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MasterWario

I think there's good room for a Mega Ariados. You could do some neat things with its design and its stats need a little help.

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Bolt_Strike

MasterWario wrote:

I think there's good room for a Mega Ariados. You could do some neat things with its design and its stats need a little help.

I actually think Mega Ledian would be more interesting, there's some neat things they could do with it conceptually. Like, you can imagine it changing to Bug/Fighting and resembling more of a boxer (since its fists already look like boxing gloves and it can learn some punching moves).

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I could honestly see Mega Ledian happening with Mega Ariados basically getting the Sableye/Gallade/Butterfree/Slowking/Froslass treatment.

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Bolt_Strike

Wait, Ledian has 35 Attack? Wow, they'd have to completely overhaul Ledian's stats to fit my idea. Maybe something like this:

HP: 75
Attack: 150
Defense: 65
Special Attack: 50
Special Defense: 50
Speed: 100
Total: 490

Can't think of an ability though.

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shaneoh

Mega Ditto

Actually, I'm surprised there isn't a mega pikachu or raichu yet

Or mega Machamp, he has 8 arms

It occurs to me that the 6 mon I most used in gen 1, starters, alakazam, gengar & beedrill all got Mega evolutions.

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Bolt_Strike wrote:

Wait, Ledian has 35 Attack? Wow, they'd have to completely overhaul Ledian's stats to fit my idea. Maybe something like this:

HP: 75
Attack: 150
Defense: 65
Special Attack: 50
Special Defense: 50
Speed: 100
Total: 490

Can't think of an ability though.

Most of ledian's movepool is around base 60. Technition seems like the best fit however ledian has such a limited movepool.. mach punch, bug bite, and aerial ace is about it. Everything else is otherwise neither stab (unless you want a bug/dark/normal ledian.) or too low or too high to really abuse technition much.

He needs some serious minmaxing to become viable in the lowest tiers. That BST seems like the best, (only with a little more speed creeping)

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Araquanid

Mega Ariados is extremely difficult to come up with.. it's just so weird, it's like you want to make it a glass cannon like beedrill.. but it's other stats are too high while it's speed is so low.

Reg:
HP: 70
Atk: 90
Def: 70
SpA: 60
SpD: 60
Spe: 40

Mega:
HP: 70
Atk: 140
Def: 60
SpA: 20
SpD: 30
Spe: 120
Ability: Adaptability/No Guard/Huge Power/Insecteliate(idk)/Tinted Lens/Illusion/Magic Bounce/Shadow Tag

Idk on this one... I'm trying to min max it as much as possible. Throwing 80 points right into speed while decreasing other stats to bring his attack up by 50 seems like my best option here. Adaptability just makes him a weaker beedrill clone.. except he has priority in shadow sneak and sucker punch. No guard gives him 100% accurate megahorn (not that important). Huge power again just minmaxing.. some kind of move that turns normal into bug moves for a strong return would be good I guess. Tinted lens to nuke with megahorn. Illusion cause I ran out of ideas.. (But when you think about it they do have a fake face on their abdomen so maybe..) Magic bounce because I'm trying to think of a more utility like role similar to absol. Shadow Tag/arena trap or some kind of trapping ability to emphasize the fact he's a spider and traps things in his web.. which would be pretty sick or nearly broken like gengar.

His typing I'm skepitcal on.. his only poison STABs are sludge bomb, venoshock (both useless), poison jab and poison sting. All low BP moves.. if he got tinted lens then poison jab+megahorn would give perfect coverage.. however I think a bug/dark type ariados would be pretty cool as well consituring he also gets sucker punch, foul play, and night slash.. maybe only one of those are good but it's not like it'd die and beg for knock off or anything like that. I feel like if mega ariados happened and that this was the BST they came up with and decided to use any of the above abilities.. they'd all probably be running sucker punch + poison jab + megahorn + stickyweb/honeclaws/sub/toxicspikes/shadowsneak/agility.

and of course design wise.. I'd just make it look a bit more fierce and intimidating.. I wouldn't overdesign it like sharpedo or camerupt but just has a few minor physical appearences like absol keeping the base design as much as possible. Like much larger, more fierce looking legs, a bigger horn, a scarier face on it's abdomen, and call it good there.

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iKhan

There are really two ways to do Ledian. 1 is as a fighting boxing bug, as it design points to. 2 is as a defensive pokemon, as it's stats point to. Honestly, I think both Ledian and Ariados are better with full evolutions, but let's talk Mega since we're on the subject. Also, before someone says it, no, I'm not putting more into speed. I view distributing "Fakemon" stats to be a challenge, stuffing a huge numbers in Atk/Sp. Atk and Speed is a really cheap way to make a good pokemon without thought, so I deliberately avoid it.

