I just hope Nintendo takes all this WiiWare experience and learns from it. We all know the service didn't live up to its potential and it seems the more we find out about the intricacies of the service, we more we wonder why such a thing was rolled out to the public.
As a massive Monkey Island fan, I was sure that I would get every episode of Tales of Monkey Island when available, but one look at the PC version and a quick comparison of prices, reasons to buy each episode on WiiWare evaporated fast. For Wii-only gamers, they would of course buy the game on WiiWare, but people with a choice will likely not. How an amazing and fun series made so little noise on WiiWare is a fair indication of how badly WiiWare has been handled.
I think this is a very good idea. Imagine a service similar to Google Maps with Street View where you are actually travelling through the museum. I'm sure there are other interesting possibilities beside museums that Nintendo can explore, too. Collaborations with the tourism industry to take users to iconic landmarks, for example.
@BJQ1972 - Because he's made it clear that 3D is not something Nintendo is focusing on. It being technologically possible sounds to me, a functionality that isn't a standard feature. This is, of course, based off a translation and the final design could change I suppose, so who knows?
If Capcom makes one, you know it makes sense to grind up the herbs using the touch screen. Shaking the controller to mix two different types together. [Homer Simpson-style drooling]
@madgear - Why are you moaning about a new console being packaged with a new controller?
EDIT: As for stock, they go up and down. I'm sure this dip is because of how little Nintendo has actually revealed about the console. Watch Nintendo's stock rise again in the coming weeks/months.
@y2josh - Initially, I thought the same. The first thing that came to mind was, "Why have 'Wii' and 'U' in the name? The former has been done already and the latter is no different to having a lower case ' i '." The second thing that came to mind was that it sounds too much like the European Union (EU). I still can't get that out of my head and hopefully I've spread it on to some of you readers now.
But now, I see why Nintendo's kept the "Wii" part. If it didn't, it would essentially have to start all over again in building a brand. With "Wii U", it seems to me Nintendo is building on what it has already created (much like Sony and Microsoft's continuation of their respective console names). I'm still not convinced with the chosen suffix. The whole "This product is made for 'you' concept" has been done to death and I personally think it's a bit of a cop out.
Regarding the comments here about the marketing ― and I guess I'm playing devil's advocate here for a sec ― it's much easier to sell a product to a consumer who already has intentions of buying it than it is to convince someone who is either on the fence, unaware or uninterested.
The fact that most of Nintendo's marketing campaigns look and feel the same regardless of what game is being promoted is something I think needs to change. Switch things up a little. Stop making adverts that are interchangeable.
@edhe - I wouldn't say Rockstar "shunned" Nintendo consoles, it did try. I thought Bully: Scholarship Edition, Manhunt 2 and Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars are all good games, especially Chinatown Wars. Whether reported poor sales were because of game concepts or advertising/marketing, I don't think it's fair to infer Rockstar didn't bother. I certainly hope more Rockstar IPs arrive on the 3DS and Wii U, but even if they do, it's no use if the target audience doesn't see the 3DS or Wii U as consoles that cater for those types of games.
With the recent interest from third-party companies regarding the Wii U, it seems Nintendo finally realises that imposing restrictions on developers because it doesn't want to do what others are doing is counter-productive no matter which way you look at it.
I see no reason why a Red Steel 3 won't happen somewhere further down the line, but regarding the titles that Ubisoft has announced, I must admit I'm only moderately excited. Assassin's Creed can get boring and repetitive, Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Online might be fun if a substantial online community emerges and the unnamed FPS might make good use of the Wii U features. Then again, it might not. We'll see.
I'm a massive Tintin fan and the fact that Joe Cornish and Edgar Wright are involved with the screenplay seals the deal for me.
I just hope these video game adaptations are worth the time and money and not a mindless way of cashing in on the film. "Exploration, puzzle-solving and combat" sounds like a good mixture to me. I've always thought a Tintin point & click puzzle game would be more than appropriate but this also sounds like it could work. Can't wait to know more.
If true, it won't be a dedicated handheld console, it will essentially still be a controller. You're not going to find game slots on it. Or will you? Hmm, I'd like there to be a DVD slot.
