Topic: Coronavirus outbreak

I'd say the vast majority of people in their 60's and 70's are still perfectly functional human beings.

@Eel

No, I wasn't assuming that, or implying that either.

You can self-segregate wherever you happen to live. Obviously if you have multiple generations living in the same household, you'll need to make certain exceptions or workarounds in that case. In countries where that's incredibly common (like India), this approach would obviously fall apart.

But both my parents are over 65 for example, and they've deliberately avoided seeing anyone else except other close family members. The approach we've used is to make it so anyone who regularly goes out in public (and therefore might have the virus) just meets my parents in outdoor situations with extreme social distancing. So we'll have these weird looking family get-togethers where we're walking down the local canal with me and my brother walking about 3 metres away from our parents. Or sitting outside a cafe to eat, but we'll sit on different benches several metres away from them.

@Dezzy I know what you mean Very much looking forward to a vaccine.

@Xyphon22 How exactly do you think the food stuffs get to the store or drive thrus that you're using? Remember all those meat processing facilities that had numerous cases? They wouldn't have had to be at work if people didn't eat. I know what you and Octane are saying, and it really comes down to using sound precautions and risk mitigation. I.E., washing your hands, covering your nose and mouth, and keep to your own personal space. Things that people should have been doing since they were a child in order to remain sanitary. I agree one hundred percent. Some folks just have more ridiculous ideas.
"China shut a city down and did great"
"Force people over 65 off to the soylent green homes"
"drink water ever 15 minutes"
"If you don't have symptoms, you're not sick"

When I said immobile I was talking specifically about people in care homes. Not everyone over 65. My granddad was still travelling across the world at age 85.

Trump and Biden should probably both be in care homes though.

I'm a nurse and it's just incredible how many ignorant people are out there. From my own experience arguing with families about this and having patients tell me I don't know what I'm talking about and then turning down the hall and dealing with someone DYING of Covid is just insane. It makes me want to quit my job every day. The government is making our jobs more difficult by feeding lies and false information to the people and it spreads like wildfire. I have people telling me it's the 5G towers, that the vaccines will have nanites that will control your brains. That Bill Gates created Covid to profit off of vaccines. Some times I go home and cry to my wife who is also a nurse.

Wear the masks. Period. I can do it for 12 hours a day WITH asthma, neckbeard Johnny and mid-life crisis Karen can do it for 30 minutes in a store. If it's hard for you to breathe in a mask you either need to get something with thinner material or get something with a carbon filter. It also takes endurance training, trust me, during nursing school I thought I was going to die in a mask. Also, stop wearing gloves in public. Our government has NO information on proper PPE training. You have to change your gloves literally after you touch something. People will use their phones, wipe their hair, touch everything in the store and think they're safe. They're spreading it more that way. Use hand sanitizer often, and it's readily available now. I'm seeing it in the dollar store. Wash your cloth masks daily and throw away disposables after 2 hours of use. If you don't you're literally just as bad as the people not wearing one. With all the misinformation at this point masks are just a social courtesy and aren't really stopping it as much because you have swaths of people refusing to use one and having "covid parties" and "anti-mask rallies". These are just scared ignorant people who can't or won't understand what's going on. I took micro-biology so I know what's going on, but the vast majority haven't. The government seriously sucks and we now know at least the US can not handle a national crisis ever.

I'm a nurse, but a hardcore gamer at heart and I love how the gaming community is mostly sane on this issue, but sorry for the rant.

@ivory_soul Yeah, this business with anti-knowledge, and preference for disinformation is a serious problem. I have to battle disinformation with my parents so often, it's crazy. They prefer chain email forwards for their info. They haven't been in school since the late 60's, and think my Bio major is just some phony nonsense. It's absolutely astonishing how much they don't want to actually learn.

My dad's sister is a doctor. Her two kids are doctors. My parents could ask them anything, any time, but nope. Email forwards and talk radio.

I'm really looking forward to some vaccines!! **crossing fingers**

@Octane Ah, don't worry about it. Grand Cheeto said it would jut go away magically anyway. Huzzah!

I wanted to find a way to cut myself off and play it safe when I got back to the US, but within seconds of arriving, all my family just said to hell with it and hugged me before I could even suggest not to... So, there's that.

@Heavyarms55 Ouch. Try to stay save regardless. I hope you're not in one of the bad areas in the US.

@Heavyarms55 They probably think like my mom. She is 68, has a history of pneumonia, and her immune system is weak after the shock of my dad dying in early March (not from COVID), so she has been extra careful to isolate and stay safe. But to her, "family germs" don't count. We currently live in Tennessee, one of the worst states for it, but we are originally from Las Vegas, one of the few places that is probably even worse. Despite that, my brother decided to take his entire 9-person family on an airplane to go on vacation back to Vegas and California a couple of weeks ago. We vowed to stay away from them for at least 2 weeks after they got back, but my mom was having dinner with (some of) them and riding in cars for hours within a week at most. Because "family germs." Gotta love it.

@Xyphon22 Some people are just willing to take the risks. :/

@Octane will do sir.

