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Octane

@Marce2240: More like an over-the-shoulder Metroid game than a Prime game. Just something completely different. Platforming was awkward in Prime, a third person camera should solve that.

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KO-Cub

I honestly think the timeline is ok. If people wanna know the Metroid universe and lore, they gotta put effort into it.

The time line is fine right now, except for M:OM, as its scripts state that the prime series never happened.

We don't need reboots, or remakes, or whatever anymore. We need to develop the Metroid universe. Seriously want to see where Metroid goes after Fusion.

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MarcelRguez

@Octane: Any particular examples? TPS are kind of a dying breed nowadays, and I can't think of one that has both a third-person camera and a lock on. Only Vanquish comes to mind, and it only had lock-on on bosses, if I recall correctly.

In fact, if the goal is to make a new kind of platform heavy, fast paced 3D Metroid game, maybe Platinum wouldn't be that bad of a choice.

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Octane

@Marce2240: Uncharted comes to mind. There's a free camera when you're not actively engaged in combat. That helps quite a lot with the platforming bits. The camera locks to an over-the-shoulder perspective once you draw your gun. It's the only game I can think of that the moment, but I might be a good example as it also focuses on both platforming and shooting.

Platinum makes amazing action games, but I'm not sure how they would handle a platform heavy game. I still want to see a sequel to Murasame Castle developed by Platinum games though, they're made for that game.

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NinjaWaddleDee

@Marce2240: Somewhat. More like third person shooter where you actually get to aim at enemies instead of being locked onto them, and with a 360 degree camera instead of a fixed one. Throw in some actual melee attacks instead of just finishing moves, and I think it could be great. Maybe slow Samus down a bit too, to add to the sense of dread.

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NinjaWaddleDee

@Octane: Actually, Uncharted sounds pretty good just because you have those bits of platforming. I would also nominate Vanquish and Mass Effect for their 3rd person shooter styles. The characters in them remain agile like Samus, but not quite as agile as Other M Samus, which just made the game feel silly to me, and got rid of the aiming skill barrier that existed in previous games. Should Samus be able to hide behind cover? Or is her suit good enough that she doesn't need it?

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Haru17

I wouldn't give up the atmospheric first person visor effects for the world. Besides, Metroid doesn't seem like the property to do anything new, interesting, or focal with platforming in, so the first person perspective is no hinderance. Platforming should just be a backdrop; a means of exploring the world, just like it is in Zelda.

Survivor horror melee combat could be absolutely harrowing in first person. Especially with close-mid range shooting to prevent hordes from punching your armor off. Just imagine the derelict ship from Prime 3, but with the ing zombie federation troopers from Echoes (it doesn't have to be zombies necessarily). Creepy!

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On an unrelated note, I'm incredibly fine with Metroid being the 'outdated' series without any fleshy facial animation tech. Just think how much they did in the later Prime games' cutscenes with only orange, blue, and pink bounty hunter faces to work with. Samus and Dark Samus' visors conveyed so much even as unemotive as they were.

I'd like to see some weird alien faces in the future. Just think what a Chozo talking would look like. I want that.

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Octane

@NinjaWaddleDee: Of course, when the game's structually different than Other M, I expect the character to control differently as well. That's why I don't think Other M is a good comparison for a 3D Metroid, it was structured like the 2D games. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I don't think it makes a good comparison to a more modern 3D Metroid. That's why comparisons to other games like Vanquish, Uncharted and Mass Effect are more important. I think that having a Metroid game play like that would be neat.

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MarcelRguez

@Octane: Sounds appropriate, but I assume the over-the-shoulder perspective works like the one in RE4 and doesn't feature lock-on, right?

And Murasame Castle would fit like a glove, it'd be interesting to see that come to fruition one day.

@NinjaWaddleDee: So just like Vanquish, I take? I'd like that, that game was just what I imagined a 3rd person perspective Metroid to be. Only, you know, not so focused on combat and more exploration-based.

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Octane

@Marce2240: Haven't played RE4, but I imagine a system where it switches to an over-the-shoulder view when you raise your gun. It don't think it should lock on enemies, but just provide an easier view for aiming.

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NinjaWaddleDee

@Marce2240: Yeah maybe slowed down a bit, without the boost manouever.

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NinjaWaddleDee

@Haru17: Yeah I think first person melee combat would be amazing. Unfortunately, Nintendo seems incable of making survivor horror combat like that. I assume what you are talking about would be gory right? I'd honestly like some more gore in my metroid, but that's just my opinion. I know that others will disagree with me.

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bezerker99

Just throw away the timeline. It's mostly pointless and all it does it keep Nintendo from making more games in the series (because they think it somehow has to fit into their precious timeline).

Hollywood does this all the time. For instance, Ridley Scott is making a sequel to Alien right now and he clearly threw the sequel, Aliens, out the window when making his movie.

Another example is Superman Returns. They completely disregarded Superman II, III, and IV and instead are calling Superman Returns the sequel to the original Superman from back in the day.

Anyways, seems like Nintendo gets hung up with the story. I say to heck with story and focus on an intense single player offline experience with great gameplay.

DefHalan

@bezerker99: I don't think the Metroid timeline is a mess, they just released the games in a messy way which made the timeline confusing. Also, with the Zelda series we already have a series that basically throws away any idea of a timeline with every release. Metroid is fine, they just need to do a better job at teling people when something takes place during the timeline... still can't figure out when Metroid Prime Pinball happens lol.

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Octane

@bezerker99: Every super hero franchise does the same thing. They're all stories that take place in the same universe with the same characters, but aren't necessarily prequels or sequels.

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jump

bezerker99 wrote:

Hollywood does this all the time. For instance, Ridley Scott is making a sequel to Alien right now and he clearly threw the sequel, Aliens, out the window when making his movie.

I thought he was making a direct sequel to Prometheus which ties in more to the Alien franchise whilst also actually use the Alien name this time and Neill Blomkamp is also directing an Alien flick which may or may not be related to Prometheus.

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Octane

@jump: Yeah, Alien: Covenant is the sequel to Prometheus, because why not? Blomkamp's Alien 5 was supposed to take place between Alien and Alien 3, right? Not sure who gets a say in naming these films, but that guy needs take a course on naming conventions.

Octane

bezerker99

My bad, gang. I thought I read somewhere online that Nintendo didn't really know where to go next with Metroid and I assumed it was timeline related. I feel that Other M relied too heavily on story (gee, really?) to explain why Samus doesn't have her powerups at the beginning of the game. And it was a really stupid and lame excuse..... simply because Adam won't authorize her weapons??? The need to explain why Samus doesn't have her powerups at the beginning of each game is like saying we have to explain what happens to Mario every time he dies. It doesn't really require an explanation, yet Nintendo feels so obligated to do that when it came to Other M.

Also, I wouldn't have a problem with another remake of the original Metroid, possibly told from a Metroid Prime viewpoint (1st person, HUD display, all that jazz).

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Octane

@bezerker99: Hah, it made more sense than loosing all of your weapons every time your start a new adventure. In the end, nothing changed. I didn't mind it at all, it finally changed that same old formula. It made sense from a story perspective.

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