Topic: Pokémon Sun & Moon - Discussion & Speculation

Rhydon the one and only original Pokemon. And he's ground.

What's even sadder is that the Pokedex 3D models look nicer than the main games.

That's because Pokedex 3D only needs to render those models alone (and the background), in the case of the games you have two-six monsters, detailed backgrounds, moves, trainers, real gameplay, etc.

I also kinda wish they'd bring back the Pokedex layout from HGSS. Looked better than a plain list imo. Don't know why they went back to the list in BW (though at least it uses the touch screen unlike DPPt).

Same with the bag actually. That was a pain to use in DPPt.

I was a bit indifferent to the pokedex in HGSS.

I loved the pokedex in BW2 though, the habitat list made it a lot more interesting, it's one of the few games where I actually completed the regional pokedex.

I disagree. The Pokedex 3D models have this... weird off coloring that just makes them look gross. I much prefer the cel-shaded models that the games use, they're so vastly superior it isn't funny. The only issue I have is that a lot of them end up looking weird when the camera isn't zoomed in on them, but that's not a problem with the models, it's a problem with the 3DS itself.

I was hoping the models for x/y would be on par with the ones in super mystery dungeon.

My Bird Jesus joke was excellent: admit it.

If that leak is true, I kinda lost interest in getting Litten as my starter......it just looks like some Saber....and we have plenty of those types.

@Socar What leak?

@Octane The leak that reveals their final evolution?

@Socar Source?

That's a far too subjective question, you have the dependable and solid ketchup, my personal favourite BBQ, peri peri is good too but it really comes down to what you're having it with.

@Tsurii
Grass / Ground
Fire
Water / Fighting

Seems plausible to me.

@Octane We have no reason to believe that will be the final types though. Since they have added the images for Ground and Fighting it is more plausible to think the next Pokémon revealed will be of those types. The starter evos aren't usually revealed until about a month before release, so it would be strange for them to add the images because of something they will probably reveal in 4 months instead of what they'll reveal in June.

@AlliMeadow I know, but it's still better than anyone's personal guesses.

I would be so disappointed if the Grass/Flying became something else. There are so few grass flying, I think they could do something special with it.

The funny thing here is that if it does change to Grass/Ground, it'll still be 4x weak to Ice.

I find the idea of the Flying type being dropped slightly hard to swallow as well. Not that I refuse it as a possibility, but until there's an official confirmation to back it up, I'm keeping an open mind.

The whole point of starter Pokemon is that they grow with you, and they get built up in a relatively logical and obvious manner. Each evolution stage generally represents a clear progression from its previous form, and even when they don't (arguably, Blaziken, Samurott and Serperior), nothing particularly drastic happens with their typings.

We've had starters that gain secondary types during their evolutionary paths since Gen 1, but they've always been single types to begin with, so the extra type has been more of a 'cool new addition' rather than a heavy change of the Pokemon's characteristics.

There've been lots of other Pokemon with evolutionary changes that are so radical that it's part of their novelty (Slaking, Scizor, Bellosom, Shedinja, etc.) and others that change from one dual type to another without losing too much of their original identity (e.g. Steelix), but Grass/Flying to Grass/Ground strikes me as quite a heavy change for a starer, that would break the usual sense of progression. But we'll see.

I put the earlier song on YouTube as opposed to Soundcloud, so now it should embed properly. If people are fed up of me putting up non-original works/advertising (although I don't stand to gain financially), then please let me know.

Well, it would be unique as the one and only dual-type starter who changes its second type upon evolution.

The starter evos weren't revealed for x/y until release day.

I don't really buy the supposed "type leak". It doesn't make sense for Rowlet's typing to change from grass/flying to grass/ground. Then again, I take rumors with a pile of salt.

Plus, part of me is still hoping on Litten's final evolution being fire/dark.