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Pastry

I was just playing my newest purchase, Faxandu for the VC, when I got stuck (!) in the Tower of Suffer, some monsters keep dropping down on my head and kill me. I am seriously underleved and will probably be able to grind once I get through the castle when some easier enemies pop up.

Do you have any tips for the Tower of Suffer?
BTW, If you have some of your own problems, post them here!... I guess.

P.S. If this is against the rules or something... sorry.

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Link79

I'm actually just getting ready to purchase this on VC. I hear it's like Zelda 2. I just have one quick question. Is it as difficult as Zelda 2? I always had a really hard time beating that game. Especially the final dungeon.

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Pastry

Its much easier than that! Way, way easier. Just not easy enough for me...

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Philip_J_Reed

Remember, grinding doesn't really help you in this game, unless you're grinding for cash. Your use of the term "underlevelled" leads me to believe you might be barking up the wrong tree, so don't waste your time on that!

The "titles" you get as you gain more experience don't increase your attack power, nor your defense. The only things that will do that are the items you buy from shops. So, basically, disregard experience entirely, and just concentrate on earning enough for better armor / weapons / spells. That's all that will help you.

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Adam

It could be that I've played Zelda 2 a million times, but I find this game a little bit harder so far. The combat and jumping feels kind of awkward. This could also be because everyone has been saying "It's so much like Zelda 2!" that I expect it to be exactly the same, so I'm trying to keep an open mind.

I will say though that the screen could benefit from some colors other than poo brown. Of course, if I were a 360 owner, I might call the color scheme ahead of its time.

Anyway. Is the Tower of Suffer the first tower? I don't recall what it's called. If so, could you tell me what room the enemies fall on you? The short enemies are pretty easily handled by the Deluge spell. Some you can very easily run straight under, and others if you stand on a higher point, they'll keep jumping at you for an easy slash with your weapon.

If it's not the first tower, you're probably way ahead of me and laughing at my sad little "tips." It's okay, I'm cool with that. Just watch your back.

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Link79

I just started playing and already I have questions. Why can't my character duck? There's these spiky things at the start you have to jump over. I can't hit them with my sword. I found a shop where this guy offers to sell me a martial arts lesson but after I spend the gold nothing seems any different. Oh and btw what happens to your stuff if you die? Do you lose everything and start over?

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Fuzzy

It took me a while to realize that the Deluge was a spell, and not some weak-looking fork thing. Once you get that, it makes the first few levels pretty easy.

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Adam

Link, use the Deluge spell to kill the short creatures. The dagger you get in the first town will not reach them if you're on even ground.

Martial arts lessons... for some reason... restore your health. The door next to it leads you to some guy who will less obtusely offer to restore your magic. I was confused by this as well and was expecting a new maneuver like how Link learns up thrust and down thrust from the soldier-looking-guys (again, misled by constant Zelda 2 comparisons).

Really what makes the game hard for me is that when you die you restart in the village. I wish it had Zelda 2's innovative lives system, which introduced the concept of multiple attempts to video games, but I can't blame Fax for coming out first.

Edity Edit: What are these wing boots for? They cost a bunch, so I don't want to use them to find out and then have to buy them again. I know it allows me to fly, but for how long, and where would I want to use this?

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Link79

Well I'm liking the game so far. Just made it past the first boss. I like how generous this game is with giving you money.
So many of these type of games just give you a tiny bit to work with. The clues of the towns people aren't as vague as those in Zelda 2 and Simon's quest. They tell you exactly what to do rather than saying something pointless like (I am error) and things like that. This game should keep me busy for the next few days. I'm glad I bought it.

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Fuzzy

@Adam - somebody in that town says that the wing boots are used to get to some area that I think is important in the game. I've just left that town (without the boots- don't have enough money) so I dont know where you need to use them too.

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Philip_J_Reed

Adam wrote:

Edity Edit: What are these wing boots for? They cost a bunch, so I don't want to use them to find out and then have to buy them again. I know it allows me to fly, but for how long, and where would I want to use this?

You'll need them in a few places, so they're worth buying. (Or picking up. There's at least one room I've found where they appear for free if you kill the enemies in a certain order, or something.) Most immediately, you'll need them to fly up to an area that contains one of the dead springs.

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Adam

"I am Error" isn't pointless. Later someone tells you to bring something to Error. Compared to stuff like what the martial arts guy says (though granted, what he says isn't exactly important) in this game, and I don't know that Zelda 2 is any more vague. Simon's Quest, however.... yikes. What a confusing game.

And yea, I saw that, Fuzzy, I'm just afraid to try them and find out they're one use only, then have to grind for a bazillion coins again.

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I'm just afraid to try them and find out they're one use only, then have to grind for a bazillion coins again.

They are indeed one-use only, and you will have to grind for a bazillion coins again.

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Adam

Will it be obvious where I can use them, or can I use them on any screen without a ceiling to fly up up and away?

Edity Edity Edit: Just saw you responded to me earlier... missed that. I've found one of the dead springs without the boots, but I sadly do not have an elixir, so I wasn't able to do anything there.

