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Topic: It's Time for Golden Sun on Nintendo Switch

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Snaplocket

A game doesn't have to be innovative to be good. For instance, Dragon Quest XI and Cold Steel III are both JRPGs where just about every "innovation" was taken from other games and yet they're easily two of the best JRPGs I've played this generation.

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Majora101

This is true. The Legend Of Zelda: Twilight Princess isn't particularly notable for having made any major changes to the Zelda formula outside of the Wolf Link gameplay, but that is a classic Zelda game with a strong cast and a great semi-realistic art style that suspends disbelief just enough to still look good with age. A game doesn't have to reinvent the wheel to be a classic.

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Snaplocket

The thing is, Golden Sun has never made a huge splash in the first place. Sure, they sold well but they've never had as much impact as Xenoblade, Pokemon or Fire Emblem. Nintendo probably thinks those games are enough to satisfy RPG fans and people pining for a new Golden Sun are few and far between. I mean look at Smash Ultimate. Incineroar got in when there are already plenty of Pokemon reps, while Issac was relegated to assist trophy after being completely absent in 4.

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Grumblevolcano

Xenoblade and Fire Emblem didn't have much impact outside Japan until those franchises got playable fighters in Smash (Shulk for Xenoblade, Marth and Roy for Fire Emblem). The Smash effect works both ways, it can increase the popularity of obscure franchises as well as putting characters from huge franchises in Smash can increase Smash's popularity further.

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Majora101

Grumblevolcano is correct, Smash has a major effect on the popularity of lesser known franchises. Many to most new Brawl players probably hadn't even heard of Kid Icarus until Pit became a fighter. I'm not sure how "impact" could be measured in anything but abstract terms (I think Pokemon is the only IP in that list that could be said to have had a major cultural impact, if that is what you meant). Sales are more interesting to look at, especially in relation to Fire Emblem, because Golden Sun outsold Fire Emblem out of the gate when selling internationally for the first time. Despite Golden Sun being picked up by more players, it was Fire Emblem that received more game entries and a Smash Bros. rep early on, with 99% of Melee players likely not knowing who characters like Marth or Roy even were, and as a result (in addition to being great strategy games) Fire Emblem is now a popular Nintendo staple today with regular releases, such is the Smash effect.

I would continue to argue that Pokemon is an entirely different beast from any other series, as it gets a new Smash Bros. rep with every entry. That may change with future Smash entries though, if Sakurai's comments on not being able to top the sheer size of Ultimate's roster are anything to go by. They may just start fresh with new entries, keeping a handful of mainstay fighters while implementing an entirely new roster. Then again, Sakurai blows steam in interviews with every Smash release, and they may very well out-do Ultimate with a future release regardless of what Sakurai says.

What is certain is an eventual inclusion of Isaac as a fighter; they are very aware of the demand for Golden Sun. Ultimate is currently the most Golden Sun heavy Smash Bros. game, with Isaac returning as an Assist Trophy for the first time since Brawl (I consider Brawl's successor Smash 4 a bit of a series misstep for many non Golden Sun-related reasons). Spirits for Isaac and adult Isaac, Garet, Jenna, Isaac and Jenna's son Matthew, Ivan, Mia, and Felix, as well as Mii outfits and headgear based on Isaac. I imagine Ultimate was almost "the one" for Isaac, but developing fresh characters had to be limited to a degree due to the massive size of the roster (plus the fact Nintendo is in control of the DLC, hence the focus on third-party characters like Joker and Banjo [feels awful to call Banjo "third party"] or more obscure fighters like Terry). Isaac is definitely waiting in the wings for a future Smash title.

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