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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia Well, isn't that what I already said? Their reputation over here is apparently a heck of a whole lot better than in the US, for whatever reason, because over here, they are most definitely NOT known for making "bog standard" hardware. It's Deutsche grundlichkeit, German thoroughness/ingenuity, and it's always quality hardware, and very durable, pretty much like @bimmy-lee has also mentioned. (thanks for the addition, by the way)

But yeah, over here, they are primarily famous for their game related hardware, so laptops, screens, keyboards and what not. But all are definitely considered premium and one of the go to hardware brands for dedicated PC gamers.

'The console wars are like boobs. Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

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NEStalgia

@bimmy-lee I think the last time I was in a TRU was when the N64 just came out. It was like a dream store back then. I hadn't seen it's long, slow decline, assuming it had one from executive neglect. I peered in the window a few times, debating if I should go in over the final few years (ultimately deciding not to, not because I didn't want to see it but because it's going to be a germ infested incubator ) but I kind of regret not doing so, now. From what I saw it looked the same as it did the last time I was there.....which is when the N64 came out. To me that's a wonderful thing. But everyone seems to want "new everything" these days, I guess. I'll never understand why people want everything to always be "modernized" and "new" all the time. Best toystores ever are those old 1950's ones left over when you find one on occasion. Buckets of cool stuff there!

I dunno, I love the toy department of a retailer I grew up with it I suppose.... Not much left of them, sadly. But I still walk through it whenever I do go somewhere with one. I think I still want half the toys. They have make your own crayon kits now. I want one.

Think it's a problem if I go to what little is left of the rapidly deteriorating mall and sit on Santa's lap?

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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia By the way: over here, it's actually Acer that is seen as the brand for people that want a cheap, "bog standard" PC solution. Definitely not one of the worthwhile brands...

'The console wars are like boobs. Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

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jump

ThanosReXXX wrote:

I'm actually sad that we're now even discussing this, because it's the VERY thing I tried to prevent.

If you want to prevent it stop mentioning it

Nicolai wrote:

Alright, I gotta stop getting into arguments with jump. Someone remind me next time.

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NEStalgia

@ThanosReXXX Huh. I figured they had that reputation in Asia, but didn't realize it was EU too. The whole "gaming" focus thing always seemed like over the top branding to me with mostly overclocker friendly crazy features and high price tags.

When mobo shopping I'm apt to chose them over ASRock and the rest of the crummy stuff out there, but I'll always take an Intel OEM board first! No gaming features there, but you won't find something more reliable anywhere!

That explains the disconnect though. Their Zenbooks are almost Apple expensive, and I've never quite understood why "me-too Asus" thinks they're anywhere close to a similar playing field, but always found it funny. Apparently they have a higher profile elsewhere. Acer, Asus, etc are more "quality brand name generics" than anything else (or at least were 6 or 7 years ago, I haven't really bought much from them recently.)

Also further proof of how effective marketing is at building the product more than the product itself. In one place it's an elite brand you seek on par with Samsung and the like, apparently, in another it's the kind of known-name generic.

EDIT: And yeah, Acer has that same reputation here. I just meant in my own experience, despite that, I've found they've been the more reliable/better supported one. Asus is more prone to dump and forget. Release the product, fix it later, then abandon it without fixing the rest and move on to the new product, leaving the old one a dangling broken mess, software-wise.

There's also the Asus TF201 tablet where they got the idea to put the wifi antenna behind an aluminum plate. They never remedied this, and wifi never worked right. They just sold an updated model the next year that didn't have broken Wifi. I bought one of those. Ugh!

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ThanosReXXX

@jump Likewise, in regards to suddenly jumping into threads that you've otherwise hardly ever participated in, so the fact that you did feel the need to all of a sudden respond to both @NEStalgia and me is potentially kind of telling. But how about deciding to not make any more of it than it is?

I used you as an example, you apparently interpreted that as something else, for which I already said I'm sorry, but that is about as far as I'm gonna go, because other than that, nothing bad happened here, and I would hope that any grown up individual would be able to at least take (and stomach) some criticism without immediately being offended or insulted, or feeling the need to drag a useless discussion out of it.

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'The console wars are like boobs. Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia Over here, the usual suspects far as triple A brands go are HP and Dell for the average PC user, Mac for the elitists, Google Chromebooks for the idiots and Asus or Alienware for the dedicated gamer or video editor and so on.

'The console wars are like boobs. Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

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jump

ThanosReXXX wrote:

@jump Likewise, in regards to suddenly jumping into threads that you've otherwise hardly ever participated in, so the fact that you did feel the need to all of a sudden respond to both @NEStalgia and me is potentially kind of telling. But how about deciding to not make any more of it than it is?

