Topic: Switch 2 Talk

Every "youtubers" + "insiders" & co has been so 100% dead wrong about everything surrounding "Switch Pro" and "Switch 2" since 2018.

Nintendo will announce it when they thinks that the time is right. The state of the world is so pitifully horrible right now, so everything can happen now. Nintendo won't announce and release "Switch 2" if the state of the world gets considerably worser before they were going to announce it.

I still believes in may-sep for the launch if now nothing horrible happens until then. The announcement may happening later than excepted. I'm now unsure if Nintendo is going to announce it during jan-25. I have a feeling that Switch may getting its first ever price cut shortly after the announcement, so late feb to late march is my guess, for to angering those who recently bought a Switch during the holiday-24.

Also there're zero pattern. This situation is so vastly different from the Wii U situation when Switch got announced. Wii U was already dead after the summer 2015, it only got a meaningful bigger release in Xenoblade X between late summer 2015 to march 2017 when BOTW came out. Nintendo is absolutely in no hurry for releasing "Switch 2" actually, since Switch still sells extremely well for being in its 8th year. PS2 were nowhere near of Switch's sale in its 8th year.

It's just my own guessing and feeling, don't get it as a fact, not everything on internet is the truth. Too many trusts in everything now.

Define "everything". What you have to realise that a lot of the YouTuber content is just people parroting what essentially amounts to posts no different from yours and citing it as news. "Insider Keman reports that Switch is delayed until September due to the state of the world right now". That sort of thing

But just because stuff like that is happening doesn't mean "everything" is "100%" wrong. There's plenty of stuff about the Switch 2 that I think we can be fairly confident has been leaked and is accurate. Notably its components and the volumes in which they're being shipped. I'd also note that people sleuthing the firmware confirmed that backwards compatibility was a thing before that was officially announced. It's foolish to dismiss everything just as much as it is to believe everything

This is just waffle. Nintendo aren't going to delay Switch 2 indefinitely because of the state of the world or fears that they'll upset the people who just got Switch. The world won't magically get better and there will always be someone who's upset because they just got a Switch

Also, if you're the kind of person who's buying a Switch now and is unaware that there might be a Switch 2 on the way..... I don't think you're also the kind of person who would notice the Switch 2 announcement and be upset about it. And in any case, to be blunt, what is that person going to do about it? Buy a Switch 2 out of spite? As brutal as that transaction could be at its worst I don't see how it is a negative for Nintendo. What'd be worse is if people choose to pick up a Steam Deck or choose to wait for the now rumoured portable Playstation while Nintendo is sitting on their hands indefinitely

You could've said the same about the GameBoy just before the GBA launched. The best selling platform of all time is "selling extremely well". What a shock. That's not a reason to just not ever release something new. It's a reason to extend the generation out, which they certainly have done, but it's not a reason to extend it indefinitely

As it stands Nintendo has already ramped down production of the Switch. They've said as much in their financial reports both in their sales forecasts and in their reporting of their rate of production of Switch units. Quite separately they have reported a significant ramp up in inventory which does not align with their projections for Switch. Meanwhile they have already confirmed an official announcement of new hardware before the end of March next year

If there was any more smoke you'd die of asphyxiation

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Now that's the winner!

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That ain't bad either! LOL.

Imagine if Nintendo used FrostyFest to decide when to reveal Switch 2 with the theme being "When would you reveal the Switch successor?". Shiver being Team January, Frye being Team February, Big Man being Team March. Team colours would be the same as FrostyFest 2024.

And then watch Big Man take the victory again, leaving Nintendo to reveal the Super Switch at the end of March

So now there are 2 possible release outcomes:

1. January reveal + showcase with a March release
2. January reveal and a March/April showcase for a May/June release

@MrCarlos46
ATM I'm leaning towards a late January traditional press conference style showcase reveal. Then a February/March general Direct that outlines more games, content and features across Switch and Switch 2 (DS or GC on VC? How BC behaves? Enhancement patches?). Followed by a late April launch

@skywake Maybe the press conference reveal could also show the official name, because recently I switched from calling the Switch successor “Switch 2” to “Super Switch”

And it looks as if Super Nintendo Switch is what they end up calling it, unless they decide on Nintendo Switch 2

Some accessories are starting to appear.......
https://detail.1688.com/offer/849232562050.html

At first glance the product page seems odd because a lot of the photoshopped images show the original Switch and talk about compatibility with the Switch. And that logo is possibly mocked up also, almost surely mocked up. But note the dimensions

Logo not final

And if they do use the “Super Nintendo Switch” name, it can be a great opportunity for them to bring back the SNES colors for the console, or at least the Joy-Cons. This time, instead of making 2 separate variants for the US and Japan/Europe, I decided how about combine colors from both variants for all regions. The shells are grey, with the L/R and ZL/ZR and release buttons being black. The + and - buttons, as well as the Capture and HOME buttons are dark grey (as well as the extra button on the R Joy-Con, not sure if it’s an extra Capture button). The D-Pad buttons on the L Joy-Con use the purple and lavender colors from the US SNES from the US SNES and the ABXY buttons on the R Joy-Con use the colors from the Japanese/European SNES.