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Will it be obvious where I can use them, or can I use them on any screen without a ceiling to fly up up and away?

Not sure...that's the part I'm at, too. I haven't successfully found the right area, but I know they're one use because I was dumb enough to test them. Go me!

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I've found one of the dead springs without the boots, but I sadly do not have an elixir, so I wasn't able to do anything there.

If it's the one I'm thinking of, where you leave the town, go up, and then go left to find the entrance to the dungeon (or whatever), the elixir is in there, too. In fact, if you go to speak to the old man who needs it, and then you walk as far left as you can go, you'll see the elixir on-screen. You'll need to wind your way back through the dungeon to get it, but you'll see it at least, and have an approximate idea of where it is.

In fact, I'm assuming that each dungeon contains both a spring and an elixir. I might be wrong...maybe there's one you can find on an overworld somewhere...but that one, at least, is contained in the same place.

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Link79

Is there any way to return to a previous town? I wanted to go back to the king so he can give me my 1500 gold back. Since he's too senile to realize he already gave me the money. I'm in the third town and the prices at shops are getting steep.
This will take alot of grinding unless there's some secret area with loads of cash.

@ Adam I forgot about taking something back to that Error guy in Zelda 2. I guess that wasn't so pointless.
Haven't played that one in a while.

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Adam

I just found the elixir. I had seen it before but didn't realize what it was and forgot about it. Now I have no idea where to go. I've grinded to the point that buying wing boots is nothing to me, so I've tested them out, and they oddly are not very helpful. There are invisible walls around all the screens I've tried them on. I'm wondering if maybe I can fly up to that ladder right next to the dungeon I just beat, but I seem to recall there being a block underneath it. I'll have to try that at lunch, and maybe go back to that shop with the super expensive prices and see if I can afford anything relevant now.

Anyway, I take it we're all at the same place, or at least close? Seems like no one has put the wing boots to use yet but is at the third town. Right now I don't really see any path to a new area, though there is a Joker door I can't open (J and Q keys don't do a thing).

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Adam

These villagers sure aren't living up to their reputation as the most helpfulest NPCs in video game history. I've got absolutely no leads on where to go next. I've wandered around aimlessly so much that I was able to attain the Hero title and buy both the Death spell and the Magic shield, neither of which seems worth half their price so far.

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Philip_J_Reed

Yeah, I don't really think the NPCs in this game earned their reputation as being any more helpful than in any other comparable game of the time. They might not (often) speak in hilariously broken English, but that still doesn't mean you stand to gain much from listening to them.

Anyway, mild spoilers, but I found where to use the boots:

Leave that town (whatever it's called...you know the one we're in) and go right. Drop down and you'll find several screens to the right with wide open skies. On those screens, you can use the boots to fly up. One of them (the middle one I think) leads you to a small stone area. Fly up and through it (quickly) and you'll find a dead fountain with an old man who will reactivate it for you. (Why he didn't just reactivate it on his own is anyone's guess.)

Anyway, I did that, and discovered you had to go back to the first dungeon to get the Joker key. Fine. I went back to the first dungeon, and discovered I needed another Jack key to get in. So, back to the town to buy the Jack key, back to the dungeon to get the Joker key, used the Joker key, and was killed within 5 seconds of opening the door.

When I revived I went back to the key man to buy the Jack key to go back to the dungeon to get the Joker key (because doors refuse to stay unlocked, and Mr. Faxanadu likes to eat keys immediately after he uses them), and died again, in maybe, like, 4 seconds.

So, ****ing AGAIN I bought the Jack key, went back to the dungeon, got the Joker key, went back to the Joker door, went inside, was a little more careful with my dodging and survived for about 20 seconds this time, until my dodging was performed too close to the entrance/exit and I was warped back outside, and the Joker door was now locked again, meaning I needed to buy the Jack key and so on and so on and so on and so on.

All of which definitely made me pretty angry.

Eventually I survived, but it took about 20 minutes or more to perform what should have taken about 5 minutes. I made it to the next town where I discovered there's no save point, then found another Queen door, and had to backtrack to buy another Queen key. Opened that door and was murdered by invisible enemies. Wonderful.

You're not a bad game Faxanadu, but goodness me are you irritating.

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NotEnoughGolds

1. Make sure to always keep an Elixir on you, it will automatically restore your health when you drop to 0.
1b (edit): You can only carry 1 elixir, but you can have multiple red potions.
2. I'm almost certain you can get wing boots for free the only time you need them, which is the wide open sky.
3. If you're having trouble fighting the Dwarf in the Joker door, try running past/under/through him. Killing him isn't necessary, you just need to get to the next screen. In fact, if you do kill him, then go to the next screen to do what you need to do, he will respawn when you return to the previous screen.
4. Actually, all boss characters respawn as soon as you return to their screen. In one particular tower, there is a boss on the right side of the screen. In the room to his right, there is an elixir on the left side of the screen. You can easily grind this boss for cash.

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