Topic: Was this E3 the final nail in the coffin for the Wii U?

Take it easy, I was just joking. I definitely think there are better platformers out there, but NSMB does have its good moments.

Never understood people selling their consoles over one bad E3 presentation. Dude even said, himself he had fun with the games. You're seriously dumping the system over a presentation when previous experience with existing games says otherwise? I mean, if for some inexplicable reason you can only have one system period, EVER, sure, I could understand, then, but that'd be pretty hard to explain unless you don't have a job. What if 2016 has some of the most ridiculously good Wii U offerings the system will ever see? What if 2015 is just a lull in the system's excitement and it picks back up later similar to how the 3DS appears to be doing, this year? S'gonna sting that you chose to have one console instead of two, then.

@VoodooTrumpet: LOL

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Lol E3 wasn't THAT bad. The Wii U has a ridiculous number of games coming out this year, and we have no idea what's out next year.

If anything, Nintendo's total e3 showing was average. Earthbound beginnings, Blast Ball Roy, Ryu, Project Treasure, Bravely Second, and Chibi-Robo Zip-Lash all came out in the e3 window. Just the digital event was poor.

Oh, my bad. Thought it was confirmed for NA in August.

Also, it's funny seeing people take personal offense to someone selling their Wii U. It's his, he can sell it if he thinks he's gotten the most out of it already. Personally, I hate selling anything. Especially since hacking the Wii U once the NX is out will probably be really awesome, in terms of what people will do with the gamepad.

If sold your Wii U just because of one bad E3 then I hope you pray that Microsoft next E3 going to be good. Seriously if you welling to sell a console over one bad E3 you shouldn't even be buying consoles because of that. It's not like the Wii U doesn't have quite a few games coming this year.

Don't feed it! Don't feed it! It even has a... uhm... "meme"? That's what those graphics with the words are called, right?

He/she obviously wanted to get a rise out of everyone, and he/she was successful. Good job.

Anyway, the Xbox One is an awesome console, too. I own one. It's cool. So just let people do what they want to do and relax. Nintendo already made their money on the hardware from that guy/girl, so there's no use getting all hot and bothered.

Look - we're all here for a reason. And we all know something: Nintendo's games rock. They always have, and they always will. They have great minds working their development teams, and they amazing (sometimes crazy) ideas. After this E3, they're going to be the brunt of LOTS of hate. And the Wii U is most likely dead. But Nintendo is an old company, and they're going to carry on and go back to amazing us in a short while.

So just go game - take it easy.

Jesus that's even a better deal! Thanks for the link

@VoodooTrumpet

Let's hope that Microsoft doesn't have another off-year.

2015 is still going to be a decent year for Nintendo. 2016... we'll see.

I don't understand people who flip out and sell their machine when a console maker underperforms at one E3, though. Seriously.

Just be wary about file sizes, I'd expect that even if you get the 1TB model you'll need an external hard drive.

You know, the Apple thing is interesting... what do other people think about it? If Apple gets serious about entering the gaming fray?

Personally, I don't own anything Apple. I refuse to support them. Their devices are immensely overpriced, and other companies' comparable hardware/software does the same stuff for much cheaper and usually with more customizability. Plus, the whole "Apple culture" of pumpkin spiced lattes and "Time to Stand Up!" from a bloody watch is a huge turn-off.

BUT, none of this matters, really - just my opinions. And if they decide to take a go at gaming... hrm...

I don't think Apple will enter the console market, they seem content with mobile. There's not a whole lot of incentive for new competitors to enter the console market at this point, the costs of making them are too high and mobile is eating into their market share. Maybe if the current AAA market crashes and we lose 1 or 2 of the Big 3 they'll consider it, but until then they probably don't see much reason to. And even then, if there was a vacancy in the AAA market Apple probably wouldn't make an actual game console, they'd make some kind of general entertainment hardware that could also play games. Something like what the Xbox One tried to be. The only real piece of the puzzle they're missing is AAA exclusives.

