Topic: Nintendo Switch 2

The only thing I would say is there has been a huge revival in 3DS consoles and that may be more the software but prices have gone very high and I really used to enjoy playing those games in 3D on my travels. PS3 was really the console that really supported 3D. PS4 had some 3D titles but very few compared to PS3. 3D gaming on PS3 was amazing especially with the 7.1 surround sound. However things move on, not always for the better in my opinion.

I think the fundamental problem with 3D TV and movies is that making good 3D content was possible but expensive and required real effort. Making bad 3D content was cheap and easy, so that's what most people did. Only, if most of the content was crap, that gave the customer very little incentive to invest in expensive 3D viewing equipment. Which trapped the format in a bootstrapping problem, since if the average customer doesn't even have an expensive 3D TV, why bother making 3D content?

I don't think the format will be revisited until such time as making a TV 3D is no longer expensive. If and when a TV can be made 3D cheaply enough that it gets thrown in as a feature purely for a marketing bullet point ( as opposed to "so we can charge triple the price" )? Then TV and movies might start more routinely making 3D content again.

RE9 is fairing well on S2. Got my preorder in with best buy already. Super pumped.

Marvel Maximum Collection coming to Switch with a bunch of classic Marvel games, but here's the kicker...

It includes Maximum Carnage and Separation Anxiety of SNES/Genesis fame! If you haven't heard of these games, you should have. Maximum Carnage is THE best Marvel game I've ever played. It's straight 🔥

I've beaten Maximum Carnage on Genesis so many times I lost count. Even my old dentist had a Genesis in the lobby with that game inserted where I'd play.

Separation Anxiety is like a sequel, which I never owned as a kid so I've only played some of it (injected both these games into Virtual Console shells and installed on my modded New 3DS), but it seems like more of a great thing, except with Venom as a playable character rather than just Spiderman.

I love the moves you can do in Maximum Carnage, like positioning yourself in between 2 enemies and slinging webs on each side, attaching to the enemies, then swinging them above head and bashing them together. I love how they portray Shriek and Doppleganger and all the other villains. It's so good!

@NintendoByNature
Same. All 3 games are preloaded. What a difference its been having good 3rd party support this generation out the gate. For every 1st party game I play it seems there's half a dozen 3rd party releases crowding it for attention.

For me, the big selling point is X-Men Arcade. I played so much of it as a kid. Its not my favorite arcade game ever ( Tower of Doom! ), but its probably the one I played most often.

@JaxonH exactly. I could probably get this on Xbox for a little better performance, but I wanted to support the S2 with a day 1 release and its handheld. Plus game-chat which I’ve never used but wouldn’t be opposed to trying it if I get stuck and someone could provide help. Sounds dope actually. Also agree on maximum carnage. I played that game endlessly as a kid but never did beat it. One of the very best beat em up’s on the system next to SoR2. I’ll buy it for that game alone and trying out some of those others.

I was talking to my brother about the Switch 2. His opinion is that the system's not worth getting this time around because there aren't a lot of games for it at the moment. Though I think there will be enough or almost enough games I will want for it eventually (only game I would want from it now is MK World). Because of my faith for the company giving me systems with great games such as the 3DS and Switch.

I also thought somewhere in the conversation that Nintendo's going to be in hot water with how companies are seeking rom right now for AI. Anyone think Nintendo's not going to release a lot of games this generation, or think there'll be a worse problem on the horizon for them regarding when it comes to releasing Switch 2 games?

I wonder too if the reason Pokopia is a Game Key Cart is because of rom shortage.

@PeterTomlan86
I don't think Pokopia has anything to do with the RAM shortage. It's developed by Koei Tecmo and published by Gamefreak or Pokemon Company or whoever (not Nintendo, except Japan), and they likely just wanted to save money because data probably shows the marginal increase in sales doesn't outweigh the costs.

As for your brother, that's normal. If everyone thought a system was worth it out the gate, consoles would sell 100+ million their first year (if enough could be produced). Most buy whenever a game releases they're interested in, or several games, and that process spreads over a decade, not all within the very first year.

That said, everyone knows you buy a console not just for what it has now, but what it will have over the next 10 years. And Nintendo's already on what, major exclusive release #8 with Pokopia? Not even counting NS2 Editions or smaller releases? Imagine how many games it's gonna have by the end of the generation... Triple digits, in addition to all the Switch games that run better, upgrades and 3rd party, all of which offer the hybrid handheld advantage.

