Topic: Remember this?

You say this as if that kind of ridiculous judgement only comes from Nintendo fans. Do you think the people who will inevitably call the new Zelda game horrible will actually play it? Especially considering the low Wii U sales? Comments like yours are just as toxic and narrow-minded as the fans you criticize...and for the record, I have played The Last of Us (PS3 version, not the remastered edition). I won't try to argue that it's bad or anything, but I didn't care for it.

Yes, all four of them.

@tanookisuit
First off, the porting point isn't moot, because PS2's fast sales could easily be interpreted as faster support. Even with 7 million consoles, 3rd parties should be heavily considering what games they should and shouldn't port, which is what they are doing. Some games do and don't make the cut for whatever reason. Big deal.

Second, if we want to be literal, Wii U wouldn't be getting PS3 ports. It would be getting Xbox 360 ports. That's why PS3 isn't getting The Crew, because they've finally pushed Xbox 360 as far as it can go, and don't know how to translate to PS3 OR Wii U, because Xbox is and always been lead platform. Microsofts association with PC is where it's at.

Third, in terms of finances, they didn't lose it. They gained much more control of the market during those first 3 years. They didn't even get caught by PS3 until like 2011 or something. They were both losing money, but MS lost less and gained more control over what 3rd parties do.

Fourth, Wii U isn't underpowered compared to Xbox and PS. Being PowerPC rules that claim out by default.

Lastly, this isn't my opinion. It's facts that I have furthered with logic. Go ahead and think Wii U is weak, because I will know for a fact that you are wrong. Go ahead and play your CoD on PS4, because you didn't care enough to play it on Nintendo. That is truly the difference.

tbh, anyone defending Battlefield after 4 should be banished from society

@sub12
Wii U isn't weak. Fact. That hasn't stopped you and plenty of other people from saying it is, though. With that in mind, hopefully you realize how annoying it is to read those words over and over again, in which I explain over and over again, but it doesn't get through.

Anyone who complains about power and isn't a PC gamer is a hypocrite anyway. Enjoy your "cinematic" 30 FPS games!

I think he means it isn't weak, period. Of course it is weaker than the ps4/one. Wasn't it believed to be a little bit stronger than a ps3?

He can't he's a ridiculous Nintendo fan that takes things too far and as I said before uses a sprinkling of truth bits drowned in a flood of opinionated garbage to try and sound and look smart to make a point that's easy to punch holes in. The only fact I'm not going to keep going on and on about this directly to him is that people like that, as already noted by another, are zealots, and you can't argue or use facts on zealots because they live on faith and belief, kind of like religion to get through the hard times or blame the hard times on anything else so there's something nice to cling onto or get to at the back end of things. It's very hard to un-drink the Kool-Aid when you've been tapped into an IV of it for years.

x86 and the PPC, if he's using that to argue how one is so much better than the other, you're right, that's about as dumb as it comes. The architecture of the two are so drastically different. The posts I made on any matter with the WiiU having problems or the WiiU having weak hardware(compared to PS4/One), or the Wii U suffering no support by Nintendo's own action comes direct from the horses mouth — third parties. It's not all public, some of it sure is, but my brother is a producer, a third party of NIntendo and the other two fish. When he says this is why Namco, Capcom, Konami, Tecmo, Koei, Square-Enix, and the rest won't make games or make some very piddly offerings for the Wii U (yet happily will release things on 3DS) I'll take an insiders word over some blind fan who can't adapt to grasp the reality of the situation that Nintendo created for itself through years of stupid self serving moves that finally have come full circle to bite themselves in the butt with. Nintendo was given full chance this generation as they like Sony and MS were pitched a want list of what was needed in a new gen of hardware to get third parties support, two of the three did so, and one didn't. Can we guess which? Hint, EA walked away from it, Ubisoft and Activison has limited releases, others are quiet (Capcom) and many still have yet to put one thing on it at all and don't list any SKUs either which tend to take 2-3 years to develop from paper to disc. Hmm... Nintendo?

...oh and I don't much like COD thanks. The last one I got was Ghosts, before that Black Ops and MW1. I got those on WiiU, PS3, and PC respectively, thanks. I actually do buy third party games that interest me and I did buy them on WiiU when I had the choice over PS3, and that choice is now taken away.

That's why PS4's graphics are better, but that's not what all these consoles are entirely about, Also, Wii U's AMD chip is a GPGPU variant which parallel processes. Something that PS4's doesn't, so make of that what you will.

@tanookisuit
I'm not a blind fanboy. I don't even think you're talking to me anymore.

What? You posted a link without any explanation of what you are trying to point out.

EDIT: NVM. I see now. PowerPC still uses it's parts differently, so you still can't compare. If Wii U had the same parts as PS4 does while still being PowerPC, it would display much higher graphics. A PowerPC machine with PS4 specs is like 4-5 generations into the future.

@Kodeen
I made an edit. So that's where my explanation is.

I answered what the outcome was in the same post, though. PS4 has better graphics, I get it. Last time I checked, that information wasn't even available. Last time I looked into the specs, people knew Wii U had a GPGPU, but they were still trying to find out what was in Xbox One and PS4. I don't know how long ago that was, TBH.

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Man, you are getting stale here, anything... or anyone... else?

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your lack of an actual rebuttal is noted and not surprising in the least

but I will continue your failquote here, just because it amused me for a second

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happy that you find happyness in small things... kind of envious...

Yeah, see, the problem I'm seeing with this ENTIRE argument is that everyone is arguing specs, specs, specs, specs, specs, but to me as a gamer and to quite a number of other people, whether they realize it or not, the specs are just completely irrelevant to our gaming satisfaction. I've honestly felt that as time goes buy I get LESS enjoyment out of games that would've had me giggling gleefully as a child. But I don't shift my interests, either. I don't enjoy different kinds of game now than I did back then, in fact, I'd argue that my interests have greatly narrowed to reflect the utter lack of time to PLAY these games.

And I suppose that says it, right there. As a gamer, what should matter is the GAMES! Not specs. Not graphics. Not any of these arbitrary extra elements. The GAMES THEMSELVES are what count at the end of the day, because no matter how amazing the graphics might be on the PS4 or how lame they'll be on the 3DS, I will always choose to play Smash Bros for 3DS over The Last of Us (Remastered) without hesitation.

Now if you want to complain about specs til your face turns blue, feel free to go to a PC Gaming website and talk about the specs of your desktop where they actually matter because you, yourself can change them. I, on the other hand, am going to go where the fun and interesting games are.

Sorry but I believe the focus of the conversation was more centered on the lack of variety on WiiU, lack which can be only partially addressed by lowers specs than other consoles...

Someone slightly gets it! Except 3rd Parties will spin the "Nintendo Fans only buy Nintendo games" swill to the reason why their games will not hit the system.

The Sad part is that after 2015 the Xbox 360 and PS3 are more than likely no longer going to be developed for so the WiiU would have missed it's chance at getting those Cross Gen games.

I don't want to ever have to play a Nintendo game on hardware that wasn't made by Nintendo but I would love it if Nintendo were forced into 3rd party development and were able to aggressively compete with those who have wronged them.