Did he say that? Must be true... Ps don't believe everything they say

I wouldn't count on it unless you see immense pressure from investors to do so. In recent years, Tim Cook has basically become a shill for big investors. Unlike Steve Jobs, he doesn't really say "no, I'm going to go down a different route, and you'll be surprised when we succeed". Apple is making lots of money on mobile games, so I don't see a further push happening.

Also, in regards to Apple products, it depends on what you are talking about. Their laptops are priced at only a few hundred dollars above the PC laptop of equivalent specs (INCLUDING weight, size, and material). Their phones cost about the same as the equivalent Android phone, though I personally refuse to buy another until they make one that's actually a reasonable size. Where you get into ridiculous territory is with their desktops. They are often overpriced by a grand or more.

If all of the Big 3 crash, console gaming is dead. A whole lot of the industry is structured on a traditional structure and culture based the old days, and that will stick around as long as at least one of the Big 3 is around. But if they all go, I anticipate that the market will steer everything towards micro-consoles and PC.

Now if Sony or Microsoft drops out, the next companies I can see giving it a shot are the big 3 western devs Ubisoft, EA, and Activision. If the Japanese console market weren't dying a slow painful death, I could also see Bandai-Namco putting their foot in, given that they have both hardware and software branches, and a long history of IPs and developers.

I didn't say all 3 would crash. But if we do see 1 or 2 of them, I think the third parties would take that as a sign that console gaming is dying and shift to PC and mobile. EA and Ubisoft already have digital distribution services, so they'd be well insulated against the loss of the console market. The only one of those companies that would be in trouble would be Activision, so maybe they would step up to the plate if need be. But even then, they like being multiplatform so they probably wouldn't enjoy being a first party company that much, so they might not bite either. Bottom line, I think the current situation with console gaming discourages potential competitors and I think console gaming would just die along with the Big 3.

Console gaming IS dying. Nintendo could well be "leaving the console race" - but they will leave it in ruins, it wont be anything like we knew. Gaming is just moving on from the traditional box-under-your-TV-and-controller-in-your-hands set up. Don't be afraid of change, Nintendo are leading the way there.

I don't see any advantage to launching a new console next year. Hardware costs come down, so if they wait a year, it can be that much more powerful at the same cost or however they want to work it. But, I think Zelda will sell some Wii Us- why not ride that for nearly two years instead of one (really just a few months if they were to announce at e3 a new console coming out in just a few months). Throw in that there will be a core group of Nintendo fans who feel cheated b/c they didn't get a full lifespan and/or feel generally abandoned.....

I think Nintendo will have a few more surprises for the Wii U. It wasn't too long ago that folks were concerned about them abandoning the 3ds. So, I'll bet we get Zelda and 6-8 new titles. This year we got/will get: Kirby, Mario Party 10, Splatoon, Fox, Mario Maker, Yoshi, Fatal Frame, Xenoblade, Mario Tennis, Amiibo Festival, Skylanders and Disney Infinity... So, I think they will at least get a few more.

@Yellowkoopa Did you even watch Nintendo's Digital Event because there were a few new games announced atrociousness notwithstanding. It wasn't that nothing was announced, it's just that what was announced for the Wii U at this year's E3 look like cr*p.

I have to disagree. I didn't see anything at the digital event that looked like crap. Just not the stuff people wanted exactly. I know at least two AC fans that were head-over-heels for both AC titles they showed at E3. Star Fox looked pretty good to me, and I hear they even updated the graphics. All the previously announced games still look really good, and that's not even counting stuff they didn't talk about at E3 like Fatal Frame and Zelda U. I thought the content of the Direct was good, and considering the release calendars of te Wii U and the 3DS before E3, I'm not the least bit surprised the 3DS got the spotlight. The only problems I had with the direct was the lack of a heavy hitter and the strong feeling that I'm gonna be living the Summer on Splatoon and Indie games alone, which could be a lot worse, but I was hoping for one title to break the monotony by then. The content was good, the hype was very weak.