Blood clots. I think I have one.

I started feeling sudden throbbing pain in my left forearm, The kind where you start shaking your arm and slapping it to make it go away, and then it would go away 10 minutes later or so. Then it would happen again in my other arm the next day. Then again in my left arm yesterday, only that time it also brought about some lightheadedness, and although the arm pain went away 30 min later, the lightheadedness has not entirely gone away since.

Now I took today off work, But I’m very hesitant to go to urgent care because I have a phobia of going to doctors and learning of something seriously wrong with you. If I sit down it kind of goes away but if I get up and walk even for a minute I kind of start feeling lightheaded again.

I’m no doctor but the only thing that seems to line up with these symptoms is a blood clot or plaque buildup that broke loose. And now I’m reading there’s a high correlation between people who have contracted coronavirus and blood clots. I didn’t know about this until today when I was reading up on it – I had already determined blood clot was my suspicion before reading those reports. The reports just reinforced what I already suspected.

Has anyone ever felt these kinds of symptoms? I’ve been over Covid for... probably two months now, maybe one month, it’s hard to recall. And most of the reports cited correlation with extreme cases, and not only extreme cases but extreme cases while they were still sick. I had a mild case and I’ve been over it for sometime but I find it incredibly coincidental. And maybe it is coincidence- it’s difficult to ascertain the probability of developing such a condition by random chance two months after contracting the disease from a pandemic which is now known to highly correlate with that very condition. There’s also the fact I drink coffee all day long and never water- dehydration can contribute to thicker blood which can lead to clotting, so that may be a contributing factor.

Started taking aspirin, 325mg daily 3 days ago. Also started taking the vitamin C and D, Quercetin and EGCg since I figured it can’t hurt, and I had it left over from Covid. But I ordered some Nattokinase, Bromelain, Ginkgo Biloba and Omega-3 fish oil. I also ate a full piece of garlic (shown to dissolve blood clots) and some Turmeric, a spice which is shown to prevent clots. I also started drinking lots of water.

Most of the herbal remedies are shown to help prevent, not necessarily treat. With that said the research I’ve seen shows the doctors often prescribed anti-coagulants such as Warfarin which don’t actually break down the clots but do prevent them from getting bigger and prevents other clots from forming, which gives your body time to break down the clot naturally. There are a class of drugs that can actually dissolve the clots but they are typically reserved for emergencies. I don’t know if I even have a clot but assuming I do, I don’t know how serious it is. But I figured I would ask just in case anyone else has ever dealt with something like this.

@JaxonH None of us here are medical specialists AFAIK, so visit a doctor ASAP. Blood clots can be life threatening if they end up in vital organs.

Did you end up getting tested positive in the end?

Also make sure that all the meds you're taking don't cause adverse reactions when combining them, because that's quite a list you've got there.

@JaxonH I second Octane, you need to seek medical attention. The symptoms you describe can also be shared with stroke, vertigo, and vestibular issues. You really need to see a physician.
A blood clot can lead to death within as little as an hour, depending on location. It can also lead to nerve, muscle, and arterial damage if left untreated.

Seek medical attention.

@JaxonH Yeah, I'm not an expert on the subject, but my wife is a nurse working on it here in our area. And there are proving to be a lot of side effects to contracting coronavirus, even if you are asymptomatic. Blood clotting is definitely one of them and people are dying from that, so definitely get checked out.

to tho$e wi$hing for a $econd $timulus package:
america suck$.
thi$ country doe$nt care about you and it $how$.
yer gonna be waiting until october.
conveniently around election time.

were about to spread the virus more in america.
labor day coming up.
people without face masks.
kissing.
beaches.
inviting yer drunk uncle over to barbecue.
coughing on everyone.
kids going back to school.
at least the weather at the beach was great.
and man, drunk coughing uncle sure does know how to grill some ribs.
its the holiday to die for.

This planet is doomed! Doomed i tell ya! What gets me is how gloves aren't required while using touch screen devices but man you better wear those masks! How do they know the guy who just used that ATM machine or coke machine didn't just have his hands all over his infected face right after he coughed?

I've been to several restaurants in indiana and it seems none of them are enforcing the mask rule. Not a single one. Walmart and other department stores or the pharmacy does and they've even got the signs saying no entry without masks but food places be like, do whatever the hell you want! They're getting tired of being screamed at or threatened with violence. So really what are we gaining here?

People are going to do whatever they feel like. Enjoy trick or treating as doctors or Ninja's this year cause that's all you're going to see on halloween. We're all screwed!

@Zeldafan79
And what is your effort to keep you stay survive rather than whining about the pandemic??
Wear your mask when go outside, wash your hand oftenly and stop complaining!

@Zeldafan79 Gloves are pointless. They instill a false sense of safety without offering any additional protection. The virus doesn't get to you through your fingers, and you can infect yourself with gloves just as well as with your bare hands, so I'm not sure what wearing them would accomplish. Just keep a bottle of sanitizer with you in case you need to handle a door or touchscreen, and it'll more effective than running around with gloves on.