I used you as an example, you apparently interpreted that as something else, for which I already said I'm sorry, but that is about as far as I'm gonna go, because other than that, nothing bad happened here, and I would hope that any grown up individual would be able to at least take (and stomach) some criticism without immediately being offended or insulted, or feeling the need to drag a useless discussion out of it.

LOL, you didn't take my tip and then decided to lay more accusations at me in an indirect way you just declared you never do.

Nicolai wrote:

Alright, I gotta stop getting into arguments with jump. Someone remind me next time.

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NEStalgia

@ThanosReXXX Here, mostly Apple for the video editors, as well. Humbug.

The mainstream home & business ones are HP, Dell, and don't forget Lenovo. And high end business/industrial/fleet/corporate is almost entirely Lenovo Thinkpad (And for government which cut ties with Lenovo after realizing Beijing was baking the spying into the firmware, Dell & HP's Thinkpad competitor lines.)

Well, for a gamer buying a prefab system other than Asus and Alienware it's not like there's any other "gaming for the masses" brand readily available. Most gamers roll their own, and for laptops you've mostly just got those two plus MSI. I always attributed Asus gaming laptop popularity more down to the fact they're at least cheaper than Alienware than anything else

And for the 1337 there's Razer

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Daniel36

I had a Lenovo and I hated it. I am now a very happy owner of a Microsoft Surface. I had one from work and while it took me a while to take a liking to it, especially because of only one USB drive, it grew on me, especially since the thing boots up faster than you can blink, is completely silent and just... works...

I am very happy with mine.

Daniel36

NEStalgia

@Daniel36 I've only owned one "consumer" Lenovo, and it was, indeed a dog. But I swear by the Thinkpads, and for a serious productivity laptop machine wouldn't really buy anything else (other than Dell & HP's competitive models, but those are much more expensive than the already expensive Thinkpads.) Their ruggedness and ergonomics are really unparalleled, but it is, indeed, an expensive, commercial-oriented product line.

I second the Surface though. While my productivity is all Thinkpad, my favorite laptop I've ever had to actually use for things other than serious work is my Surface Pro. Particularly when actually using it on my lap!

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ThanosReXXX

@jump Seriously? WHAT accusations? No offense, but what the heck are you translating my comments into?
I only emphasized that I had already apologized for any potential wrong-doings, AGAIN, and I suggested a gentlemen's agreement to forego continuing this discussion that's literally going nowhere, and I get finger pointing in return? (shakes head)

I think it's about high time for a long, hard look in the mirror, my dear fellow NLife member...

On a side note: you decided to jump in here and react to us, so it would seem to me that you are the one that should be listening to your own advice, instead of suggesting to others that they should stop. Instigators asking other people to stop arguing is surely the world upside down...
(which, by the way, is not "another" accusation, but simply a statement referring to what actually happened)

See where this is going? Had you never bothered to react, or be (WAY too easily) offended or whatever, for which there was also never any need whatsoever in the first place, then we would have never been where we are now, unfortunately.

So, again: shall we just leave it be now, lest we take over this usually highly enjoyable thread with more senseless negativity? Go on, be the responsible adult that I know/hope you can be...
(which is not an insult or accusation either, but just me making a bit of fun because of the ridiculousness of it all)

Thanks in advance.

@NEStalgia Ah, yes. Lenovo, forgot all about those. I've even sold their laptops once. We even used the infamous sales pitch that the keyboards had a built-in liquid drainage system, so you could spill your coffee on it, and it would STILL work...

Over here, Razer is more for peripherals than systems. And of course, dedicated gamers, heck: dedicated PC anything users might be more prone to making their own rig, but that doesn't exclude there being brands that cater to these demographics regardless. I've heard of MSI as well, but it's not something that I come across very often. Then again: I'm not a hardcore PC nut either, so that may have something to do with it as well. At least the other brands I mentioned are advertised well enough that the general public or average PC user knows about them.

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'The console wars are like boobs. Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

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HobbitGamer

@Daniel36 A Surface is the next pc device I’ll buy, maybe in the spring. Can light gaming be done with one?

@bimmy-lee Loved a good rock tumbler

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@ThanosReXXX That drainage system is no joke! It really works! It's actually a cool design I can't believe nobody else has copied. The patent can't possibly still be valid. The trouble though is they sold the idea that Thinkpad has that feature a little too well, when not all series actually have it...

I think everywhere, Razer is more famous for peripherals, but mostly because their systems are priced in ways that makes Apple look cheap. They make some cool stuff (remember the system where every key was an OLED display?) but those prices.... And that quality control....

