@jump 😁Yeah, but I wanted to see if you'd come along on your own, without me tagging. That's all.😁 I didn't mean that to look disrespectful. You're ok with me @jump<3
There was definitely misogyny aimed at the movie as well as racism so I'm surprised if he said they were right and apologized to them. I suspect this is one of those things were depending on if it's a lefty SJW PC safe space website or an incel basement dwelling alt right hate website it will be a different headline to the same story.
@Rambler Isn't that technically a spoiler even if it's a meme? At least you didn't spoil the ending for @Fizza where Arnie dresses up as a goat to sneak up on Predator and keeps stabbing him in the wang till it is dead!
@Pizzamorg Have you got a link to that?
There was definitely misogyny aimed at the movie as well as racism so I'm surprised if he said they were right and apologized to them. I suspect this is one of those things were depending on if it's a lefty SJW PC safe space website or an incel basement dwelling alt right hate website it will be a different headline to the same story.
Loads of places reported it, this is just the top results on Google:
@Rambler You forgot the cartoon and the live action show!!!
The weird thing to me is why is there so many Terminator films and shows that don't involve James Cameron, the guy that makes bank and created it.
@Pizzamorg Okay so the article took snippets from another article and below were the quotes. To me he's saying the movie flopped as he made a movie for himself whilst not really saying it's good or bad (although he does imply it's good by saying if it's good it wont flop but he was wrong as it did flop therefore like a maths equations he thinks it's good but that's going into silly areas) and he didn't apologize to fans who are either sexist or non sexist but talked about the online hate it got.
“I went in with the rock hard nerd belief that if I made a good movie that I wanted to see, it would do well. And I was wrong,"
“It was one of those f—king Eureka moments in a bad way because the movie tanked.”
“I think if you make a lower cost Terminator movie, a good director and movie star could make it great. It could be made with sock puppets and it could be awesome. I’d like to do a Terminator CG,”
“There was a lot of ‘get woke and go broke’ sentiment that didn’t help us, but…”
“There was a lot of issues about having three women in lead positions and all of that stuff. There is quite a toxic atmosphere around this film online, which I was really surprised at. I shouldn’t be, but I was.”
“Yeah and unfortunately, I think it is a small minority, but it’s a very vocal minority and they make a lot of noise and it’s hard. You now, I don’t dwell online on the negativity, but it’s human nature to read a little bit.”
There was also this line but it was from the time of the movie release rather than a retrospective as of now, "If you’re at all enlightened, she’ll play like gangbusters. If you’re a closet misogynist, she’ll scare the f*** out of you, because she’s tough and strong but very feminine.”
Not directly, but it is very obvious based on the comments that the aggressive "You don't like my movie you are misogynyst stance" for any legitimate criticism towards his movie was a mistake.
Again, not minimising or saying this stuff doesn't exist, but any fat white 50-year-old CIS male who calls me misogynist because I don't like their movie with women in can get *****.
@Rambler Nah, it was like an anime. I saw a clip but I thought it looked pish so I never watched it.
The worst cartoon of an 80s action movie I saw was Highlander, instead of cutting people's heads off they share information. It's a bad as it sounds!
@Pizzamorg It pretty clear to me he's talking in response to the people who are hating on the movie before it's out rather than directly talking to you and it's petty of him but presumably the "she" he is talking about is Linda Hamilton so he's not wrong as she was bad arse in it.
The thing is calling him fat and straight as you're outraged over what he said is pretty much the same as what he did or the people complaining there's now female dogs ruining Terminator is all the same silly rubbish which isn't talking about the actual movie feeding into the endless cycle. To be honest I didn't hear about what he said until you brought it up as my social webbing media algorithm knows better to show me such nonsense as I never click on it regardless if it's people celebrating or condemning the latest whatever casting so I could watch the time travelling murder robot movie without having it in the back on my mind.
@Kermit1 Nah, they both hold the sword at the same time to share the infomation with each other. You can see it in the intro of the show below. I'm pretty sure I saw the movie before the cartoon as a kid and I was outrage there were no beheadings in it!
Clancy Brown who was the baddie in the first film and is also a voice actor wasn't in the cartoon for some reason. Seems like easy casting to me.
