later release, especially with how ambitious it supposedly will be (we've seen multiple rumors claiming it's going to be open world and with Bowser's Fury already dipping its toe in that direction it's hard to see them not doing that). That's okay, because Mario Kart is huge anyway and should get a lot of early momentum. If that's the end all be all then yeah, maybe that might hurt a little, but not even that much I feel because those are two of Nintendo's biggest and best selling IPs, so that makes a great one-two punch like what BotW and Mario Odyssey were for the Switch 1's launch year and should be big reasons to get a Switch 2 early. But I definitely do not expect them to be the only major games for the first year, just the two biggest tentpole releases.

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GrailUK

Once they reveal the console, will third parties be allowed to announce games for it? Regardless of if they showed off any games or no.

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skywake

The current rumour mill is a hardware reveal on the 16th of Jan and a deeper presentation either next week or in Feb

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FragRed

@skywake I really hope this reveal allows third party publishers to finally open the floodgates on what they have in the pipeline for the Switch 2, even if Nintendo doesn’t officially say anything software wise.

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PikminMarioKirby

@skywake With Nate and supposedly Pyoro thinking the 16th, I think this is possible. Kind of odd timing since there's a 1st party release that day.

I thought the rumors were that a bigger presentation would happen late February or early March? Who said next week?

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skywake

It's certainly odd that they're overlapping DKCRHD. They did the same thing with Mario Party for the NX reveal but still, surely sub-optimal. Perhaps the "bringing stuff forward due to leaks" bit was true? Untestable, but maybe

Retrospective theory, I guess one advantage of having a game release on announcement week is you can spend all the time leading up to it ignoring the elephant in the room

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skywake

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I just got up and the original stuff is buried in pages of discussion as you'd expect. You're probably right it's not next week. It's just hard to parse the actual rumours from the discussion ATM

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GrailUK

@skywake Not odd. They are still making a game a month. I mean, out of the ones we know so far, I reckon a re-release of a re-release is probably the one to shout over. Besides, it's January. I don't think it's expected to sell a dozen million right away, more likely a slow burning ever green type deal.

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MrCarlos46

skywake wrote:

Perhaps the "bringing stuff forward due to leaks" bit was true? Untestable, but maybe

We’ll have to see if Nintendo says something about a Switch 2 reveal on Wednesday.

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skywake

Another observation. A few pages ago when I was saying the next two weeks were also possible it was suggested that wouldn't work because there's an XBox presentation next week and usually Sony has a PS presentation at the end of Jan. What if Nintendo isn't trying to avoid these by coming out this week. What if instead they're trying to get out ahead of the XBox Direct

Why would they do that? Well, with Switch 2 hardware announced MS games can now be announced for Switch 2. The XBox Direct is going to be worth watching I think

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FishyS

Imagine if the only Switch 2 gameplay they showed in the trailer was Donkey Kong Country Returns HD.

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PikminMarioKirby

@skywake That's fair. I could be wrong as well, it might depend on the source.

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GrailUK

@FishyS ha! That would be some serious marketing for the game lol. I do hope if they aren't showing any games, they at least have some sort of E3 style tech demo running.

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skywake

FishyS wrote:

Imagine if the only Switch 2 gameplay they showed in the trailer was Donkey Kong Country Returns HD.

The reveal trailer is just a trailer for DKCR HD which ends with the logo. Then they throw a U before the HD, show the Switch 2 logo, put up a date

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Keman

It will 100% not be revealed this week.

They has been wrong for every week since earl 2024, they just repeats it for every week until they hits the right spot on the donkey while being blindfolded.

There were so many times when "everyone" chimed on something and then getting wrong, this will happen again.
No Nintendo won't reveal it during the next week either. They'll reveal it in the last minute. There're a reason why they announced "We'll reveal it during this finical year", that so they can reveal it in the last day then.

It's amazingly by how many can still trust all those attention seekers, even if they gets wrong for 88 times of 100, since just having 1 right of 100 tries appears to be good enough for the majority.

