Topic: Star Wars Outlaws

@kkslider5552000 I honestly think it says a lot that people are chomping at the bits to buy a digital-only, poor looking "miracle port" of a by-the-numbers Ubisoft game that got lukewarm reception when it originally launched, and that slightly tepid temperature only because it's got the big ol' Star Wars brand on it. Fools and their money etc.

I have only played a few hours too and it's too early for me to know for sure if that's the case also with this new SW game, but it wouldn't be the first time that I find a step learning curve before the real fun starts. I think that it deserves some patience in order to see how it unfolds.

Yes, how awful that people like a game even though you don't like it. They should immediately stop enjoying it because some critic or some random person on the internet says so.

@Polvasti I'm not telling anyone in particular not to enjoy it. I am making a generalizing remark to make a point, even if obviously not everyone who buys this game is a fool.

@OmnitronVariant Then what is the point you're trying to make? Yes, the game is digital-only, but that's how the majority of people buy their games, so it's not an issue for them. Yes, it got a lukewarm critical reception, but many games that didn't universally wow the critics still have plenty of fans who genuinely enjoy them. As for it being "poor-looking", this thread alone has several people saying that the graphics look good to them, so clearly their supposed badness is subjective.

So what you seem to be saying here is that you judge this game by your specific values, and other people are "fools" if they don't share the same values.

So yeah I'm hearing this game is most impressive on switch 2. Basically one of those miracle ports. Might have to double dip. I hate that it's a key card but I guess that's just the way things go with third party games on this system sadly.

I find it odd that at launch on other systems it's like everyone and their brother was hating on this game and ubisoft. Why is everyone praising it now? I don't get it. Seems decent enough.

@OmnitronVariant I was watching some comparison videos between the S2 and PS5 versions, and I think it looks rather good in comparison. It's certainly not poor looking. The fact they've got it down to 20gb, and it still looks as good as it does, is pretty impressive... It being a GameKey is not ideal but their excuse for it being so seemed reasonable to me. I am not a fan of Ubisoft games myself but I'd say they deserve some credit for this port.

@OorWullie
This game by no means "looks poor". Even Technical specialists like Digital Foundry say it's possibly the best looking game on the entire system. Certainly one of the best.

I've been playing it, and it takes Cyberpunk 2077 to task.

Its amusing seeing people get knots in their stomach and start lashing out attacking regular people just enjoying their hobby playing a game. It's like seeing people enjoy games on Switch 2 is krypyonite for them. Their tell is the fact they go beyond criticizing a game and throw out ad hominems toward anyone enjoying said game. As if ppl are gonna be intimidated out of playing what they like so some 10 year old doesnt slander them.

It was very interesting to read the article about the Ubisoft employee saying the game key card had nothing to do with money and all to do with the read speed of a cartridge not being fast enough for the open world sections.

Doesn’t shed much light on why games like Street Fighter are on a game key card, but could explain something like Borderlands 4 or more of these open world games in the future.

@rallydefault
Im all digital anyways but ya, even if I wasn't I'd certainly consider it after seeing the difference in read speeds for internal storage, mSD EX and cartridges. Any game streaming assets will have less pop-in on internal storage than mSD EX (the extent of which will vary depending on the card- I use the Lexar with 900 mbps speed which will obviously perform better than the Gamestop card with 800 mbps speed), and even more so compared with an on-cart release.

Then again, one could still buy physical for the games that get on-cart releases, and go digital for the rest. The ones that do get full releases are typically games that can run perfectly fine from cart. So it's not really a negative for those games.

Digital is the inevitable future- even if NSW2 started getting all games on cart, what about NSW3? There's no way it's viable next generation. So the days are numbered regardless.

Just played another few hours and really enjoying Outlaws.

I fixed my ship and finally got to take it out and that space combat is TOUGH. Is keeping up with & shooting enemy ships difficult because my ship hasn't gotten upgraded yet?

@JaxonH Have you fixed your ship yet? Did you deal with that first space flight & combat ok? I couldn't keep enemy ships in view to shoot them & quit the quest. (I may have poor space combat skills😆)

@WoomyNNYes
Try adjusting gyro settings and see if that helps you aim. Not sure if it works while flying ship but I think it has an option for that. The menu is so extensive. I was kind of overwhelmed trying to figure out what everything did with the gyro. But yeah, I would definitely recommend looking into the gyro settings, because aiming while moving is so much easier when you can instinctively aim with subtle wrist movements while navigating movement with the left analog.

