Topic: Movie thread.

@Eagly Bobby over at Disney cares more about Ben Franklin then he does Legacy and art.

For crying out loud we're getting a remake for everything! and the original stuff (from Disney) is mediocre as all get out. I hate to come off as negative but this isn't a movie studio anymore it's a factory pumping out movies and merchandise knowing people will buy it because of the past.

Golden Age thinking is a complicated "theory".

edit this guy also kinda ruined the parks by saving money in some areas to make money in more and not in a good way.

@Eagly Not many animated things have caught my eye sadly within the past 5 years.

For the past 3 years I like trying to find weird odd almost forgotten movies and musicians so that they can be remembered and enjoyed. Because in the end this is all entertainment not politics or agendas it's something people put hard work into and cared for, for your enjoyment.

@Eagly Well as they say write what you know.

@Eagly Fiction is the easiest pill to swallow

@Eagly Wrong is right, Right is wrong, twist that per person and you have confusion.

@Eagly Worldly in my opinion. But let's not get down to just the political side of films.

Picking up on some points since I was last in the thread;

I have issues with Deadpool 2. There's a kneejerk reaction to say fudge this film much like in Alien 3 where Newt is dead as they killed off the thing I was most invested in from the previous flick as the first Deadpool was really a romantic comedy dressed up as a superhero movie, they even said so in the film and released it on Valentine's Day. So them killing off the very charming Morena Baccarin (I think she was pregnant when it was filmed from the onset romance she had on Gotham?) leaves a sour taste to me. More so than most rom-com it's not about the chase of two people arguing and then fall in love at the end to live happily every after, Deadpool had a loving relationship living his happy ever after (which is far more romantic to me than simply courting) and his entire motivation was to get back to Morena Baccarin.

I agree with Big Bob at Disney. I know people are keen on cartoons on here and it's going against the trend to hate on Disney but whilst he is generalising he's not wrong in saying most adults do watch movies with real people rather than talking CGI animals.

The idea of movies without any sort of commentary in them sounds like watching mush. Like for example Jurassic Park is a more interesting film as it addresses if they are playing god as at the time genetic engineering and cloning was on the rage rather than just watching people being chased by dinosaurs as seen in all of the sequels which people complain aren't as good as the first. What's really changed is people are celebrating their ignorance and hopping onto zeitgeist outrage to complain about the most stupid things imaginable and want to dismiss something as pOliTicALZ therefore wrong and how dare they rather than just process the films themselves. Juno, a film about a teenage girl that wants an abortion but her mind is changed when she meets a protester so she has the baby, I enjoyed even though I'm pro-choice. Or Demolition Man and Idiocracy two very similar films of someone is frozen and wake up in the future only to see the far left/right nightmare have taken over society I enjoyed both of them and agree with both their core messages despite being opposite ideals.

Have people really become this bad at interpreting speech?

He's not saying adults don't watch animation, he's saying that parents (generally) want to watch something a bit different when the kids aren't around. If you have a kid who's obsessed with Encanto & watches it multiple times a week, you're not likely to watch any animated shows/movies when you finally do get the TV (even if you generally enjoy them).

I haven't followed all the controversies surrounding the CEO, but this one seems like people grasping at straws for something to nitpick at.

To me this is a case of looking for a reason to hate on Bob Chapek, if Bob Iger had said the same thing people wouldn’t have even paid attention like how many of the things people complain about such as the live action remakes came from Bobby IG not Big B C although Boss Bobby I was always more conscious when speaking.

The general resentment to Big Bobby C is understandable considering he’s the type of big boss to increase profits by tightening the belt rather than looking at expanding and is in general clumsy with tactful matters but at the end of the day Disney is still making Atlanta which is better than Star Wars, Marvel and Mickey Mouse ever were!

I can't remember the last time I checked in here with my Halloween watching, but I can say I have watched the new Scream, I thought it was the best one since the second one. I also watched two more Argento films, Bird with the Crystal Plumage and Deep Red. I actually liked both of these, especially Deep Red. It has the most insane musical score I think I've ever heard? I have been watching horror movies for over two decades now and I've still never experienced anything quite like this. Every horror scene, from violent murders to stalking scenes and false scares are all set to this insane, funky, base slapping. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yu-7bbO8bE Rather than being scared I just wanted to boogey the whole time.

Oh yeah, I know who Goblin are, they ruined Suspiria for me, but absolutely made Deep Red (mostly for the wrong reasons).

I'd never seen Terminator: Dark Fate before. I was surprised I liked it. I liked a lot of the new ideas in the story. Rotten Tomato scores for Terminator movies agrees that Dark Fate was the best one in a while (better than the previous two Terminator Genesis and Terminatory Salvation),

Whenever I like a movie, Jump usually chimes in to say it's derivative. Fine, I still had fun.

