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Toonlink97

21. Posted:

pixelman wrote:

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The GBA had a 32 bit processor, but not much was used to take advantage of it. The games are very SNES-y, (Minish Cap mirroring A Link To The Past with different gameplay elements, Fusion mirroring Super Metroid, Golden Sun mirroring SNES RPG's, several ports/remakes of NES and SNES titles). The resolution of the GBA was far less than the SNES, and looked slightly inferior due to those reasons. As handhelds often lag a generation or two behind (The NES and the GB were similar in displaying their games, though the GB had an inferior Z80 GPU and the GB came out during the NES's life span).

The GB/C had a VERY long lifespan. It is the reason why Nintendo handhelds are now 2 generations behind rather than 1. The pricing will not be anywhere similar to the Wii's in date.

I disagree what you said about the resolution, haha. And of course the games were similar, it's a 2D system. 2D didn't stop them from pricing Neo Geo games at 900 points, and all of those games look worse than what the GBA has to offer. Also, as I said before, the GBA games are bigger in size than an SNES game, which I think could factor into the price.

It's not necessarily what's fair, it's what Nintendo thinks they can charge for it. They're not going to shy away from charging a couple of extra bucks if they can do it. GBA's the most powerful system that could be on the service - like the N64 - and that's why I think it'll get the premium price. :3

The Neo Geo has a more expensive price due to: No one knowing about it,, and the fact that some are pretty rare games. The SNES was more powerful, but it was also more common. You are forgetting that rarity matters a bit when it comes to pricing.

GBA games have always been called to be comparable to the SNES. 2D can go a long way, and if the GBA was powerful enough, it could've exceeded the Super Nintendo far more than it did in its lifespan. It was a portable SNES with power not fully used.

And the resolution was smaller on the GBA. You can compare Super Mario World for the GBA and the original on the SNES and you will see the difference.

Bigger than a SNES game? Since when does memory have to do with pricing? Ocarina of Time is nearly 7 times bigger in memory than Super Mario 64 is. Majora's Mask is nearly 11 times bigger.

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I know the resolution is smaller. I don't agree that it made the games look worse. The GBA's always been compared to the SNES because of the multitude of ports on the system. Apart from that, it's simply a 2D handheld system that's more powerful than its predecessors. Whether or not its games take full advantage of its power is irrelevant. Some of them do, some don't, as with any system. There are plenty of crappy looking SNES games.

All systems have rare games on them, so I don't see what makes the Neo Geo special in this case. Ever heard of Harvest Moon, Earthbound and Chrono Trigger? I could list off more, but I really don't want to bother with it right now. :P

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GBA's the most powerful system that could be on the service - like the N64 - and that's why I think it'll get the premium price. :3

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I know the resolution is smaller. I don't agree that it made the games look worse. The GBA's always been compared to the SNES because of the multitude of ports on the system. Apart from that, it's simply a 2D handheld system that's more powerful than its predecessors. Whether or not its games take full advantage of its power is irrelevant. Some of them do, some don't, as with any system. There are plenty of crappy looking SNES games.

All systems have rare games on them, so I don't see what makes the Neo Geo special in this case. Ever heard of Harvest Moon, Earthbound and Chrono Trigger? I could list off more, but I really don't want to bother with it right now. :P

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GBA's the most powerful system that could be on the service - like the N64 - and that's why I think it'll get the premium price. :3

I'm done here. :3

Of the three rare games you listed... Only one is on the Virtual Console.

The Neo Geo was not a popular system in North America. It was nowhere near as popular as the Gameboy Advance family.

And what exactly is the premium price? At 8 dollars, it is still the highest on my list.

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In defense of pixelman, the Gameboy Advance is undoubtedly stronger than the SNES. Look at the specs and let them speak for themselves. Furthermore, the largest SNES/SFC game was 48mBits while the GBA maxed out at 256mBits...several times larger, no? The GBA also has enough power to emulate the Super Nintendo, and although not nearly perfect, it demonstrates the system's prowess.

