The only thing that should stop Nintendo putting a game on the eshop is the quality of the gameplay, not some religious themes. If there was a pro religion game that was as fun as Isaac I'd totally be screaming for Nintendo to put it in their shop. If Isaac sucked then it shouldn't be allowed. If it's fun then it should. Nintendo quality standards and all that
Don't think there are really any quality standards any more or loads of stuff wouldn't be available like that Secret Agent File : Miami thing.
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You are right that if Nintendo allows BoI on the eShop then anything else should be allowed on in the eShop, keeping in mind the quality control can still prevent plenty from appearing. Is there a game that is trying to get on eShop but Nintendo won't allow it because it has positive religious themes? But we are talking about should(s) and shouldn't(s). Overall it is Nintendo's choice. If they allow BoI on the eShop all it means is that they allowed a popular indie game on their service. Some might take it as a political stand or that Nintendo is anti-religion, but in reality all it means is that Nintendo allowed a game on their marketplace. This shouldn't be taken as anything more than a game release.
Not to my knowledge. My point is that if BoI gets on the eshop, there could be a wave of religious games, and as much as I love Nintendo, their quality control isn't always great. Even aside from low quality games, though, it would open the doors to religious themed generic games that aren't bad, but aren't good either. The eshop could end up a very different place than it is today, especially if the religious games saw success, and I'd imagine many would.
I'm not sure they would have a choice. As I mentioned before, they might be legally obligated to offer the same opportunity to other religious content. To allow anti-Christian content on the eshop while blocking Christian content (or religious content in general) could be seen as discriminatory (and rightly so, imo).
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You are right that if Nintendo allows BoI on the eShop then anything else should be allowed on in the eShop, keeping in mind the quality control can still prevent plenty from appearing. Is there a game that is trying to get on eShop but Nintendo won't allow it because it has positive religious themes? But we are talking about should(s) and shouldn't(s). Overall it is Nintendo's choice. If they allow BoI on the eShop all it means is that they allowed a popular indie game on their service. Some might take it as a political stand or that Nintendo is anti-religion, but in reality all it means is that Nintendo allowed a game on their marketplace. This shouldn't be taken as anything more than a game release.
Not to my knowledge. My point is that if BoI gets on the eshop, there could be a wave of religious games, and as much as I love Nintendo, their quality control isn't always great. Even aside from low quality games, though, it would open the doors to religious themed generic games that aren't bad, but aren't good either. The eshop could end up a very different place than it is today, especially if the religious games saw success, and I'd imagine many would.
I'm not sure they would have a choice. As I mentioned before, they might be legally obligated to offer the same opportunity to other religious content. To allow anti-Christian content on the eshop while blocking Christian content (or religious content in general) could be seen as discriminatory (and rightly so, imo).
Please stop talking about religion. You keep claiming this game is anti-christian when that is far from certain. It is very debatable. We understand, you don't like the game.
Not to my knowledge. My point is that if BoI gets on the eshop, there could be a wave of religious games, and as much as I love Nintendo, their quality control isn't always great. Even aside from low quality games, though, it would open the doors to religious themed generic games that aren't bad, but aren't good either. The eshop could end up a very different place than it is today, especially if the religious games saw success, and I'd imagine many would.
I'm not sure they would have a choice. As I mentioned before, they might be legally obligated to offer the same opportunity to other religious content. To allow anti-Christian content on the eshop while blocking Christian content (or religious content in general) could be seen as discriminatory (and rightly so, imo).
And I am done with this. You keep insisting that BoI is making a statement while no one else thinks so. This is getting dull and repetitive and we have even been asked to stop taking about religion. If you wish to talk about the game and even if you to talk about why the game shouldn't be on the eShop (outside of the religion argument) then I will discuss it further, but until then I am just going to be reading this thread until I get around to playing the whole game (something you should consider doing, just so you understand what you are arguing about) and can have a full opinion on the game. Until then, I wouldn't mind this game and possibly Super Meat Boy on 3DS or Wii U.
People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...
Those people were fired for not doing their jobs according to the the requirements put forth by their employers. The bakery closed due to fines for discrimination and bigotry. The citations are not from unbiased sources, either.
I won't respond any longer as this thread has become derailed and is now your pulpit.
I'm a little confused. Since the mod's last warning, I've been talking about the game. I have mentioned religion, but religion is inherent to BoI. Even the phrase "Binding of Isaac" refers to a Biblical event. I thought the mod's warning referred to the tangent(s) we were on about privilege, Christianity, etc, which hasn't been continued, and I won't be continuing.
And I am done with this. You keep insisting that BoI is making a statement while no one else thinks so. This is getting dull and repetitive and we have even been asked to stop taking about religion. If you wish to talk about the game and even if you to talk about why the game shouldn't be on the eShop (outside of the religion argument) then I will discuss it further, but until then I am just going to be reading this thread until I get around to playing the whole game (something you should consider doing, just so you understand what you are arguing about) and can have a full opinion on the game. Until then, I wouldn't mind this game and possibly Super Meat Boy on 3DS or Wii U.
I'm not the only one that thinks so. There were several others here who agreed, but left the thread. As I mentioned above the quote, I don't think a game based in religion can really be discussed without mention of religion. That would be like trying to discuss civil rights without mentioning racism. I also think it can be discussed without attacking religion or the religious.
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Please stop talking about religion. You keep claiming this game is anti-christian when that is far from certain. It is very debatable. We understand, you don't like the game.
Isn't that why we were discussing it? Because it is debatable? You're basically saying "it's up for debate so stop debating"...
Also, didn't that article you linked make out BoI as more about religion and less about abuse? The writer seemed to think the mom was getting a vision from God, and wasn't insane.
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I'm not the only one that thinks so. There were several others here who agreed, but left the thread. As I mentioned above the quote, I don't think a game based in religion can really be discussed without mention of religion. That would be like trying to discuss civil rights without mentioning racism. I also think it can be discussed without attacking religion or the religious.
Sure, but we aren't talking about a social movement or societal problem, we are here to talk about a video game. The religious themes are interesting but we've talked about it enough now. So leave religion aside and maybe talk about game play, graphics, etc.
everyone is tired of us talking about religion so let's stop. We could go on forever and I love talking about these things, but this is not the appropriate forum.
Hey guys, if we can't handle this thread, we won't have it. It's that simple.
I'm pretty sure we've had this same discussion more than a few times already. When it's officially announced for release, then we can try this again. Until then, let's find something else to do. :3
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