Maybe he gets one eventually, maybe he doesn't. But judging by the record breaking sales, I wouldn't form any conclusions based on his opinions.

@NintendoByNature
No gyro aiming on Xbox, either. And at least for me, that's a deal breaker (it's why I skipped Fallout 4 on Switch 2). I can't even imagine trying to play Resident Evil Requiem using just the right analog to aim, especially in handheld.

I'm eager to try Separation Anxiety and give it a real go. If it's even close to anywhere near as good as Maximum Carnage, it's gonna be worthwhile.

GameChat is super dope. Idk why more people aren't using it. Sometimes I'll GameChat with Kaz or my brother or whoever while we play different games, sometimes suspending and blowing up their screen to hear their game audio too and just watch them play while talking.

Not something to use all the time, but it's great here and there. And especially useful when playing together like in Split Fiction.

....wtf is up with this site, getting to the forums to check on new messages and post replies is a nightmare now...

What happened? It was the same normal 2 clicks for me.

@FishyS Just pages not loading, I can get get to the home page fine in most cases, but once I go to an article or forum it just gets stuck on loading sometimes. lol

@JaxonH He also thought the Switch 2 generation gonna or might be (can't remember which,) like the Playstation 5's generation. I mean, I think Nintendo has more to offer in exclusives these days than Sony with their latest system. I do think that's because games have been taking longer to develop. I heard one of the problems with Sony is that they don't have enough variety games like they used to. I can understand that, as someone who has grown up in the original Playstation days. Like, whatever happened to their Platformers, anyway?

So you don't think the Switch 2 will be bad in the future?

@PeterTomlan86
PS5 have a lot of 3rd party cozy / cute games, platformer games, etc in different genre.
Bluey, Barbie, Paw Patrol, Fantasy Life, Story of Seasons, KeeWe, Hello Kitty, The Plucky Squire, etc.
There are a lot of variety of PS5 games.
What do you mean PS5 don't have enough games variety?
I played those kids games on PS5 in different genres.

@PeterTomlan86
Of course not. When's the last time Nintendo released a gaming device that didn't get absolutely littered with top-shelf exclusives? Even the Wii U was chock to the hilt with bangers given the fact it only really had 3 years on the market before they gave up on development (that last year of Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival and Mario Tennis Ultra Smash... ya, not good).

We can simply look at the Nintendo Switch for an idea of what Switch 2 will look like by the end of its run. Heck, we can look at Switch 2 and get a rough idea of how great the lineup will be in 8 years.

Switch 2 released mid-2025, and by the end of 2026 we'll already have the following:

• Mario Kart World
• Donkey Kong Bonanza
• Kirby Air Riders
• Hyrule Warriors Age of Imprisonment
• Pokemon Legends Z-A
• Metroid Prime 4: Beyond
• Mario Tennis Fever
• Pokopia
• Yoshi and the Mysterious Book
• Fire Emblem Fortune's Weave
• Splatoon Raiders
• The Duskbloods
• Pokemon Gen 10

Not to mention countless NS2 Editions (Zelda BotW, Zelda TotK, Kirby Forgotten Land, Mario Party Jamboree, Animal Crossing New Horizons, Xenoblade X, Mario Wonder), free upgrades (ARMS, Super Mario 3D World, Super Mario Odyssey, NSMBU, Captain Toad, Zelda Link's Awakening, Zelda Echoes of Wisdom, Splatoon 3, Mario Galaxy, Mario Galaxy 2, DKC Returns), 3rd party console exclusives (Hades 2, FAST Fusion, Bravely Default Remastered), and more competent 3rd party releases with proper gyro and/or mouse aiming than you can shake a stick at (Cyberpunk 2077, Star Wars Outlaws, Hogwarts Legacy, Resident Evil Requiem, Indiana Jones, etc).

And we don't even have the full 2026 lineup yet! The year has barely begun and we typically see 3 Directs per year, each of which announce several new exclusive games.

