I have both system (the 3DS almost 3 times ) and i have to say that the 3DS has FAR more appeal than the Vita:
Memory Card space is a huge pain in the behind on the vita. The cards are extremely overpriced and offer not nearly enough space. The main problem is, that Vita games can get quite big (2GB+) and the actual game cards are a hassle to switch on the go compared to the 3DS. Also, the Vita binds save files to the actual software. Deleting the game automaticly deletes your progress with it, so you are forced to back up games on your PC or use the PS+ exclusive feature of uploading save files to the cloud.
The game library is more or less a joke, especially outside of the US (the german PSN store is pretty barren compared to the US store). Many games are optainable on a PS3 which is a cheaper investment overall (bigger library, bluray player if you need one etc) Although i wont deny that the system has some really good exclusives, but not nearly enough to make up for the install costs (system+memory card+game and maybe the PS+ subscription)
These are the two major downpoints of the system. It all comes down to preference and tolerance for the install price in the end. I enjoy my 3DS way more than my vita, but it has nothing to do with the system itself but with the offered library of games.
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I think the closest you'll ever get to 5.1 on a handheld is a center speaker with the current stereo and virtual decoders. I know the GamePad and 3DS have surround sound options. How far that goes is anyone's guess. I was looking for a virtual surround sound headset that worked over a 3.5mm connection, but I'm fairly confident that thet don't really exist unless the work is coming off of the computer to create a simulation. I don't think that's the case.
Plus, the .1 doesn't ever really exist in comparison to a home setup. That's actually why I prefer my Wii U over the 3DS. I have more full games on my Wii U than my 3DS XL...
Everything else you said would probably be the best bet. Maybe not the projector thing, unless they allowed control input from another controller. I honestly find it kind of sad that we basically kind of already have an idea of what a new Nintendo handheld would look like. Hopefully it's not that cut and dry.
From a statistical standpoint the 3DS has a much better library. Same reasoning as to why the Wii had the worst library when removing personal preference. (See how I don't change logic to benefit a different company, crazy I know.)
Well I heard about a text chat app for the 3DS in a Nintendolife article a while back. Have not heard any news about it since. Regard less, this is not all that much a big concern for me. It's not like this feature is a glaring flaw that the 3DS lacks. It is a flaw but can be overlooked and you could even work around it if you are so inclined.
The Vita actually has the 3DS beat in quite a few categories imo. I've owned my 3DS for a few months now and don't have a Vita but I have been able to handle one for quite a while due to my friends owning Vitas. For one, the Vita feels better in my hand than my 3DS. Its also much easier to switch apps on the Vita. I was pretty impressed at how fast I could go from the internet, to a game, and back. And the resolution, an actual account system, and being region free are also pretty obvious as well.
However the 3DS has a more notable library of games. Whether the games are better or not comes down to opinions, but there is no Pokemon, Monster Hunter, Zelda, Animal Crossing, or Mario Kart on the Vita. Those games are legit system sellers and that's why the install base for the 3DS is higher. Memory card prices aren't helping the Vita either.
I have both system (the 3DS almost 3 times ) and i have to say that the 3DS has FAR more appeal than the Vita:
Memory Card space is a huge pain in the behind on the vita. The cards are extremely overpriced and offer not nearly enough space. The main problem is, that Vita games can get quite big (2GB+) and the actual game cards are a hassle to switch on the go compared to the 3DS. Also, the Vita binds save files to the actual software. Deleting the game automaticly deletes your progress with it, so you are forced to back up games on your PC or use the PS+ exclusive feature of uploading save files to the cloud.
The game library is more or less a joke, especially outside of the US (the german PSN store is pretty barren compared to the US store). Many games are optainable on a PS3 which is a cheaper investment overall (bigger library, bluray player if you need one etc) Although i wont deny that the system has some really good exclusives, but not nearly enough to make up for the install costs (system+memory card+game and maybe the PS+ subscription)
These are the two major downpoints of the system. It all comes down to preference and tolerance for the install price in the end. I enjoy my 3DS way more than my vita, but it has nothing to do with the system itself but with the offered library of games.
That's what I have said and am saying now, It doesn't matter how powerful the system is, it all matters on the games and 3DS just has lots of them. Even when comparing DS and PSP, DS won because of the amount of games it had(Or still has depending on when Nintendo ends DS production).
Even so, say that the Vita does end up selling better than 3DS. That still wouldn't matter because of it still being to expensive with its memory cards, games that are 90% multiplatform and games that no one knows about. Especially when coming to exclusives which Nintendo always does best.
The only thing exclusive to Sony would be Crash and Sly Cooper to me atleast.