On a serious note, I worry about the battery consumption with all this supposed functionality.
@Usagi-san Kids that fight will fight regardless of what a video game aims to achieve. From what Troy Sheets says, the aim is to show users how to work different muscle groups without hurting yourself, but I do understand your concern. I just don't think it will be an issue. I agree that there are right ways and wrong ways to working out, so it will be interesting to see how each version factors in how body movements are recorded given each console's different approach to motion control.
Is this pointless? I don't think so. Given the number of exercise DVDs that are available, I'm sure there are productive ways of getting fit even if you are following instructions on-screen as opposed to an actual person. The trick is to pick and choose what is taught.
@The Fox I've never tried fitness video games before, but if I can work up a sweat playing Just Dance (I may regret admitting this), then I'm sure fitness games (especially this which aims to provide high-intensity routines) will be of some worth.
I'm hoping a Tofu mode will be included in the Revelations game instead, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is what Kawata is talking about regarding Mercenaries.
Anyways, I didn't think the weapons were that bad in The Conduit, but it's always good to see developers trying new things and striving to make them better. Is there anything you guys want to or don't want to see weapon-wise in Conduit 2?
EDIT: @Kr5eegs07 Online seems to be a one-player affair, although there are offline multiplayer modes that can be played via split screen.
@turtlelink Not for the launch event, but if you click on the link in the article, you can see that the tour still has a few dates left in Montreal this weekend.
I think the main concern is the ambiguity, both in game content and marketing. Having spent so many years in the industry, PEGI knows what it's doing. The public reaction is probably more to do with the way Ubisoft is suggesting this is a party game with an adult theme even though the ratings board deems it suitable for 12-year-olds. Is this blown out of proportion? Probably. Does Ubisoft need to be more decisive with its marketing campaigns? Probably. Would parents think that We Dare is something suitable for their young teens judging by the adverts? Probably not. Personally, I think the more regions that won't be getting this game the better as it makes it less likely to sell big numbers and spawn a sequel. Ubisoft, just because games like the Just Dance series is flying off the shelves, doesn't mean you should make less compelling games.
They might even announce a whole new periphral for the Wii enticing more developers to develop.
Because developers have gotten all they can out of the Wii Speak and Wii Vitality Sensor. Oh wait...
Back on topic, as well as the range of DS handhelds have sold, I'm optimistically confident that the 3DS will perform even better. The effort that Nintendo is already showing in securing partnerships with companies outside of the gaming industry is a very good sign indeed. It should mean the services will not only be advertised by Nintendo, but by the companies they are working with too. Hopefully.
@wes008 Hotspots are places where you can log on to a network and access the Internet, much like the wireless router you may have in your house. So if you're, for example, at a coffee shop that has a Wi-Fi hotspot, you can connect to it and go online.
@JDO What I mean is the game only requires a handful of hours to finish. How many more you spend playing after reaching the end is of course, up to you. It's not a bad game, but personally, I don't have the incentive to "perfect" every level and complete all the challenges because there's no reward as such for all the repetition.
I'm gutted about the DJ Hero series. No doubt FreeStyleGames had something in DJ Hero 3 that was different to the first two. The 3DS instalment would have been interesting too. [tuts]
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Re: Wii U Controller Patent Reveals Interesting Features
@skywake - Patent papers are not fun.
Re: Feature: The State of WiiWare
I just hope Nintendo takes all this WiiWare experience and learns from it. We all know the service didn't live up to its potential and it seems the more we find out about the intricacies of the service, we more we wonder why such a thing was rolled out to the public.
As a massive Monkey Island fan, I was sure that I would get every episode of Tales of Monkey Island when available, but one look at the PC version and a quick comparison of prices, reasons to buy each episode on WiiWare evaporated fast. For Wii-only gamers, they would of course buy the game on WiiWare, but people with a choice will likely not. How an amazing and fun series made so little noise on WiiWare is a fair indication of how badly WiiWare has been handled.