800 points just seems a little too low to be realistic when Nintendo is charging 200 points for Game and Watch games. I wouldn't mind being wrong though. :) $10-$15 seems more appropriate; it's Nintendo who charges $10 for a N64 game while Sony charges $5-$10 depending on the game...

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GAME AND WATCH- $2
GAME BOY- $4
GAME BOY COLOR- $5
GAME BOY ADVANCE- $8
NEO GEO POCKET- $7
NEO GEO POCKET COLOR- $8
GAME GEAR- $5
VIRTUAL BOY- $10
WONDERSWAN- $5
LYNX- $5

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Yasume

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What are the chances of a Virtual Handheld anyway? If the 3DS is going to have it, wouldn't it be announced already? Also, does anyone remember when and how the Virtual Console was announced? Did they mention it when they announced the Nintendo Wii or did they announce it later on?

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27. Posted:

I think it would be great if they did this.

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VIRTUAL BOY- $10

Not likely. Nintendo likes to pretend the Virtual Boy never existed.

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It should also be able to play snes and nes games.

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30. Posted:

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It should also be able to play snes and nes games.

Well, at E3, there were tech demos showing off what games like Mega Man 2, Yoshi's Island, Punch-Out!!, and more would look like in 3D. Nintendo's hinting that they will be released someday, so they might be downloads. We'll just have to wait (sadly).

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Hokori

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I want to play Links awakening DX, and DKL because when Gameboy was awesome I found PSONE Awesome and I would love to experience GB truly even though i had one but never really played one until GBA and than only really played Metroids, Pokémon Golden sun 1, and advance wars 1

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I could play mah KIRBIEZ on teh 3DS :O

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Nintendo would be utter fools if they didn't release a Hand held Virtual Console for the 3DS. It's perfect timing, yet I actually thought they would of released a VC with the DSi. Anyways, I'd absolutely love this and hopefully the Hand held VC is launched on day one with the 3DS, the same way the Wii came with it's VC. I mean seriously, I'd be blown away if Nintendo didn't do this :o

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What are the chances of a Virtual Handheld anyway? If the 3DS is going to have it, wouldn't it be announced already? Also, does anyone remember when and how the Virtual Console was announced? Did they mention it when they announced the Nintendo Wii or did they announce it later on?

Anyone?

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Toonlink97

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Yasume wrote:

Yasume wrote:

What are the chances of a Virtual Handheld anyway? If the 3DS is going to have it, wouldn't it be announced already? Also, does anyone remember when and how the Virtual Console was announced? Did they mention it when they announced the Nintendo Wii or did they announce it later on?

Anyone?

If I remember correctly, the Revolution was announced far before the Virtual Console was. But then again, Revolution wasn't the final name...

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With a new paper mario adventure, pokemon black and white, a new mario kart, a remake of Zelda I doubt it.

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37. Posted:

Toonlink97 wrote:

The SNES was more powerful, but it was also more common.

You are wrong sir. The Neo Geo was the most powerful console on the market at the time. But yes, the SNES was more common.

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Hokori

38. Posted:

VC was announced during June of 06 or so I think... so VH might be announced on SEP 29

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39. Posted:

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VC was announced during June of 06 or so I think... so VH might be announced on SEP 29

What does the VC's announcement date have to do with the VH (assuming there is one)?

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LAUNCH TITLES
GAME BOY (400 points, 500 for imports)
Super Mario Land
Tetris
Pokemon Red and Blue
The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
Dr. Mario
Donkey Kong
Kid Icarus: Of Myths and Monsters
Bomberman
Mega Man
Kirby's Dream Land
Metroid

GAME BOY COLOR (500 points, 600 for imports)
Donkey Kong Country
Super Mario Bros. Deluxe
Wario Land 2
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages
Bomberman Pocket
Mega Man Xtreme
Pac Man
Pokemon Yellow: Special Pikachu Edition

GAME GEAR (500 points, 600 for imports)
Sonic the Hedgehog
Columns
Ecco the Dolphin

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