@WoomyNNYes At least @me if you're gonna complain about me. ;p Hmm, derivative isn't a word I often use as I normally spell it wrong so it depends on if I'm using my phone or laptop where I can use the autocorrect.

I found Dark Fate a lot less derivative than the 3rd one which was the same thing but camper and too clean which I really disliked. I thought was Dark Fate was great, if you put it next to the first two it really holds up and I remember saying to the person next to me in the cinema as we were watching this is a lot better than I thought it would be. I do have issues with it from around when Arnie turns up as it shifts tone and become silly though. Alot of people got upset about the kid dying however I didn't really care as he was just a Macguffin as I think of these flicks as Sarah's story from the first movie. There was also a lot of people moaning about too many female characters so they were outraged about that too but they are normally the people who don't have great insight when talking about movies.

I will stand up for Genesis, it's not a great film but it was a crazy mad fun fan fiction movie until it became too crazy which I'd still take over Salvation and T3.

I know this might be weird, but Tim Miller's conduct of himself ruined Dark Fate for me. He became the cartoon version of the woke warriors the right claim exist, but actually don't.

In the last thirty years we've gone backwards. Rather than having kick ass female leads in action movies, now the whole marketing is their gender. It is no longer about the performer or the performance. They've turned gender here into pure novelty. It is the aggressively far right group that has its only non-white member stand at the front during all their conferences so they can deflect comments of racism.

Progression is when you see a woman leading an action movie and don't think about anything other than their performance or their character. That isn't to say you should be blind to race, gender, sexuality either - but rather, you see a woman in the central role and you're not saying, "hey that was pretty good... for a woman."

The way women are used here is no different than giving women predominantly love interest roles or making them wear skimpy outfits for the whole movie, it is just different shades of exploitation.

So, every time 50-year-old CIS, white man, Tim Miller waived away every criticism of this ***** ass movie with "you are just a misogynist" made me hate it that little bit more.

Got the 90's Fatal Fury OVAs on Blu-Ray recently.

Fatal Fury: Legend of the Hungry Wolf (Blu-Ray)

First saw this online sometime about 10 years ago, and decided to pick up the OVA double pack on Blu-Ray once I noticed it was available.

Based upon the fighting video game of the same name (a big competitor of Street Fighter in it's time), it very much feels like the standard martial arts flick of the time (although anime'd up a bit, obviously). Not that that's a bad thing, as while it's not the deepest story, it's good cheesy fun (I especially liked the faux "Arnie" German accent the big bad had, a theme that carries over to the followup as well). Only thing holding it up is that there's no Mai yet, lol.

Fatal Fury 2: the New Battle (Blu-Ray)

Watched on the Blu-Ray double pack (with the first OVA).

I feel about this one a lot like how I felt about the first. It's no masterpiece, but good cheesy anime martial arts fun. I don't think the core story is quite as tight as it was in it's predecessor (though that's not terribly important for a film like this), however I'll rate it a tad higher as I believe the art/animation seems to be slightly improved (and because Mai makes her appearance, naturally).

Trailer for both (couldn't find a remastered one):

I've now watched two more Argento films, Stendhal Syndrome and Four Flies. Hated both. Both were maddeningly boring.

What's everyone sticking on for Halloween night? I wanted to go for something at least a tiny bit horror and, while I couldn't find much between Netflix and Disney+ (it's either all modern horror or basically nothing at all), I did manage to find the original Predator on the latter which I'm very excited to watch. I've somehow never actually seen it before so it'll be a nice night in with my dad and sister!

I'll probably also be checking out stuff like the two Hocus Pocus films once my other sister gets back from college, 28 Days Later (apocalypse movies are my absolute jam) and maybe National Treasure which I completely forgot was on Disney+ and kind of want to give a watch to be honest since I've heard pretty good things about it.

@Pizzamorg That's not how I remember the marketing, a lot of it from what I saw (or the bits that looked good so I remembered them) was focussed on the return of Linda Hamilton as a bad arse granny. She was bloody great in it too, it's a shame there's no sequel for it as I'd love to see more of her.

As much as you dislike the idea of those silly wokers in their hippy communes taking the conversation away from the movie isn't that exactly what you're doing too, as there's 4 paragraphs on the matter but none of it is actually about the movie itself.

@Fizza Ready Or Not, The Fly, The Rocky Horror Picture Show and Fright Night are all on Disney+ I think.

@jump Definitely considering those for next year (TRHPS especially, that film's iconic).

Yeah, cause the movie sucked, sucked so hard Miller admitted the film was a mistake and apologised for his comments about misogyny. Just an absolute fail all around.