Topic: Next Nintendo Direct?

@skywake Well, the forest is visible and I appreciate your showing it, but these trees are also interesting!

I'm always rooting for all the Mainline Mario games to be in one place. Switch is missing Galaxy 2, 3 of the New Super Mario games, Mario Land 1, and 3D land. I'm assuming Galaxy 2 will come out whenever they re-release 3D all stars, possibly on Switch 2 and/or next year for the 40th Mario anniversary. On the 35th anniversary they gave us both 3D world and 3D all-stars, so I'm hoping/expecting the Switch Mario collection to come closer to completion next year.

All of those games I've either never gotten the chance to play or want to re-play because it's been so long.

Zelda is a little farther from completion, but I'm sure they'll continue to trickle out ports/remasters/remakes.

Yeah I can easily see them lean heavily into the GameCube, Wii, and 3DS libraries for ports/remasters over the next year or two.

F-Zero GX, Paper Mario TTYD, Kid Icarus Uprising, etc are easy wins with the fanbase to fill in the release schedule with as they focus on Switch 2 development.

Honestly wouldn't be surprised if that Peach game is one of the only brand new 1st party titles for Switch 1 in 2024, with most of everything else being ports/remasters.

@GrailUK You don't need to buy multiple chessboards to play chess multiple times though, and you don't need to buy multiple copies of a game to play it multiple times. If you're trying to sell someone another chessboard or another copy of the same game, you need something to differentiate the experience. I'm not getting why graphical updates are that something.

@skywake @Grumblevolcano That's fine but again, you don't need a remaster for that. You can put the originals on NSO (now that might not work for some system at this point, I wouldn't expect to see 3DS or Wii U titles on NSO because emulation isn't quite there yet for those systems, but GC? Nah, we should have the GC games on NSO). This just feels like a cash grab that greatly benefits the developers but only just barely benefits the gamers. IDK why gamers continue to tolerate the practice of glorified upres remasters instead of wanting remakes that modernize MUCH more than just graphics.

@Bolt_Strike Ports/remasters/remakes are a lot better value than adding stuff to NSO. You get to actually keep the games (rather than constantly pay to rent it), sometimes the game is improved outside graphics (e.g. WWHD made the Triforce quest a lot less obnoxious) and also there's a point where subscriptions are at their best with after that point it just constantly gets worse in value. Game Pass reached its best value in 2021 for example.

If Nintendo were to add GCN games to NSO, they'd either add a more expensive tier (e.g. £60 a year) or increase the price of NSO Expansion Pack.

@Grumblevolcano I like the fact that the NSO is for retro games. Who knows, in 20 years time, we may be wondering if Switch games come to the service!

@GrailUK Bloody hell, don’t get started discussing what contributes retro. I was on a Reddit forums a while ago and the rules around what was considered retro was just bizarre. Basically nothing beyond PS1 was considered retro because it’s all just better looking 3D visuals. It’s a really divisive subject as everyone has such different perspectives on what they consider retro.

@FragRed Well, it helps me sleep at night by considering retro as something that no longer contributes to a country's quality of life. Some folk go for state of the art. Others because of circumstance go for cheaper models (or the previous generation if still sold.) And that applies to just about anything from furniture to consumer electronics. What might be retro in one country might still be all the rage in another due to their economy etc. But yeah, I get other folk have their own take.

@GrailUK Furniture is an interesting example because people buy 1970s 'retro' furniture but some people also have furniture which was made literal centuries ago. I wonder what retro will mean in gaming when there are a couple hundred years worth of video games around.

@FishyS Yeah, interesting. But ultimately, what a couple of 1000 people do because of a hobby or quirky design tastes, won't really impact on what the rest of the 10s of millions are doing lol.

@GrailUK I was more thinking, will 'retro gaming' always consist of 20-50 years in the past or will it consist of everything old? Or will there be antique gaming? 😝 Will Nintendo be selling online services which include a port of a port of a port of a port of Oracle of Seasons in 200 years? 10s of millions of people do subscribe to NSO afterall.

@FishyS Antiques Roadshow in 50 years time is going to be cool!!!

With music there's the whole what counts as classic rock discussion. Some say it's static (e.g. no later than the 80s and that'll be the case even in 50 years time) while others say it's more about how long ago it released (e.g. some count American Idiot as a classic rock album which released in 2004).

'And on our left we have a sealed copy of Persona 3 FES for the Playstation 2, do I hear £650 do I hear £750'

@Fizza 'Have you considered putting it into a clear plastic box to tripple it's value?'

@GrailUK Ah yes, you clearly have an original Mayamoto here. This is from the Mario line of games, this one called Super Mario Bros. It’s a really fine piece of art. Look at how the pixels move on the screen. Really quite extraordinary work how it all moves.

Anyway I’d say in the right auction, in this condition, it could fetch somewhere in the realm of £2 million

@FragRed LOL!

@GrailUK £2 million in 2073 is going to afford you a pack of Walkers crisps. But judging by how small they are getting, it won’t hold much.

@FragRed Whoa! I think I'll start buying packets of Walkers crisps now and keep hold of them! (They will probably be called Lays by them, too. Hmmm...that could affect their value...)

@GrailUK Correction PepsiCo Lays Crisps