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Topic: Nintendo was one of the first to do on disk DLC.

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Could someone give me some examples of how Nintendo has done on-"disc" DLC?

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ChrisT99 wrote:

Could someone give me some examples of how Nintendo has done on-"disc" DLC?

No, because they haven't. Thread title is intentionally misleading and intellectually dishonest.

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ChrisT99 wrote:

Could someone give me some examples of how Nintendo has done on-"disc" DLC?

As ferthepoet said on the previous page, if it comes on the disc then by definition it's not DLC, it's simply locked content.

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Dreamz wrote:

ChrisT99 wrote:

Could someone give me some examples of how Nintendo has done on-"disc" DLC?

As ferthepoet said on the previous page, if it comes on the disc then by definition it's not DLC, it's simply locked content.

Didn't the DS Pokemon games have locked content?

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SkywardLink98 wrote:

Dreamz wrote:

ChrisT99 wrote:

Could someone give me some examples of how Nintendo has done on-"disc" DLC?

As ferthepoet said on the previous page, if it comes on the disc then by definition it's not DLC, it's simply locked content.

Didn't the DS Pokemon games have locked content?

no they are actually called events , except for Pokemon Mystery Dungeons : Gates To Infinity , where DLC ( downloadable contents ) were made available to enchanse youre gaming experience.

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Megapokepaul wrote:

SkywardLink98 wrote:

Dreamz wrote:

ChrisT99 wrote:

Could someone give me some examples of how Nintendo has done on-"disc" DLC?

As ferthepoet said on the previous page, if it comes on the disc then by definition it's not DLC, it's simply locked content.

Didn't the DS Pokemon games have locked content?

no they are actually called events , except for Pokemon Mystery Dungeons : Gates To Infinity , where DLC ( downloadable contents ) were made available to enchanse youre gaming experience.

IIRC all the files are on the cart, you just needed to go to Gamestop (or where ever) to unlock the content. By definition, that's locked content aka "On disc DLC".

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UGXwolf

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Pokémon is first party. Game Freak is Second Party.
This is just like
Donkey Kong is first party. Rareware used to be Second Party.
On the other hand
Metroid is first party. Retro is also first party.
And just to be clear
Zelda is first party. Tecmo Koei is third party.
And
Rayman is third party. Ubisoft is also third party.

I hope this clears up any issues anyone might have had about the whole thing.

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CaviarMeths

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If it's -> on disc <- it is not -> downloadable <-

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WaLzgi

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Mew was technically locked content on Red and blue, so yeah Nintendo has been practicing this for a while. The main difference is 99% (if not 100%) of the time, you don't have to pay for the locked content

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I would say the e-Reader features in the GBA Pokemon games count as paid on-disc DLC. I guess you're not paying an upfront fee, but you are buying an e-Reader and the Pokemon cards which are just a password to get you into that one house in Mossdeep City.

Honestly, I never got what all the fuss was about on-disc paid DLC. Unless a big screen popped up halfway through the game, before the plot resolved, and said "pay $50 to see end of game", I would've just ignored the extra content and moved onto something else.

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Jollykarp wrote:

I would say the e-Reader features in the GBA Pokemon games count as paid on-disc DLC. I guess you're not paying an upfront fee, but you are buying an e-Reader and the Pokemon cards which are just a password to get you into that one house in Mossdeep City.

Honestly, I never got what all the fuss was about on-disc paid DLC. Unless a big screen popped up halfway through the game, before the plot resolved, and said "pay $50 to see end of game", I would've just ignored the extra content and moved onto something else.

Good point. I forgot that thing existed

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Dezzy

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So in Mario 3D Land, you had to complete level 1 before you unlocked level 2. Free on-disc DLC!!

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CaviarMeths wrote:

If it's -> on disc <- it is not -> downloadable <-

I see where you are coming from, but there is an internet connection or something that you download to "unlock" the content?...I think the use of the term DLC is used as a shorthand for the practice of adding content that is normally not accessible through normal play. Everyone immediately knew what the topic creator meant.

Good point though.

Anyway...

Having special offer 'unlock-ables' on the disc as incentives that the consumer doesn't pay for is okay in my opinion. I'd rather call those "bonus content" then DLC...offers like the free Yoshi and Zelda themed levels for Sonic Lost World also feel more like "bonus content" or "incentives" because the purpose and execution is different then typical DLC.

Just remember, DLC isn't inherently bad...but it is frequently abused. This is a good topic because it gets us thinking about how we define these practices. IMO, if it's something locked on the disc that is accessed for free as a store promotion or incentive to buy early...that's more of a "bonus" then a matter of DLC.

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It's also worth mentioning that Pokemon (which is the best example of in-game locked content) is not made nor managed directly by Nintendo.

People seem to think that Pokemon is a first party series, but it's not.

While its not a first party series, Game freak is influenced by Nintendo and they have a strong bond with them and as long as they do so, nothing can stop them.

Also even if Pokemon does end up being non-exclusive, it still won't be able to compete with Nintendo's IP's such as Mario.

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