Here, MSI is probably equally advertised in the gaming laptop world as Asus and Alienware, which is to say if you're in the demographic you know it, if you're not you don't. They're most known for gaming laptops, though they make a lot of video cards as well, and of course some desktops. Asus is more mainstream because they are a big OEM mobo/memory mfr (I.E. HP or Dell machines may often be using Asus boards, so you'll see Asus all over, arguably on most business PCs as well) whereas MSI and Alienware are more gaming specific brands (Alienware just being Dell's gaming division.)

@HobbitGamer Define light gaming? In a word I'd say "no", but if you're talking some indie games and such you might be able to get away with "maybe a little." I wouldn't consider loading Gears or Forza, obviously....

Rock tumblers....ROCK!

Leaving, now...

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jump

ThanosReXXX wrote:

@jump Seriously? WHAT accusations? No offense, but what the heck are you translating my comments into?
I only emphasized that I had already apologized for any potential wrong-doings, AGAIN, and I suggested a gentlemen's agreement to forego continuing this discussion that's literally going nowhere, and I get finger pointing in return? (shakes head)

I think it's about high time for a long, hard look in the mirror, my dear fellow NLife member...

On a side note: you decided to jump in here and react to us, so it would seem to me that you are the one that should be listening to your own advice, instead of suggesting to others that they should stop. Instigators asking other people to stop arguing is surely the world upside down...
(which, by the way, is not "another" accusation, but simply a statement referring to what actually happened)

See where this is going? Had you never bothered to react, or be (WAY too easily) offended or whatever, for which there was also never any need whatsoever in the first place, then we would have never been where we are now, unfortunately.

So, again: shall we just leave it be now, lest we take over this usually highly enjoyable thread with more senseless negativity? Go on, be the responsible adult that I know/hope you can be...
(which is not an insult or accusation either, but just me making a bit of fun because of the ridiculousness of it all)

Thanks in advance.

Stop and think about what you're saying, you're telling me to look in the mirror, baiting me with comments like be a responsible adult etc so of course I'm going to respond after you make digs at me, especially after you randomly brought me up into the conversation.

Nicolai wrote:

Alright, I gotta stop getting into arguments with jump. Someone remind me next time.

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bimmy-lee

@NEStalgia - You’re spot on with the germ infested incubator part. I took my daughter to the same TRU where I bought my 64 in high school. Somehow during that stretch of time, that particular location caught the plague. We’ve discussed a similar nostalgia for old school seedy malls, I have no issue whatsoever if you climb on Santa’s lap, provided you splash out for the pic and post it here.

@jump - I think you might be searching too hard if you feel you’re being insulted, and it’s sort of funny that you would insist on someone using the @ when you yourself don’t use them. That being said, this is a place where we sometimes crack jokes about a variety of topics, including pizza and sometimes even fanatical Pokémon people. If the latter offends you, I would suggest not peeking in on what’s going on around here.

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limby-bee was a jerk.

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jump

bimmy-lee wrote:

and it’s sort of funny that you would insist on someone using an ampersand when you yourself don’t use them.

What ampersand?

Nicolai wrote:

Alright, I gotta stop getting into arguments with jump. Someone remind me next time.

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bimmy-lee

@jump - Yep, I edited ampersand to the @ symbol. What an incredible gotcha moment for you!

limby-bee was a jerk.

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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia Indeed it does work, that "coffee drain". I was going to mention that, but I forgot, in between juggling our conversation and the other, less pleasant one that I currently seem to find myself in, regardless of whether or not I want to...

So tiresome when people lack the comprehension skills to understand what it is you're trying to say, instead opting to seek for non-present insults and accusations...

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'The console wars are like boobs. Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

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ThanosReXXX

@jump See? Other people already confirm that you're apparently reading FAR too much into my comments. They mean EXACTLY what is written, and NOTHING else, so whatever weird twisting paths your brain is trying to make to seek insults and personal attacks in them is entirely your own problem, not mine. If I was out to insult or attack you, I would have never dedicated so much text to explaining myself, nor would I even make the effort of apologizing to you, which by the way, was a genuine apology.

There are no "digs" made at you, and I wasn't baiting you either. In fact, I've SPECIFICALLY added that bit in parentheses to indicate that I was just making a bit of fun, simply because it's all so silly and ridiculous that we've now already spent so much time and text to a complete non-issue. You seem to be VERY easily offended, which is a shame, because there's no one here trying to insult or attack you, and yet you insist on making that point. And THAT is why I suggested you'd take your own advice, and also to take a look into the mirror. It's not always other people that are doing things, you know. It might be you, sometimes...

@bimmy-lee Thanks for the support, man. I was almost, mind you: juuuussst almost, beginning to question myself. I've re-read my comments several times, to see where I supposedly did something wrong, or made "accusations" instead of the things that I actually said, but it's always good to have a second opinion confirming what I already thought was happening. Oh, well. Can't win 'em all, I suppose...

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