@OutlawGamer
Have you activated gyro aiming yet? I found if you turn it on, then increase sensitivity by 1 notch in X and Y (maybe 2 notches? Try 1 and if its not enough increase it another notch). It makes aiming so much easier and more fun. Also easier to direct Nix where you want him to go. It's the single best exclusive feature this version offers which, imo, elevates it from a 7/10 game to an 8.5/10 game. Such is the power of gyro aiming.

There's also touch screen support which I believe can be used for the lockpicking puzzles. I haven't tried it personally, but I watched a video of someone else using it and it seemed really intuitive.

I guess I'm what you'd call an old lapsed Star Wars fan - I've seen all the main theatrical feature films (original trilogy and Rogue One being my faves) but haven't watched or followed any of the Disney TV shows, nor have I read anything newer than the 3 original Admiral Thrawn novels by Timothy Zahn (great books!). But I was curious to see what a modern SW game looks like, and a story focused on the seedier side of the galaxy sounded fun. With Switch and S2 being my only modern game machines, I decided to go against my better judgement and buy another digital game (Outlaws and Yakuza Zero were both game key card purchases - at least I can sell or lend out the darn things if I want).

So last night I slot in the physical dongle to the digital Outlaws game into my S2, dutifully wait a half-hour for the 20GB to download, and boot it up. Sure enough, there is Ubisoft's account system log-in page, demanding I log in. It's not an online, multiplayer-only game - how can they not allow us players to opt out if we wish?? Ridiculous. Then I was going to attempt to boot while in airplane mode, but you can't switch that on while docked. Ughhh - I don't like to use handheld mode at home.

I was too sleepy to deal with the drama last night, so this evening I'll attempt a start in handheld/airplane mode and then maybe dock it after that? If anyone knows of a better way to defeat Ubi's onerous log-in, please by all means let me know.

@Teksette I think a main reason for the login is for cross platform save data. If you try to skip or back out of the ubisoft login, I think it might skip it or just automatically log in with your nintendo account credentials - so you never have to type in a user & pw. Epic Games does something similar with Rocket League.

@WoomyNNYes
Thank you, I’m sure cross-save is a wonderful feature for everyone rocking multiple systems, but I’d rather decline. I spend obscene amounts of money as it is, limiting myself to one game platform. I’d go way over-budget if I had a PS5 or gaming PC, too.

I did try to skip or back out of the log-in screen, but it wouldn’t take “no” for an answer.
I’ll see how it behaves in airplane mode tonight.

So how is it? Pretty fun?

I'm completely against the key card, but I reaaaaally like Star Wars... and Trails in the Sky is still 10 days away lol

@rallydefault I'm 20+ hours in. I've been really liking it. I'm glad I bought it (eshop). Finally a decent star wars game that isn't ancient, plenty of sneaking around missions, you can shoot a blaster, get around with a land speeder.

I went ahead and bought the keycard version. I feel kinda dirty. I said I'd never buy one. I do worry that it'll one day become a useless hunk of plastic but by the time Nintendos servers shut down I'll be too old to give a damn anyway. Heck the wii still lets you download previously purchased digital games and that thing hasn't been relevant since 2011.

Ubi Account Malarky Update

Upon checking this evening, it seems the Ubisoft account login requirement is unavoidable if your S2 is connected to the internet. If you first put your S2 into airplane mode and then boot up the game, however, Ubisoft relents and allows you to play the game in offline mode, no login required.

You must undock your S2 before you can enable airplane mode, but once that’s done and you boot up the Outlaws game, you can dock your Deuce to play on your tv if you prefer.

Minor hoops to jump through, to be sure, but at least the option to play the game offline exists. I just wish Ubisoft was more up front about the offline option, instead of saying “Welcome! LOGIN REQUIRED.”
They wouldn’t collect as much marketable player data that way, though. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I’m glad for the workaround, as Outlaws seems engaging and sufficiently Star Warsy and really visually impressive for a Switch-only gamer like me.