1. DPPt- DPPt are the most well rounded games in the series, especially Platinum which improved upon DP's regional dex. I'm struggling to come up with any kind of flaw in the experience.
2. RSE- RSE does a lot of things right, especially in terms of region design, but it's held back from being truly great with a relative lack of post game content and a poorly balanced regional dex.
3. SM- SM made a lot of great changes to the series that really revitalized the formula. What keeps it from beating DPPt and RSE is the linearity, there's no excuse for regional design that restrictive when you have a detailed map of the region telling you exactly where to go.
4. GSCHGSS- I have a lot of nostalgia for this one since my first game was Silver, but the game definitely has its flaws. Two regions is great and all until you see that the two regions essentially have half the content of a normal region, and like all of the older games dex variety and storyline weren't really that great. Still though, it has a lot of charm and HGSS gave it enough content to be enjoyable.
5. BW2- BW2 was a vast improvement over BW1, but linearity also holds this one back. Also, I was expecting slightly more content in its post game (although what it already has definitely isn't bad).
6. FRLG- Really not much of an improvement over the original, it jumps up solely because of the post game content. It's still fairly low because it left a lot of issues with the original experience intact.
7. XY- Like SM, XY made a lot of neat changes to the game (albeit on a smaller scale). Unlike SM, it really didn't have much after you beat the game. XY really needed a third version/sequel, I could've put it a lot higher if it had one.
8. BW1- I want to put this game on the bottom so badly, it broke a lot of things that didn't really need fixing. Region design was made super linear, a lot of useful gameplay features were trimmed, and only allowing you the new Pokemon was a dumb decision. Overall it started the annoying trend of trying to casualize everything and the series has been worse off for it.
9. RBY- This game has aged soooo poorly. The game is shockingly buggy (although some of them are fairly amusing), the Pokemon variety is pathetic by modern standards, the areas are all flat, short, and blocky and you can tell they're from a 20 year old game, and the storyline is virtually nonexistent.
Haven't played ORAS, but as incomplete as it is it can't beat DPPt. I don't think anything can for that matter, with the whole casual trend it's likely nothing will ever be as good as those games again (except for remakes obviously, and even then look at how ORAS treated Emerald content).
im having hard time ranking but here are some thoughts ++
+i will always be partial to hoenn and sinnoh, to me those regions just had a lot to them for exploring and just felt so vast (and I actually really loved all the surfing in hoenn and feel kind of gipped on there hardly being much to surf and no diving in alola of all places)
+I feel music wise the battle themes in gen 5 were fire, and while the designs were a mixed bag there were some cool ones. I will say though that gen 5 kind of started this trend of the games becoming more linear (unova literally is point a to point b) and this kind of stayed in kalos, and alola somewhat as well.
i definitely like sun and moon miles better than x and y - which were pretty forgettable to be honest with you . .
@TheLZdragon People tend to forget something: opinions.
Really, if the guy enjoys the first generation and considers them better then so be it. Maybe he likes sprites more, maybe he loves the bit sounds, the first designs, Giovanni and team rocket, the more simple gameplay, the towns and cities, the gym leaders, etc. He can have a lot of personal reasons.
Personally, the more mechanics, story, upgraded graphics and pokemon designs it gets, the better.
@TheLZdragon The thing about opinions is that they are subjective, so terms like "wrong" and "right" are just irrelevant ragarding them. but I can see your point, RBY were the worst pokemon games in my opinion. gen 4 and 5 were great, and every other gen was just better than gen 1.
I have to give credit to gen 1 for one thing - it started the whole thing and as the first pokemon game it did shine bright. but compared to the games that came after it? its just not in the same league
@TheLZdragon Awful? I agree about enjoying the new games more in my case, but the core gameplay is still the same and those games play the same as ever in that regard. Yes, it has improved, but the original games still have responsive gameplay. There's no need to tell people that they have nostalgia glasses just because they enjoy them more. Sure, some just hold on to their nostalgia but there's people that have upopular yet valid opinions to justify their preferences. Will you tell me that you have never preferred a first entry over a sequel despite the improved graphics? It could be the story, the art style, the character designs, the simple gameplay or whatever reason that makes you legitimately have a better time with it. If you want to think that ok, but I don't see the need of invalidating someone's opinion just because you don't share it.
1. Psychic types have no real weakness
2. TMs don't have names
3. Kanto is the smallest region next to Johto
4. Most of the new features aren't seen in RBY including the ones above
Just to start this off. The series has moved far forward since the originals
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1. Special Attack and Special Defense aren't separated
2. No physical/special split
3. No breeding
4. No trainer rematches
5. No postgame other than catching Pokemon
6. No held items
7. Barely any Bug and Dragon-type moves
The list goes on and on.
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The thing about gen 1 is that, however outdated it is compared to any other gen in the series, it is still the starting point of it all. in the gameboy era, when you grabbed and played pokemon red it was as thrilling as it is now to grab and play pokemon sun and moon, if not even more. does it mean the games are better? in my opinion of course not, its my least favorite gen, but I have to give it credit for what it represented in its era and time
about XY and sunmoon, I can say only this - sun and moon are far more polished and well written, and still... pokemon XY feel like the "3DS pokemon adventure" I would recommend for anyone. heck, XY just feel more pokemon to me - not saying theyre better, but... you know what I mean XD
@VoltageX I agree.It's pretty simple really, it's not about the isssues, just about how much you enjoy those games and you can't tell someone that he/she is wrong just for enjoying them more. Sure, the first games have those issues, but not everyone cares the same way about them, just as not everyone enjoys them the same way. It's nice to see someone that appreciates X/Y too.
@TheLZdragon@LegendOfPokemon As I said, there are many aspects that people enjoy them, for example:
1- I think the cities and towns are more memorable than in most of the sequels.
2- If the region is the smallest, it doesn't mean it's necessarily a bad thing since many people prefer quality over quantity and besides, even if it's the smallest region it's big enough to give lots hours of fun to many people.
3-Not everyone cares about breeding. In fact, many people find that part tedious and just focused on catched pokemon. As a competitive player I disagree since while it can be tedious, it definitely feels rewarding, yet I can understand why some persons have no interest in the competitive scene and breeding in general.
4- Balance issues don't mean much to many, specially since not everyone is into competitive battles.
5- Attack and special attack being one and other mechanics not existing yet make the gameplay more simple, something that some persons enjoy more. This pretty much includes, held items, less moves, etc.
6-The soundtrack is great, even if it's bit sounds.
7- Many enjoy team Rocket and Geovanni than most villains in the sequels. Personally, I do feel the same in that regard.
To me, they aren't the best anymore, but I can understand if someone enjoys them more even if I don't agree with that opinion. It's pretty simple really, you don't have to agree with them, just understand that they aren't wrong for enjoying them more. At this point if you can't understand such a simple concept I can't do more to explain it. Yes, in my case, I agree with some of the issues you mentioned, but there's people that don't care about them.
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