I know a lot of people love the Vita but the sales thing shouldn't matter to them because as long as Sony hasn't ended the production yet, it doesn't matter as long as they love the system and enjoy their games, it doesn't. I didn't crib so much about the gamecube not selling well and here I am loving everything about the system and now I miss it so much......
In the end, the two devices offer a difference experience. If you compare the library you can easily see this.
I tend to grab to my Vita for "console experience on the go", while I play on my 3DS for typical handheld and Nintendo experience in the broadest sense.
Having said this, the Vita isn't even scratching the surface when it comes to platform success and diverse software library, from that perspective the Vita is no match for the 3DS. 2013 was a bit of a let down for the Vita, while it was an utterly superb year for the 3DS.
Ah a love these debates on whats a better console etc etc, in my opinion a console is only as good as the games that are on it, pure and simple, and most if not all systems have some great games, so for the best experience in gaming all round you have to have all the machines, i have both psvita and 3ds and i agree with what SeVok said above the 3ds offers gaming that ONLY nintendo machines can do i.e mario and co. whilst the psvita offers gaming of the mainstream home console variety so yes its like having a ps3 in your hand, which is not bad thing,
The only thing exclusive to Sony would be Crash and Sly Cooper to me atleast.
There were 2 Crash games on the DS and Sony are currently trying to buy the rights for Crash from Activision. Personally the only thing I can get on the Vita that I can't elsewhere is Tearaway which looks really, really good.
The only thing exclusive to Sony would be Crash and Sly Cooper to me atleast.
There were 2 Crash games on the DS and Sony are currently trying to buy the rights for Crash from Activision. Personally the only thing I can get on the Vita that I can't elsewhere is Tearaway which looks really, really good.
ONCE AGAIN... I'm gonna bring up that Japan (overall) loves the 3DS far much more than the Vita for multiple reasons and its obvious. I think the Vita is great and is a great handheld. BUT... Japan, who I think controls the handheld market ultimately, is far more interested in the 3DS than the Vita.
Personally, there's nothing on the Vita that makes me want to buy it at all.
Cross Platform play is cool, but I don't have a PS3, so that's out.
My 3DS has a massive library of games I can play as compared to the Vita along with backwards compatibility to the DS library and the virtual console for older games I'd never played before. Sure the Vita can play PSP games and PS1 games via download, but I could just buy a PS1 or a PSP and get the games from a vintage game store for far cheaper, so that's out.
I've demoed the Vita in stores and while the image looks great, it's not the most comfortable thing to hold. The face buttons are too small and the analogsticks, while responsive, don't have much space for my thumbs. The back touchpad makes it even more uncomfortable to hold and use simultaneously. Now that's out. The 3DS is only uncomfortable to me when I try to play Kid Icarus with the touchscreen. Otherwise, it feels great. Add on the Circle Pad Pro and more comfort is involved, but since that's an add-on, I won't count it in my little comparision.
Aside from that, I've not heard much about NEAR from the few people I know that DO have a Vita. So I wouldn't buy one to see what that's about.
With the 3DS I can buy just about any SD card whereas I have to get the proprietary memory sticks for the Vita. And I've seen that those things are steep. 7 dollars for an 8GB SD card is in my budget. 25 dollars for an 8GB memory stick? No thanks.
And the last thing is "wow factor." The Vita has an "HD" screen, but aside from that, nothing is really that impressive. The 3DS has 3D. Sometimes it's not much to look at, but the games that use it right are fantastic! The depth is incredible and immerses me in the world in a way nothing else can manage.
That's just me though. Maybe there's a lot of awesome stuff about the Vita I don't know about, but from what I do know, nothing is warranting me spending $200 plus the memory stick and a game on it.
EDIT: Aside from all of that, the PSVita (according to Wikipedia) has over 2.2 million units sold as compared to the 3DS's 34 million. Everyone around here talks about how low Wii U sales will lead to the system not getting support. I think it's safe to say the same applies here.
Personally, there's nothing on the Vita that makes me want to buy it at all.
Cross Platform play is cool, but I don't have a PS3, so that's out.
My 3DS has a massive library of games I can play as compared to the Vita along with backwards compatibility to the DS library and the virtual console for older games I'd never played before. Sure the Vita can play PSP games and PS1 games via download, but I could just buy a PS1 or a PSP and get the games from a vintage game store for far cheaper, so that's out.