Ledian (Bug/Flying)
Early Bird
Iron Fist
Swarm
HP: 55
Atk: 35
Def: 50
Sp. Atk: 55
Sp. Def: 110
Spd: 85

Mega Ledian (Bug/Flying)
Mighty Fist: Boosts the strength of punching moves by 50%
HP: 55
Atk: 115 (+80)
Def: 100 (+50)
Sp. Atk: 25 (-30)
Sp. Def: 110
Spd. 85
New signature move:
Shine Punch (Bug/Physical)
Accuracy: 90%
Base Power: 110
Effect: Sharply drops Def, Sp. Def, and Spd in the event of a miss.

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KO-Cub

@MegaBeedrill - I agree on Yanmega. Sheer Force is a good thing to have but kinda Nerfing some of the ability to cause added effects on a move. Adaptibility is mainstream but I think it would be a better choice. Wonder how it would go with Gale Wings. A special Priority mon would stir some. Either way, with an opponents Stealth Rocks out. Unless Yanmega was out before Stealth Rox. Even when you Mega evolve it. It'll get broken down a lot through it's original typing.

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KO-Cub

iKhan wrote:

I view distributing "Fakemon" stats to be a challenge, stuffing a huge numbers in Atk/Sp. Atk and Speed is a really cheap way to make a good pokemon without thought, so I deliberately avoid it.

Ledian (Bug/Flying)
Early Bird
Iron Fist
Swarm
HP: 55
Atk: 35
Def: 50
Sp. Atk: 55
Sp. Def: 110
Spd: 85

Mega Ledian (Bug/Flying)
Mighty Fist: Boosts the strength of punching moves by 50%
HP: 55
Atk: 115 (+80)
Def: 100 (+50)
Sp. Atk: 25 (-30)
Sp. Def: 110
Spd. 85
New signature move:
Shine Punch (Bug/Physical)
Accuracy: 90%
Base Power: 110
Effect: Sharply drops Def, Sp. Def, and Spd in the event of a miss.

I also try to avoid giving Pokemon like this an ability that doesn't exist or a Signature Move.
Also, your Ladian has gone over the 100 Base Stat increase. No matter how much a pokemon's stats reduce when Mega, All Mega pokemon still gain a Max of 100. (And Alakazam is jelly) Your gonna have to decrease 30 from Atk or Def. Choose wisely.

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iKhan

MetalK9 wrote:

iKhan wrote:

I view distributing "Fakemon" stats to be a challenge, stuffing a huge numbers in Atk/Sp. Atk and Speed is a really cheap way to make a good pokemon without thought, so I deliberately avoid it.

Ledian (Bug/Flying)
Early Bird
Iron Fist
Swarm
HP: 55
Atk: 35
Def: 50
Sp. Atk: 55
Sp. Def: 110
Spd: 85

Mega Ledian (Bug/Flying)
Mighty Fist: Boosts the strength of punching moves by 50%
HP: 55
Atk: 115 (+80)
Def: 100 (+50)
Sp. Atk: 25 (-30)
Sp. Def: 110
Spd. 85
New signature move:
Shine Punch (Bug/Physical)
Accuracy: 90%
Base Power: 110
Effect: Sharply drops Def, Sp. Def, and Spd in the event of a miss.

I also try to avoid giving Pokemon like this an ability that doesn't exist or a Signature Move.
Also, your Ladian has gone over the 100 Base Stat increase. No matter how much a pokemon's stats reduce when Mega, All Mega pokemon still gain a Max of 100. (And Alakazam is jelly) Your gonna have to decrease 30 from Atk or Def. Choose wisely.

I almost always make new attacks and abilities. It adds to the creative side and gives me more freedom with potential strategies beyond standard sweeper, tank, or wall

Anyway: 80+50-30=100

And yes, beedrill reallocated stats too in its mega

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Araquanid

MetalK9 wrote:

@MegaBeedrill - I agree on Yanmega. Sheer Force is a good thing to have but kinda Nerfing some of the ability to cause added effects on a move. Adaptibility is mainstream but I think it would be a better choice. Wonder how it would go with Gale Wings. A special Priority mon would stir some. Either way, with an opponents Stealth Rocks out. Unless Yanmega was out before Stealth Rox. Even when you Mega evolve it. It'll get broken down a lot through it's original typing.