@skywake What do you think are the chances of Switch 2 having a PS5 Pro style problem where some games run worse on Switch 2 than Switch 1? At the moment from what I've read, it feels like PS5 Pro is a public beta test for PS6.

@Grumblevolcano
It should be fine I think assuming NVidia has helped write a decent translation layer for GPU calls. The code running on the CPU should be just straight up runnable as if you had a Switch with a monstrous overclock

Might there be some games that encounter issues with this? No doubt. I wouldn't be surprised if some bugs or glitches get exposed when you run some games without the restrictions of Switch. And even when they're objectively better some might prefer the original for purely subjective reasons. Like how that massive slowdown in Kirby's Adventure at some points is in some sense part of the game

But generally I think this will be one of the very few cases of backwards compatibility where playing on the new hardware is overall significantly better

Maybe for Super Switch they can use the colors from both SNES versions rather than just one of them. Maybe this time they can use the colors from both SNES versions rather than just one of them. The D-Pad buttons on the L Joy-Con use the purple and lavender colors from the US SNES and the ABXY buttons on the R Joy-Con use the colors from the Japanese/European SNES.

It came to me since it’s gonna be a worldwide release (and of course be region-free), and it might also go off for if someone wanted to get the other region’s variant. So, why not have both color schemes for all regions.

This report says that Switch 2/Super Switch mass production is already underway: https://universonintendo.com/nintendo-switch-2-resultados-fin...

If true, then there could actually only be a 2-3 month release window after the reveal

@skywake With the exception of Scarlet/Violet, Switch 1 games running exactly the same on Switch 2 like DS games on 3DS or Wii games on Wii U would be good enough for me. Running better would just be a bonus.

But Switch 1 games running worse on Switch 2 would make me less likely to pick up Switch 2 early in its lifespan. Sure I'd miss out on Switch 2 only stuff like 3D Mario and Mario Kart but I'm so spoiled for choice for Switch 1 games that if you're right about Switch 2's launch timing, I wouldn't be playing 3D Mario at launch anyway because of Switch 1 games.

@Grumblevolcano
I'll put it this way. I would argue that the DS wasn't as good at playing GBA games as the GBA was. The screen resolutions didn't align and when you (manually) set it to perfect scaling the GBA image was bigger. DS to 3DS was a similar deal. Native hardware, not so great scaling

I expect that Switch backwards compatibility on Switch 2 will be, overall, a better experience than GBA on DS and DS on 3DS. Even if there are some random games that for some reason don't play nicely with having extra performance available to them. Or maybe some random graphics calls that don't quite translate correctly. Or possibly again scaling inexactness due to it being maybe 1080p vs 720p. I don't think it'll be worse than playing DS on the 3DS

Along with that mass production announcement, news about a Switch 2 event for May also came: https://wccftech.com/nintendo-switch-2-event-may-june-release/

@MrCarlos46 It's worth noting that that article is just referencing Nate's podcast chatter. He has previously said that if he ever does gain any insider knowledge about Switch 2 dates he will not disclose the information. And he often discusses rumours without claiming they are true. Nate has previously talked about rumoured dates which turned out to be false so this is nothing particularly new, whether true or false.

@FishyS @MrCarlos46
It's also just a fairly "middle of the road" opinion on how this thing will play out. Even on these pages. At this stage I think it's fair to say that the most extremely optimistic opinion is something like a Games Award announcement for a launch in March or something. At the other end of the scale there are some talking about an announcement towards the end of March for a launch in September or so

So when someone summarising the "chatter" on a podcast comes out and says the belief amongst studios is for a Jan/Feb announcement for a May/Jun launch? I mean, I must admit I'm not super opposed to that view given I've been saying for a bit now April/May launch. But also..... it's very might straight down the line and would just straight up be a fairly accurate description of the discussion on sites such as this

Doesn't make it wrong, it just means that game devs and forum goers both have a bell curve of opinion on when this thing will come out and both have a median that sits around the same spot