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6ch6ris6

61. Posted:

edhe wrote:

6ch6ris6 wrote:

so sad to read some of the comments here.
i guess some people will only realize what is happening when they are the ones suffering on the streets. but then it is too late for most people...

workers have to unite and fight for their rights.

at least some people see clear and do something: http://blog.occupiedlondon.org/2013/02/11/occupied-greek-fact...

Oh boy. There are worker rights, and then there is Marxist irresponsibility.

Also, this company in question produces building materials. They don't assemble consumer gadgets and videogame media for the capitalist Bourgeoisie. They are absolutely not to be conflated with game studios whose artists are pressured in to working excessive hours.

i know there are differences between those buisnesses.
not talking about marxism. look at the history of marxism and you will notice that selfcontrolled factories are not part of it. marxist want the state to own everything. that's something completly different than what those guys in greece are doing or those guys in agrentina have done

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62. Posted:

6ch6ris6 wrote:

edhe wrote:

6ch6ris6 wrote:

so sad to read some of the comments here.
i guess some people will only realize what is happening when they are the ones suffering on the streets. but then it is too late for most people...

workers have to unite and fight for their rights.

at least some people see clear and do something: http://blog.occupiedlondon.org/2013/02/11/occupied-greek-fact...

Oh boy. There are worker rights, and then there is Marxist irresponsibility.

Also, this company in question produces building materials. They don't assemble consumer gadgets and videogame media for the capitalist Bourgeoisie. They are absolutely not to be conflated with game studios whose artists are pressured in to working excessive hours.

i know there are differences between those buisnesses.
not talking about marxism. look at the history of marxism and you will notice that selfcontrolled factories are not part of it. marxist want the state to own everything. that's something completly different than what those guys in greece are doing or those guys in agrentina have done

Please stop.

Marxist Communism imagined a world with no Government and ownership of all businesses was shared but a society working together for the betterment of everyone.

So, basically, the total opposite of what you just said.

That's how far wrong you are.

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63. Posted:

Bankai wrote:

6ch6ris6 wrote:

edhe wrote:

6ch6ris6 wrote:

so sad to read some of the comments here.
i guess some people will only realize what is happening when they are the ones suffering on the streets. but then it is too late for most people...

workers have to unite and fight for their rights.

at least some people see clear and do something: http://blog.occupiedlondon.org/2013/02/11/occupied-greek-fact...

Oh boy. There are worker rights, and then there is Marxist irresponsibility.

Also, this company in question produces building materials. They don't assemble consumer gadgets and videogame media for the capitalist Bourgeoisie. They are absolutely not to be conflated with game studios whose artists are pressured in to working excessive hours.

i know there are differences between those buisnesses.
not talking about marxism. look at the history of marxism and you will notice that selfcontrolled factories are not part of it. marxist want the state to own everything. that's something completly different than what those guys in greece are doing or those guys in agrentina have done

Please stop.

Marxist Communism imagined a world with no Government and ownership of all businesses was shared but a society working together for the betterment of everyone.

So, basically, the total opposite of what you just said.

That's how far wrong you are.

no marxist communism aims to get all the power through a communist party. the society is to be ruled by that party. and then marxist communists say "well someday there wont be a state and we will have a classless, anarchist society BUT until then the state needs to be strong and the people conditioned by the communist party.
look up what marx wrote and how it turned out later. exactly how i described it

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64. Posted:

Shall we voluntarily delete those last three comments or shal we let TheBlackDragon do it ;)

Edit - Heck - Or should I say this whole thread of argument - It's straying close to politics.

Edit 2 - I'm doing it.

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65. Posted:

Marxism =/= Communism. Communism twisted Marxism to include a Communist party (thus defeating the entire point of Marxism). And yes, I just looked it up.

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66. Posted:

6ch6ris6 wrote:

Bankai wrote:

6ch6ris6 wrote:

edhe wrote:

6ch6ris6 wrote:

so sad to read some of the comments here.
i guess some people will only realize what is happening when they are the ones suffering on the streets. but then it is too late for most people...

workers have to unite and fight for their rights.

at least some people see clear and do something: http://blog.occupiedlondon.org/2013/02/11/occupied-greek-fact...

Oh boy. There are worker rights, and then there is Marxist irresponsibility.

Also, this company in question produces building materials. They don't assemble consumer gadgets and videogame media for the capitalist Bourgeoisie. They are absolutely not to be conflated with game studios whose artists are pressured in to working excessive hours.

i know there are differences between those buisnesses.
not talking about marxism. look at the history of marxism and you will notice that selfcontrolled factories are not part of it. marxist want the state to own everything. that's something completly different than what those guys in greece are doing or those guys in agrentina have done

Please stop.

Marxist Communism imagined a world with no Government and ownership of all businesses was shared but a society working together for the betterment of everyone.

So, basically, the total opposite of what you just said.

That's how far wrong you are.

no marxist communism aims to get all the power through a communist party. the society is to be ruled by that party. and then marxist communists say "well someday there wont be a state and we will have a classless, anarchist society BUT until then the state needs to be strong and the people conditioned by the communist party.
look up what marx wrote and how it turned out later. exactly how i described it

No, that's socialism. Socialism is the transitionary, temporary form of Government as envisioned by Marx and driven by a people's revolution that is designed to construct this ideal society of peaceful anarchy and then remove itself from power.

Horribly flawed idea and naturally the socialist governments that popped up in Russia, China and Cuba had no intention and ever removing themselves from power, but that's why people say Marx had wonderful ideas that could never be executed.

Marx's ideals have never been applied in the real world. Each of the socialist leaders such as Mao, Kim Jong, Stalin and Castro put their own twist on the idea which was never genuinely communist.

I just need to make this clear as it's something that confuses a lot of people thanks to misinformation and a certain US Senator who decided that communism is modern-day witchcraft: there has never been a communist nation. There are socialist nations, but that's a different form of government entirely. Communism, as outlined by Marx (and he literally wrote the book on it), never existed, and never will.

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we can either get back to unions in gaming or i can lock the thread, guys.

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