Topic: Pokémon Sun & Moon - Discussion & Speculation

@Octane The chinese one, same as the cucumber, predicted Alolan Rattata/Raticate (Dark), Butterfree (Bug/psy), Abra/Kadrabra/Alakazam (Fighting), Nidoking/Queen (Poison/Fighting), Growlith/Arcanine (water), and Doduo and Dodrio (Fighting/Flying)

Those are the only ones mentioned, I find the chinese one a bit coincidental but I'm 100% convinced with the trailer now due to the more screenshots we're getting and some too good quality to disprove, the wishiwashi's ability video getting taken down shows too much priority urgency to simply ignore too.

EDIT: yea, seems odd, kinda the same thing as evolution when you think about it. Maybe they just want a reason to keep its movepool the exact same. My only concern is how useless that ability would be in PvP games.

Just imagine dropping this thing off at a daycare, it leveling up and suddenly the daycare is filled up with fish..

EDIT2: @DefHalan I never use spoilers but there is always that one guy who checks the forum complaining about spoiling the game when there is literally nothing else to expect from a pre-release thread lmao. Contest to see who slips up first?

Alo-Meowth looks better in-game.

aaaannnnndddd gg

@MegaBeedrill I know that list of supposed Alolan forms, and they could very well be true, but they are most certainly not a part of the original leak. There's a transcript of the original conversation on Smogon, and it doesn't mention the types of new Alolan forms at all. So I'm not sure if that is something that was later added by someone else or whether that's from the same source or not.

At least the animation looks cool;

So it can happen mid battle...

Maybe it works like;

Every wishiwashi changes at a unqiue and different level. You have to guess which level this thing will actually change at, and like a primal evolution, it just goes back to normal when in your ball then changes when sent out.

This would be competitively interesting... since you'd have to grind and breed for a wishiwashi that would change form at level 50/100, when it gets all its competitive moves or breed all it's parents competitive moveset bar tms onto it.

Or it basically just changes when it levels up during a battle which is disabled in pvp games... darn.

It seems it is his ability, so at the beginning of a match/when he is sent out his ability activates and he becomes stronger. Maybe there are ways to disable a Pokemon's ability in some way which would leave him in his weak state. That could be interesting

@DefHalan How to bait and destroy a wishiwashi

Step 1: Find a fire type to bait it to switch into like chandelure
Step 2: Give it an Everstone
Step 3: Use trick

@MegaBeedrill Everstone just stops it from evolving, not activating its ability

@DefHalan Maybe that's the catch. Worry Seed that monster fish and he turns into the most frail and weakest Pokémon, like a water-type Sunkern; completely useless.

But what if another Pokemon skill swaps with it...

Will they.... School?

OMG!!! This pokemon is going to be the best/worst thing to have in competitions lol

@Meowpheel Skill Swap doesn't work on Stance Change and Zen Mode, so I don't think it'll work on this new ability.

That's a relief then.

Imagine a school of cresselias.

When you thought doublade only had two swords...

I hope that we will still get a dolphin Pokemon. I'm afraid the Wishiwashi school form somehow could have gotten mistaken as a dolphin in the leak...

...I think it's in the best interests for my brain to avoid most of those spoiler tags until the reveal tomorrow night. XD

There's over three months left to deal with all of this teasing....

These new pokemon all look really good for a change. I'm scared to see what "Innards Out" means, though.

It's possible the entire video wasn't leaked.

Yeah, I just realized that haha.