@bimmy-lee I agree mostly because I wore those records out and they don’t impact me the same way they once did when it was new. I had an older brother who was into alt-rock. He used to wake me up for elementary school blasting that stuff. That should’ve created a negative association but oddly it did the opposite.
In Utero is my favorite of theirs as well.
@ThanosReXXX Horror is one of my favorite genres, but there is a line between dread and depressing. The first two Silent Hills are a good example of the former and Manhunt 2 is an example of the later. Manhunt 2 just felt like it was a game that was shocking me out of desperation rather than being creative about it.
I also felt like Layers of Fear and Outlast were doing bad horror with desperate shocks and jump scares, but Amnesia and Soma were more atmospheric and smart about it. To each their own and I guess you need both to satisfy whatever people crave.
@ThanosReXXX Dudes screaming soprano doesn't happen often, but it's hilarious when they do! Usually it's a moment similar to "Huh. Didn't expect it from THAT guy."
I don't dislike fighting and racing games per se, it's just that the general repetition (at least in the games I encounter) after a little while causes me to lose interest. The only game genre I actively dislike and try to avoid is the sports genre. Wii Sports is the closest thing to that I do enjoy, but a little goes a long way. It's also better played with others.
I'm not really into FPS games either, though I'm not against playing games that incorporate some similar elements like the Metroid Prime games. A few of them are a bit too realistic for my liking, plus in many cases they look too similar to each other.
Agreed that some people take games way too seriously, at least the ones that aren't meant to be such. The attitude is nothing new, but it is the newest medium to be attacked. A couple that you mentioned earlier do have problems to be sure, and unfortunately it's games like that that concerned people focus on. However, I think some of this could be mitigated by people actually paying attention to age ratings and the actual content of the game.
Currently playing: Layton's Mystery Journey: Katrielle and the Millionaires' Conspiracy (Switch)
@NotTelevision Yeah, horror done bad is also not something I like, but that's not really what we were talking about. Cheap or overly standard (or even nonsensical) jump scares are in an entirely different category than violence for the sake of violence, or as @bimmy-lee so aptly named it, gratuitous violence. And to emphasize: realistic violence. That is also why we mentioned the games we did. Violence in a horror or zombie game is completely fictional, obviously.
@Tyranexx Well, to be fair, games like the Mortal Kombat and Sniper Elite series already do have a higher age rating, so I don't think that's going to help all that much in that regard. What it mostly is, in my opinion, is people without sufficient knowledge about them, or about games/video gaming in general taking pot shots at material that's completely taken out of context. If you freeze frame a fatality in Mortal Kombat or a kill in Sniper Elite, then it probably looks absolutely horrifying to the uninitiated, but if you see it in the context of the game itself, then it's a completely different story.
If you're willing to look into it with an open mind, that is. Another problem that these "holier than thou" people often seem to have...
@Eel I know you're also an RE officiando. Are you going to check out that top down re clone Heaven Dust? @ThanosRexxx I would think by Friday I'll 100% NBN 😉
@Ninfan which ones in Korea and Japan are good. I would truly want to know.
@1UP_MARIO i never see Japan soccer anywhere on television. There team wasn't great in the last world cup. But I remember Japan teams 20 years ago were really skillful, I mean I didn't mention Japan because of computer games, I mentioned them cause there one of the best .I have sky sports but it's not on any of the channels they have, but if you ask they could get it for you. I mean I don't know if it's still good but I just said to heavyarsm55 to look at it as it might have better football..
@ThanosReXXX With the age rating thing, I was getting at the fact that someone like an eight-year-old shouldn't be playing a rated M game. Yet we know it happens. If not for the parents not paying attention to ratings or just not caring, or because a kid got a hold of or played a game out of their wheelhouse through different means. I'm not "to the book" to a T with ratings - I find it okay for an eleven-year-old to play a rated T game depending on their maturity and its content - but I do think they're important guidelines.
But yes, a lot of criticism with wider media is taken out of context. That's not to say that we shouldn't be critical of media, but evaluating something based on one piece of criteria vs. the whole game/movie/book is unfair and does an unbiased audience an injustice.
Granted, a lot of what fuels some of these debates - especially over here - is worth discussion and scrutiny, but I believe such problems that violent video games/movies/etc. are associated with are multi-faceted and don't have a singular cause.
Currently playing: Layton's Mystery Journey: Katrielle and the Millionaires' Conspiracy (Switch)
This is the just the trailer, and I've watched some gameplay footage. It's not going to win any awards but it looks like a decent RE appetizer. Theres herb mixing, codes to unlock, dresser pushing, etc. Just normal stuff you'd expect in an RE game. I might check it out one day when my backlog is completed.
@Tyranexx Oh, agreed on what kids of a certain age should be playing or not, and some criticism on certain media is definitely warranted, so no discussion there. Also agreed on there not being a single source/cause (aka violent and/or "realistic" video games) for a problem such as teenage violence, but then again: that's already been old news to us seasoned gamers for decades...
@NintendoByNature Don't you just hate these YouTube short links that don't immediately show you the video and make you go to another page again?
All kidding aside though, I do wonder why only complete links work to display videos embedded on here.
Oh, well...
'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'
@ThanosReXXX In regards to violence in particular, I agree that context is important. What that context is can be debated, but I’ll keep that can of worms sealed. 😁
@ThanosReXXX Oh boy. I'm somewhat familiar with the debates that rose up in the 80s-90s and like analyzing them from a historical perspective. Some of that gave rise to ratings to begin with, but some of it is/was a product of context and fear-mongering.
@Tyranexx And Mortal Kombat has been a part of that particular agenda since day one. That fact alone should make you stop and wonder about the movable goalposts of these idiots. It was never about realistic depictions of violence, because those first debatable games were anything but realistic.
But that IS the agenda now, and seeing as part of the army and/or certain divisions also train with these types of real life sims, these short-sighted individuals and agencies have almost no other choice than to connect the dots in the only way that makes sense to them: artificial violence is a breeding ground for the real life version...
But as @NotTelevision already so rightfully noted, we better leave the rest of this topic behind and talk about more uplifting stuff.
'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'
@NintendoByNature That was actually pretty easy: open the short link in a new tab or window, and it redirects to the full link, which I posted here. (you do have to leave out everything including and after the '&' sign, though, otherwise it still won't work)
EDIT:
And I never use the built-in "copy url" that YouTube videos have. That's what creates these nonsensical short links in the first place. If you right click a YouTube video and select "copy embed code" instead, it'll give you a command line that also includes the full source link to the video:
@NintendoByNature I had already seen it before. It's okayish, and it does indeed have all the Resident Evil mechanics down pat, but because of the cartoonish characters, this just doesn't work for me personally, as a valid replacement for the actual Resident Evil games. I don't get jump scares from cute, chibi-like zombies...
'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'
@ThanosReXXX for sure. It'll be a nice time filler on a rainy day. I'm sure it'll be under alot of people's radar and will get a price drop before we know it. So I'll probabaly wait until that point to pull the trigger (pun intended 😉)
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