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Topic: What format of media does Wii U use???

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Nitendnut

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I am wondering what the format of the software is? I am guessing some sort of disc based media from the obvious slot in the front of the console :-) is it some sort of proprietary format like GameCube and Wii? Or will it play a standard DVD. As much as I liked the Wii I wish it played DVD. Not a big thing for allot of people but it just eliminates having extra gear.

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19Robb92

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It'll be using a copy of the Blu-ray discs.

"It has an optical disc drive. Kotaku confirmed with Nintendo that the storage media will be capable of holding 25GB, which definitely points to a single layer Blu-ray Disc. Nintendo, however, likely won't be touting any licensed movie playback, so don't even expect the company to ever refer to the media as Blu-ray Disc."

It will not play Blu-Ray DVD's nor normal DVD's.

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Nitendnut

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That sucks, so once again.... a game only machine. We rarely play our Wii's.....so they mostly serve as streaming boxes for Netflix.

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Treverend

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Nitendnut wrote:

That sucks, so once again.... a game only machine. We rarely play our Wii's.....so they mostly serve as streaming boxes for Netflix.

Speak for yourself, I play with my Wii all the time, I sold my PS3 and my Xbox 360 collects dust because all I use is my Wii and gaming PC. Also it's not a big deal, almost everyone has Blu-Ray players now already, and streaming Netflix is the way of the future, you get 1080p quality too that Blu-Ray offers on Netflix.

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fredtoy

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Why bother with disc format? The games will only be playable on the console they are made for. Xbox discs are DVDs, but I can't use them on my computer or DVD player. The same with PS3 and Blu-Ray discs.

Nitendnut wrote:

That sucks, so once again.... a game only machine. We rarely play our Wii's.....so they mostly serve as streaming boxes for Netflix.

If you are using your Wii mostly to stream Netflix, IMHO you bought the wrong device. You'd be better served with a Blu-Ray player with Smart TV capabilities or a PS3.

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skywake

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This is how to respond to anyone complaining about how the Wii U won't play movies from disks::
http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/home%20theatre/blu-ray%20playe...
that's almost as cheap as the likely RRP for a Wii U game, if you want to play Blu-Rays buy one......

although playing it on the tablet would be pretty cool even if I'd probably never use it. I guess that's what DLNA is for which they better do. Not everyone has a tablet.

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Lan

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I bet the Wii U games are cartridge-based. Lighting-fast load times, baby!

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skywake

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@Lan
Maybe next gen. By that stage there should be very cheap 60GB+ flash that's not unlike a 3DS cartridge just bigger and faster. I guess by then though the question will be whether you'd want to go that route when you can download the game and install it on the by then underwhelming 750GB SSD.

......... and I guess the other question would be how big will games be by next gen? If it follows the trend I just made up a quick graph for in excel there might be some 200GB games by then.

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Bankai

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......... and I guess the other question would be how big will games be by next gen? If it follows the trend I just made up a quick graph for in excel there might be some 200GB games by then.

The size of games in the future won't be so much constrained by technology limitations as business ones. Even a Call of Duty game wouldn't be able to be sustainable if developers aimed to take advantage of a 200GB storage format.

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skywake

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Unless they do a FF or MGS at 4k......... I tend to agree with you but there are always going to be a small number of games that want to put massive amounts of extra fluff in there. I think the largest game download on steam AFAIK was something around 20GB and that's with compression, ~50GB install. Lots of cutscenes.

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Wheels2050

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fredtoy wrote:

Why bother with disc format? The games will only be playable on the console they are made for. Xbox discs are DVDs, but I can't use them on my computer or DVD player. The same with PS3 and Blu-Ray discs.

Price - it's always price. Discs are very cheap, while solid state memory isn't. Costs are coming down for solid state memory but companies would still need to decide whether to add a few dollars onto the cost of the game to absorb the memory price (which consumers would complain about) or keep the price the same and make less profit. If they're using discs like everybody else they're not at a disadvantage.

Keep in mind that Jason Rohrer, the Diamond Trust of London developer, recently asked for about $80,000 to produce and ship 6,000 DS cartridges. While that price included the cost of packaging and postage on top of the cartridge production cost, it gives you some idea of what cartridge costs are (and keep in mind that DS cartridges aren't particularly large capacity).

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skywake

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Well solid state memory halves in price and doubles in speed about every 18months and optical media doesn't improve at anywhere near that rate. The best Blu-Ray drives read about 5x faster than the drive included in the original PS3 did and that (~500Mbps) is probably the limit for Blu-Ray. And then there's capacity, you think of the optical media standards in the std size and we got CDs in the late 80s at 700MB, DVDs in the late 90s with 8.5GB and then Blu-Ray in mid 200X with practically upto ~100GB. Six doublings in almost two decades. So optical media is increasing in $/GB and speed at half the rate of solid state memory.

It'll get to the point where flash is a better option than optical media eventually especially if durability and speed are at all important. It'll be big enough for what you'll need, not be as cheap as optical media but be cheap enough and will be orders of magnitude faster than the other options. For movies and music that day will probably never come because performance isn't an issue at all at this stage. With games however every MB/s matters if you want to load a level quickly so I think it will happen if downloads don't completely change the way we buy games first.

Infact for a while noticed that some people have started to use solid state memory as a way to physically give someone digital media over CDs or DVDs. I'm half surprised that when you spend $100+ on Windows or MS Office it still comes on disks by default rather than a $5 thumb drive. I know they want to cut costs and so on but..... I still think it's a bit strange TBH....

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