Now... multiply that out over the span of a decade. Imagine all the games we know will come- a new Smash Bros, a new 2D and 3D Mario, a new 2D and 3D Zelda, a new Luigi's Mansion, at least two new Mario Party titles, a new Xenoblade successor, another new Fire Emblem, a new Pikmin, several more new Pokemon built ground up for Switch 2, a new 2D Metroid, a new Monster Hunter built for Switch 2, a new Bayonetta, a new Paper Mario, a new Splatoon, a new WarioWare, a new 2D Donkey Kong, etc).

Add in hundreds of the best 3rd party games as we're already seeing with Final Fantasy 7 Remake/Rebirth, Indiana Jones, Resident Evil 7/8/9, Street Fighter 6, Pragmata, 007 First Light, Falcoms games like Trails in the Sky, Ys X and Tokyo Xanadu, Fantasy Life i, Yakuza 0/1/2/3, etc, and well, it's a lot.

But the best part we often take for granted is- all of these games are both console and handheld versions. So it's not just a flood of excellent games, it's a flood of excellent hybrid handheld games. Which is why even getting older ports is exciting- it provides a new way to experience them.

I think even the most cynical, jaded gamer will end up struggling to hate the Switch 2 in the end.

@PeterTomlan86 Live service is to blame for Sony’s output on PS5. The 2 leaders of that era (Jim Ryan and Hermen Hulst) sent most of their studios to work on live service games in an attempt to become the next Fortnite while also acquiring some live service studios like Bungie. It backfired massively resulting in cancellations, layoffs and studio closures.

Also, despite people saying PS5 has no games and whatever, it still sold like, 90+ million? 92 million? right now, and I'm just... well, why does exclusives matter now then, when it doesn't matter for PS5 to sell that much :v

It does have exclusives. Not only because Sony does still have some exclusives despite sometimes...seemingly trying not to, and some of those exclusives are incredibly popular but PC will always be somewhat niche by comparison and Xbox is practically dead so for a lot of people, they are in fact exclusives. They cannot be played on the high end PC or Xbox if they don't have them in the first place. :V

Even for games that are also on Switch 1 or 2, they are still exclusive for a lot of people because they have one console. And sincerely, even when that's not true, its still true to enough people depending on the marketing. If I didn't know otherwise, I would just assume that HD-2D games and Super Monkey Ball games were all exclusive to Switch (I hate that I have to edit this because someone will point this out, yes I know HD-2D games generally start as exclusives, that's exactly why its still associated with Nintendo), because they are marketed to a Nintendo audience and just happen to show up elsewhere.

@kkslider5552000 Yeah, although I will say that people do still run on that PS5 doesn't have games though, so that's the moniker it has despite whatever the reality is. (which is that it has some exclusives)

... Tbh I just wonder what people are expecting though, because for me while Switch 2 doesn't have much exclusives I like right now (except uhh, Pokemon I suppose? Pokopia looks great), it's still got a lot of exclusives? Idk I guess, this is a topic I will never really get, because for me the fact it's a nice handheld with Pokemon and some other games is definitely awesome. :v

@darkfenrir
Exclusives do matter, it's just that they're not the only thing that matters.

1) PS5 has no real competition in the power console market anymore, so it's the default choice based on 3rd parties alone

B) It does have some exclusives, even if the vast majority of what would have been exclusive are also on PS4 or PC now. Goes back to Point 1, really. It may not have many but because Xbox has none, even half a dozen can be the deciding factor for those looking at buying a power console.

If Xbox had made all their games exclusive this gen (console exclusive, at least) PS5 would still have done well based on brand loyalty and the select exclusives it does have, but I don't think it would have done nearly as well. But, Xbox is on the way out now so, PS doesn't really have to do anything anymore.

It's a Nintendo and Playstation only world moving forward.

It's a meme basically and I'm undecided if its terrible because its untrue (especially annoying since Sony's initial marketing was very good at confirming actual exclusives before release) or if its completely deserved because Sony could be AWESOME at exclusives even with the occasional PC port but chased live services instead of actual video games. (calling live services not video games is my hyperbolic meme, btw, that is justified based on how most live services are disgustingly cynical).

I lean more towards the latter simply because the lack of exclusives has been stupid and bad imo, partially because I genuinely believe that and partially because at this point I want as much of the fundamental opposite of modern AAA gaming practices as much as reasonably possible (even if I do want Final Fantasy to be more popular than it seems to be as a Sony exclusive anymore).