@Pizzamorg It pretty clear to me he's talking in response to the people who are hating on the movie before it's out rather than directly talking to you and it's petty of him but presumably the "she" he is talking about is Linda Hamilton so he's not wrong as she was bad arse in it.
The thing is calling him fat and straight as you're outraged over what he said is pretty much the same as what he did or the people complaining there's now female dogs ruining Terminator is all the same silly rubbish which isn't talking about the actual movie feeding into the endless cycle. To be honest I didn't hear about what he said until you brought it up as my social webbing media algorithm knows better to show me such nonsense as I never click on it regardless if it's people celebrating or condemning the latest whatever casting so I could watch the time travelling murder robot movie without having it in the back on my mind.
I actually thought out of the trio Mackenzie Davis was the only good one of the three. Beyond base nostalgia Hamilton did nothing for me here with their performance.
Also, to be clear, I am not outraged at all. I just find his reductionism by Miller really damaging to the wider conversation. All he does with this kind of conduct is dilute an important conversation. Everyone loses.
I tend to try and stay away from this stuff as well, I don't care about all the PC pandering, or just stuff crowds of trolls claim is PC pandering as a negative thing when it is just casting, but this was everywhere at the time the movie was released and just really rubbed me the wrong way.
I could have maybe ignored the insults if the film was good, but the film was absolute trash and it wasn't trash because women were protagonists in it, I don't give a ***** about the protagonists gender.
What's everyone sticking on for Halloween night? I wanted to go for something at least a tiny bit horror and, while I couldn't find much between Netflix and Disney+ (it's either all modern horror or basically nothing at all), I did manage to find the original Predator on the latter which I'm very excited to watch. I've somehow never actually seen it before so it'll be a nice night in with my dad and sister!
Just finished watching it there and wow: that was probably the most tense hour and a half I've ever witnessed. The start is a bit slow and the end is a bit ridiculous (you're telling me that, when they've spent the entire movie maticulously stalking and efficiently picking off every other member that NOW is the time the Predator toys with one of them? That's a bit of a stretch if you ask me) but god that middle. THAT MIDDLE BRO. Perhaps the most expertly done tension I've ever seen: constantly keeping it up in the air if/when the crew is getting picked off, some of the goriest killings even by modern standards and the constant sense of unease between the cinematography and the setting all mesh together to form such a damn compelling watch. I probably won't watch it again due to knowing how everything unfolds but man that was one hell of an experience. I'll probably leave 2 (and the rest of the seemingly endless pile of sequels) for a later time but I thoroughly enjoyed this one and it was definitely the right call for Halloween this year.
Also, I'm just going to say it: I am VERY glad that Hawkins was the first to go. I don't think I could've handled another 'kitty' joke after the first two.
@Fizza My mom and I are going to watch one of the Hocus Pocus movies tonight. Yesterday, it was the live action Scooby Doo movie while we were working on a Halloween themed gingerbread haunted house, and DreamWorks Spooky Stores, which included two Shrek shorts and a Monsters vs. Aliens short.
Right now, just watching some My Little Pony Halloween episodes, but they're not movies. Still Halloween related.
The resident Trolls superfan! Saw Trolls Band Together via early access and absolutely loved it!
I've finally finished the Nightmare on Elm Street movies series (not including New Nightmare or the reboot). I watched 1 a year and finally got to 6. I'd definitely say they were better than I was expecting, as someone who used to be very skeptical of horror movies in general. Unfortunately it traded a lot(?) of decent character writing to get more creative in the latter 3 movies. It's a real shame because they had some pretty creative, bold ideas in those latter movies all things considered, but the characters got worse and the series' problems and clichés stopped being tolerable.
I'd say I probably liked 6 more than 5 or 4, but objectively its almost certainly the worst of them, its very stupid, and only sometimes in the fun ways. (3 is definitely my favorite)
Just rewatched Mr. Vampire. Still holds up. Would I have appreciated this as much if I hadn't just waded through so much Argento stodge? Maybe not. But it was a joy either way. I am really not surprised child me was watching this on repeat back in the day.
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