I've demoed the Vita in stores and while the image looks great, it's not the most comfortable thing to hold. The face buttons are too small and the analogsticks, while responsive, don't have much space for my thumbs. The back touchpad makes it even more uncomfortable to hold and use simultaneously. Now that's out. The 3DS is only uncomfortable to me when I try to play Kid Icarus with the touchscreen. Otherwise, it feels great. Add on the Circle Pad Pro and more comfort is involved, but since that's an add-on, I won't count it in my little comparision.
Aside from that, I've not heard much about NEAR from the few people I know that DO have a Vita. So I wouldn't buy one to see what that's about.
With the 3DS I can buy just about any SD card whereas I have to get the proprietary memory sticks for the Vita. And I've seen that those things are steep. 7 dollars for an 8GB SD card is in my budget. 25 dollars for an 8GB memory stick? No thanks.
And the last thing is "wow factor." The Vita has an "HD" screen, but aside from that, nothing is really that impressive. The 3DS has 3D. Sometimes it's not much to look at, but the games that use it right are fantastic! The depth is incredible and immerses me in the world in a way nothing else can manage.
That's just me though. Maybe there's a lot of awesome stuff about the Vita I don't know about, but from what I do know, nothing is warranting me spending $200 plus the memory stick and a game on it.
EDIT: Aside from all of that, the PSVita (according to Wikipedia) has over 2.2 million units sold as compared to the 3DS's 34 million. Everyone around here talks about how low Wii U sales will lead to the system not getting support. I think it's safe to say the same applies here.
Never use Wikipedia as a source because its normally not up to date or just wrong, btw Vita has around 6 million sales and 3DS has around 40 million.
Edit: I also checked the wiki page and this is whats written "2.2 million (as of June 30, 2012)" thats more than a year out of date.
@jazzer94 That's just a blatant lie that likes to get thrown around by schools and teachers. In fact there have been numerous articles (not on Wikipedia's website) giving it the same accuracy of Britannica
The Vita has two key problems, and those are the expensive memory cards and a lack of exclusive games for the system. The Memory Card thing is a major blow, since i have seen numerous people back off buying a Vita because the memory card prices are simply too high. Until Sony fixes this problem, they will have a hard time convincing people to spend money on the Vita.
But I think the biggest problem the Vita has is a lack of exclusive games for the platform. Almost all the best games on the Vita can also be found on the PS3. Games like Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 1 & 2, and other titles are fine games in their own right, but they can be found on the PS3. The 3DS has gotten its share of home console ports in the past, but many games like Super Street Fighter: 3D Edition went the extra mile by adding 3DS exclusive features. How many PS3 to Vita ports take advantage of the hardware?
And while third-party support is lackluster, Sony has barely supported the Vita this year. In 2013, Nintendo came out with Fire Emblem, Luigi's Mansion, a new Zelda, Pokemon X & Y and other first-party titles throughout the year. What has Sony does this year? The only title that comes to mind is KIllzone: mercenary. Granted, Killzone: Mercenary is a good game, and a great show of the Vita's potental, but it is one game and has been by overshadowed by Killzone: Shadow Fall for the PS4. Where is God of War, Gran Trusimo, or Infamous? Where are Sony's major first-party IPs?
It seems like their entire focus is on the PS3 and PS4, and the Vita get whatever scraps Sony can toss its way. That is not how you beat Nintendo in the handheld market or even compete with them. The Vita is a great system that has some powerful hardware backing it up. But for all its bells and whistles, its missing the key element that sells systems and that's games. Exclusive titles that can sell the Vita and show off its hardware. Until Sony figures that out, the Vita will never sell like it should.
Look at the Wii U, once it started getting the key exclusives from Nintendo, its fortunes started to turnaround. The Vita could do the same, but it needs Sony's full support, not a random game tossed out while they put all their games on the PS3 and PS3. Price drops and hardware revisions are only short-term fixes. If Sony wants to see the Vita have any chance of success, it nees a steady stream of major games.
@jazzer94 That's just a blatant lie that likes to get thrown around by schools and teachers. In fact there have been numerous articles (not on Wikipedia) giving it the same accuracy of Britannica
No, Jazzer's right. Wikipedia's not gonna devote resources to keeping constantly-changing statistics up to date, so only regular people will likely do that, thuis leading to varying degrees of reliability. Yes, Wikipedia is extremely accurate with some things, but not everything. I've been hit with several inaccuracies just this week on various topics, such as calling a Brawler a "3D Fighting game" when the bare-bones versus mode is hardly the main feature of the game.
However, arronishere is right, Sony is pretty secretive of the Vita sales, so all we have to go off of is VG Chartz...which I also do not believe is the most accurate source. But nonetheless, according to them, the Vita has 6.80 million total units sold worldwide. If nothing else, it's a...more generous estimate.
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