Adaptability would be better, I'm just trying to avoid slapping adaptability on everything. Withen two generations adaptability was just slapped on 8 different pokemon. I believe it was one of porygon-z's signature abilities before maybe alongside eevee.. then it just become an excuse to turn pokemon into monsters like beedrill and lucario via mega or hidden ability. We can't just give every mega evolution adaptability, and that is what I see almost every fakemon/mega idea suggesting. Sheer force I think also boost ancient power, which does connect with his evolution so it would make sense to give it some use. Other secondary effects are just flinchs and SpD drops. Air slash flinches may be missed with sheer force but I doubt anybody would stay in chancing to not get a flinch 70% of the time not to mention it's lowish accuracy, and SpD drops never make a difference when you 2HKO nearly everything anyway.

Gale wings sounds cool.. priority defog as a last resort and priority airslash, but... just air slash which isn't all that strong to begin with not to mention speed boost premega lessens the need for priority (just nail talonflame on switch).

Keeping tinted lens might not be bad either.. consituring air slash and bug buzz would be unresisted entirely.

and yeah, a few megas had stat drops; camerupt, sableye, beedrill, garchomp, and diancie.

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Ragingrave

I demand Mega Arcanine with Tough Claws!

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MasterWario

@MegaBeedrill I was thinking something more tanky, say
Reg:
HP: 70
Atk: 90
Def: 70
SpA: 60
SpD: 60
Spe: 40

Mega:
HP: 70
Atk: 110
Def: 135
SpA: 85
SpD: 125
Spe: 40

But I'm not sure, really. I don't know how it would be in the competitive scene. But I definitely agree with making Ariados part dark type. I always thought it was pretty lame that it wasn't to begin with.

In addition, for design, I could totally see it getting some fluffy, cloud-like webbing around itself, and maybe have it dangle down from a string of web so you could see the scary face on its back.

And then in this case Analytic wouldn't be a bad ability, but seems a tad underwhelming for a Mega.

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Araquanid

That is actually something I mentioned but edited out. The bad thing is he's too frail to begin with and lacks recovery for any kind of tankier set. Analytic would be pretty good for any slower set though. 70/135/125 is OK but not good.. it doesn't give me a reason to use him over other walls since his only support moves are baton pass and sticky web without any kind of recovery (fun fact, masquerain would outclass this mega as a sticky webber thanks to intimidate and recovery in roost). I could still see something like ampharos though.. a slow powerhouse but I'm not exactly sure how they'd do that.
I'm not saying your spread is bad or anything but I'm saying even if you slap 100 stat points in one defensive stat it's not worth running him over other walls.

Another fun fact: Ariados is based off these guys. It's be cool if they did emphasize this cause bulbapedia has their arachnids mixed up lol. According to bulbapedias he's an ant mimicing sp.

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I demand Mega Arcanine with Tough Claws!

@ShadowFox254 That's broken.

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MasterWario

@MegaBeedrill Dang that spider is pretty awesome! (Not to mention adorable!)

I see, so it's the move pool that makes it bad as a wall. Well maybe they'll give him some more moves in the next generation or something...thankfully it's up to Game Freak to decide on that.

Ariados has always been one of my favorite Pokemon but there's really no reason to use him. He doesn't do anything interesting except look (kinda) cool, and that poison typing is just lame.

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iKhan

I posted this in the Fakemon creation thread a while back, but I'll repost

Mega Typhlosion:
Type: Fire
Ability: Tough Skin- Immunity to all non-volatile status ailments (Sleep, Paralysis, Poison, Burn, Freeze)
Stats:
HP: 78
Atk: 104
Def: 78
Sp. Atk: 159
Sp. Def: 115
Spd: 100

Reasoning: Typhlosion is a honey badger, and honey badgers have thick skin that grants them immunity to snake toxins and the like. Also, since it's regular stats are the same as Charizard, it makes sense to make it's Mega stats the same too.

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Ragingrave

@MegaBeedrill: I know right?

Regular Arcanine:

HP: 90
At: 110
Def: 80
SpA: 100
SpD: 80
Spe: 95

Mega Arcanine:

HP: 90
At: 140
Def: 100
SpA: 115
SpD: 100
Spe: 120

What do you think?

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Araquanid

@MasterWario actually I use an ariados in ubers

Sticky web is just so trolly to encounter in ubers.. and thanks to insomnia darkrai can't spam dark void or setup. No body else does it and laughs when they see me using it but he quickly becomes the MVP in games after their scarfers and sweepers are all useless. Defog and rapid spin isn't as common in ubers either.

@ShadowFox254 That thing needs banned before it's even created.

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MasterWario

That's pretty neat. Good to hear spider friend is getting some use. Sticky Web seems a lot better than I would initially think it to be.

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