And to say it’s not Just because you level up your Pokémon and not the trainer, is kinda silly, you are a Pokémon trainer, not a party member, your a coach, you make the plays Pokémon do the plays. The trainer is just the person (You) that somehow gives orders to the party given form.
Does this make sports manager games RPGs, just with travel and exploration excised?
@Tounushi Demons are legit just tools which you use to fight for you in Shin Megami Tensei, and yet that's still a JRPG, since they're technically counted as party members, and they still level up. Pokemon are still party members which level up.
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I have no idea someone would actually argue that Pokémon isn’t a jrpg, it boggles my mind, it’s just fact. If you level up a party, add party members, have stuff like healing potions and the like, it’s a jrpg, how in the world does sport manager games count? There sport managers! Unless said sport managers have the basic rpg fundamentals, then no, it isn’t, but I don’t know many or any sport managers.
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@Tounushi The thing is though, it's not just an unpopular opinion. It's factually incorrect. Nintendo even lists Pokemon as a "Roleplaying game" on the eshop, which is what JRPGs are pretty much listed under. The official pokemon Scarlet and Violet website even mentions that it's the first open-world pokemon RPG.
"It is fate. Many have tried, yet none have ever managed to escape it's flow."
@Tounushi Gen 1 was marketed as a RPG back when the series was first made.
@Snatcher Legends wasn't open world. It was more akin to Monster Hunter, where you had big open areas to explore, but none of them were connected. With Scarlet and Violet, the entire world is completely open. Every area aside from one city is connected without a loading screen, at least going off the previews for the game, and you're free to do the gyms in any order you wish apparently.
"It is fate. Many have tried, yet none have ever managed to escape it's flow."
I've been wrong about this for 26 years so I'm refuse to be unwrong now and fact is this is my opinion and opinions can't be wrong so it's factually right!
Gen 1 was marketed as a RPG back when the series was first made.
Back then the only marketing about it here was the show, maybe some posters and an occasional TV ad and nobody at school refered to it as an RPG. When they were having the event of dealing out Mew at Tennari I don't remember the media calling it an RPG. In fact this thread is the first time I've even run into the subject of whether or not Pokemon's an RPG.
@Tounushi Omg dude you should get a good Mendel for the gymnastics your doing, “water cannot perform the function of making things wet upon itself.” Bro are we really going to do this? How would I be wrong about that? It’s just an unpopular opinion, it’s my opinion therefore it’s not wrong. Is all this Just because you can’t admit that Pokémon is a jrpg? Is it that big of a deal that your wrong? It’s not an opinion, it’s not, for a fact pokemon is a jrpg.
@Tounushi Omg dude you should get a good Mendel for the gymnastics your doing, “water cannot perform the function of making things wet upon itself.” Bro are we really going to do this? Just because you can’t admit that Pokémon is a jrpg? Is it that big of a deal that your wrong? It’s not an opinion, it’s not, for a fact pokemon is a jrpg.
You're the one taking a conniption about my opinion on the issue. Gen I Pokemon simply didn't and still doesn't feel like an RPG to me and in all likelihood never will. It's its own thing in my eyes and I won't be condescending or dismissive enough to call it a baby's first JRPG.
It's simply my unpopular opinion and I haven't been convinced by arguments against it and I don't even see changing people's opinions through argumentation or childish browbeating as the purpose of this thread. In fact you wanting me to "admit" to an imposition would only elicit further entrenchment.
If you wanna argue about later gens being RPGs, I have no informed basis to make an opinion about them beyond a wiki crawl. I place firsthand experience ahead of that.
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