Re: ESRB Rating Offers Intel on Aliens: Infestation
@Sephariel - I must have accidentally taken it out. Anyway, article's been amended now.
Re: 3DS Could Be Your Ticket to International Museums
I think this is a very good idea. Imagine a service similar to Google Maps with Street View where you are actually travelling through the museum. I'm sure there are other interesting possibilities beside museums that Nintendo can explore, too. Collaborations with the tourism industry to take users to iconic landmarks, for example.
Re: Wii U is Technically 3D-Ready
@BJQ1972 - Because he's made it clear that 3D is not something Nintendo is focusing on. It being technologically possible sounds to me, a functionality that isn't a standard feature. This is, of course, based off a translation and the final design could change I suppose, so who knows?
Re: Vigil Games Talks About Wii U Development and Darksiders II
@Mickeymac - http://www.vigilgames.com/details/Darksiders-II-Wii-U-Launch-Title
Re: Ocarina of Time at One Point Confined Within Ganon's Castle
@Master_Genesis - It's like horse riding but less serious.
Re: Rumour: The Mercenaries 3D to be Recalled in Australia
@626b - Well of course you can get refunds on faulty goods because they are not supposed to be faulty.
@DarkKirby - Where does it mention retailers selling old games as new?
Re: Kawata: "I'd Love to Make a Resident Evil for Wii U"
If Capcom makes one, you know it makes sense to grind up the herbs using the touch screen. Shaking the controller to mix two different types together. [Homer Simpson-style drooling]
Re: Pachter: Wii U is Too Late, 'Dumbest Name Ever'
@xDemon720X - What's Michael Pachter got to do with Sony?
Re: Wii U and Its Controller Near Their Final Form Factor
I'm just glad there isn't a handle on the console.
Re: Following Wii U Unveiling, Nintendo Shares Drop 10%
@madgear - Why are you moaning about a new console being packaged with a new controller?
EDIT: As for stock, they go up and down. I'm sure this dip is because of how little Nintendo has actually revealed about the console. Watch Nintendo's stock rise again in the coming weeks/months.
Re: Wii U Hopes to Rectify Problems that Wii is Experiencing
@y2josh - Initially, I thought the same. The first thing that came to mind was, "Why have 'Wii' and 'U' in the name? The former has been done already and the latter is no different to having a lower case ' i '." The second thing that came to mind was that it sounds too much like the European Union (EU). I still can't get that out of my head and hopefully I've spread it on to some of you readers now.
But now, I see why Nintendo's kept the "Wii" part. If it didn't, it would essentially have to start all over again in building a brand. With "Wii U", it seems to me Nintendo is building on what it has already created (much like Sony and Microsoft's continuation of their respective console names). I'm still not convinced with the chosen suffix. The whole "This product is made for 'you' concept" has been done to death and I personally think it's a bit of a cop out.
Re: Wii U Hopes to Rectify Problems that Wii is Experiencing
Regarding the comments here about the marketing ― and I guess I'm playing devil's advocate here for a sec ― it's much easier to sell a product to a consumer who already has intentions of buying it than it is to convince someone who is either on the fence, unaware or uninterested.
The fact that most of Nintendo's marketing campaigns look and feel the same regardless of what game is being promoted is something I think needs to change. Switch things up a little. Stop making adverts that are interchangeable.
@edhe - I wouldn't say Rockstar "shunned" Nintendo consoles, it did try. I thought Bully: Scholarship Edition, Manhunt 2 and Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars are all good games, especially Chinatown Wars. Whether reported poor sales were because of game concepts or advertising/marketing, I don't think it's fair to infer Rockstar didn't bother. I certainly hope more Rockstar IPs arrive on the 3DS and Wii U, but even if they do, it's no use if the target audience doesn't see the 3DS or Wii U as consoles that cater for those types of games.
With the recent interest from third-party companies regarding the Wii U, it seems Nintendo finally realises that imposing restrictions on developers because it doesn't want to do what others are doing is counter-productive no matter which way you look at it.