They has been so wrong for every times since 2018 (Switch Pro + "Switch 2"), yet the faith for them are unbroken is really scary... Some has zero standards...

Good luck then with when all of you realizes that it won't be a reveal during this week. Still many of you will still stubbornly clinging on those mantras "tomorrow!" or "next week!" and ignoring the fact of that they got wrong for 986356214023th time.

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Bigmanfan

@Ulysses Wait, that's actually such a good point. I never even thought about a super bowl ad, but it makes sense.

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Bolt_Strike

Keman wrote:

It will 100% not be revealed this week.
They has been wrong for every week since earl 2024, they just repeats it for every week until they hits the right spot on the donkey while being blindfolded.

There were so many times when "everyone" chimed on something and then getting wrong, this will happen again.
No Nintendo won't reveal it during the next week either. They'll reveal it in the last minute. There're a reason why they announced "We'll reveal it during this finical year", that so they can reveal it in the last day then.

It's amazingly by how many can still trust all those attention seekers, even if they gets wrong for 88 times of 100, since just having 1 right of 100 tries appears to be good enough for the majority.

They has been so wrong for every times since 2018 (Switch Pro + "Switch 2"), yet the faith for them are unbroken is really scary... Some has zero standards...

Good luck then with when all of you realizes that it won't be a reveal during this week. Still many of you will still stubbornly clinging on those mantras "tomorrow!" or "next week!" and ignoring the fact of that they got wrong for 986356214023th time.

I think you're being a tad too pessimistic here. I don't think they specifically want to wait until the very last minute here, they know that a prolonged period of no news is bad for their momentum, and if they were planning on waiting until the end of March from the very beginning I don't think they would've said this fiscal year, they would've just said 2025 from the beginning. What I think the issue is is that they weren't entirely sure themselves when it would be ready to show off (I think by now they are, but at the times they gave statements on it they weren't). There's been rumors that the release date was internally delayed because they couldn't get the launch games ready and there's also been rumors that one of those launch games is an open world 3D Mario. I'm inclined to believe both of those are true because of what they've actually done in the past, they typically have delayed major games multiple times and it makes sense that they'd have a 3D Mario at launch because they usually do, and it being open world would make sense because they experimented with open world Mario gameplay in Bowser's Fury. And put these both together... things start to line up a bit more about what they're doing right now. Open world games have notoriously lengthy development times. Look at BotW and TotK, those games each took 6 years to make and suffered multiple delays as well. This 3D Mario game could be a large part of what's holding things up, they want it ready at or close to launch because it's a AAA game in their flagship IP, so I could see them wanting to delay the Switch 2 launch until it's ready (and possibly a few other games as well, but I'm guessing 3D Mario is the main drag here). They've been trying to get it ready and get the Switch 2 out, but they keep needing to push it back, so they can't really give us a specific estimate as to when yet. This is probably why they said this fiscal year, maybe it would be ready to show in 2024, maybe it would need until 2025, they gave themselves a wide window to account for that uncertainty. This isn't intentional, Nintendo knows that once they open their mouth they're going to get publicity and momentum, and they don't want to wait that out forever. This is just worst case scenario because of the difficulties in developing in the modern, AAA gaming space.

That being said, by now I think they're certain of when they're going to be ready. It's very telling that they reconfirmed the fiscal year. That says they're confident it's going to be by March 31, if they weren't they'd probably say 2025 and give themselves more slack for the possibility that we could be waiting even longer. They're probably relatively confident in their dates by now. As for now vs. March 31, they may have preferred to wait until later, but the issue is that they've lost control of the narrative now and they need to regain it. So much of the Switch 2 has been leaked that simply waiting it out could harm their momentum and they might actually want to move it up to sometime in the next few weeks. So I don't buy Thursday for sure, but I could buy that it's happening soon. Whatever the case, there's 78 days left in the fiscal year. You could be just as wrong as they could, so I don't like the arrogance you're displaying here of "yup, it's for sure going to be revealed on March 31".

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