Re: Ubisoft Announces Wii U Support with IPs Old and New
I see no reason why a Red Steel 3 won't happen somewhere further down the line, but regarding the titles that Ubisoft has announced, I must admit I'm only moderately excited. Assassin's Creed can get boring and repetitive, Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Online might be fun if a substantial online community emerges and the unnamed FPS might make good use of the Wii U features. Then again, it might not. We'll see.
Re: Thundering Typhoons, Details Regarding Tintin: The Game
I'm a massive Tintin fan and the fact that Joe Cornish and Edgar Wright are involved with the screenplay seals the deal for me.
I just hope these video game adaptations are worth the time and money and not a mindless way of cashing in on the film. "Exploration, puzzle-solving and combat" sounds like a good mixture to me. I've always thought a Tintin point & click puzzle game would be more than appropriate but this also sounds like it could work. Can't wait to know more.
Re: Tetris Slots into Place this October on 3DS
If the furniture is arranged so that it fits the width of the room, will they disappear?
Re: Even Mercenaries Need a Fresh Change of Clothes
@Jango-Forest - I just find it amusing that given the troubled past Barry has had to endure, he should decide to wear something so... flamboyant.
Re: Nikkei Corroborates Previous Wii 2 Controller Rumours
If true, it won't be a dedicated handheld console, it will essentially still be a controller. You're not going to find game slots on it. Or will you? Hmm, I'd like there to be a DVD slot.
On a serious note, I worry about the battery consumption with all this supposed functionality.
Re: Mega Man: Dr Wily's Revenge Coming to 3DS VC
@Mugen - Shhh, you saw nothing.
Re: Tennis
This game brings back memories. And yeah, so much fun. At least that's how I remember it.
Re: Europe, This Is Your eShop Launch Day Line-Up
It will be interesting to see what kind of cross-promotion we'll see when the video service launches. The frequency of new content will be vital.
Re: Mutant Mudds Now Launching on the eShop
@Stuffgamer1 - Edited now. That one's gotten me at least a couple of times.
Re: Ocarina of Time 3D is a Smoother Experience than Before
@Kid_A - As a good gesture, I try to ruin the happiness of as many people as I can. It makes me giggly.
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles' Alternative Cover has been Decided
It projects a nice contrast of moods. I like.
Re: Barry Burton Rounds Off The Mercenaries 3D Cast Members
@GuardianAcorn - Save him for the sequel.
Re: Miyamoto Explains the Chubby Appearance of Mario
@warioswoods - "... all anyone cares about is the brief mention of Mario."
That's not a broad statement at all, and I admire the way you effortlessly stay on topic.
Re: Review: Chronicles of Mystery: The Secret Tree of Life (DS)
@JumpMad - The story's not particularly long but it's decent enough. A fair number of plot points keep things moving.
@JayArr - Honestly speaking, not one of my favourite puzzle games, but a good effort from City Interactive. I'd certainly like to see more.
Re: Work Out With Your Own UFC Personal Trainer This June
@Usagi-san
Kids that fight will fight regardless of what a video game aims to achieve. From what Troy Sheets says, the aim is to show users how to work different muscle groups without hurting yourself, but I do understand your concern. I just don't think it will be an issue. I agree that there are right ways and wrong ways to working out, so it will be interesting to see how each version factors in how body movements are recorded given each console's different approach to motion control.
Is this pointless? I don't think so. Given the number of exercise DVDs that are available, I'm sure there are productive ways of getting fit even if you are following instructions on-screen as opposed to an actual person. The trick is to pick and choose what is taught.
@The Fox
I've never tried fitness video games before, but if I can work up a sweat playing Just Dance (I may regret admitting this), then I'm sure fitness games (especially this which aims to provide high-intensity routines) will be of some worth.
Re: Capcom Brings New Super Mario Bros. Wii to the Arcades
@Mugen
Then my job here is done.
Re: Kawata Hints at Fan-Favourite Unlockables in The Mercenaries 3D
@beastman93
Yep, sorted now.
I'm hoping a Tofu mode will be included in the Revelations game instead, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is what Kawata is talking about regarding Mercenaries.
Re: 3DS Helps Developers Render Fog Effects Via Its Own Chip
@aaronsullivan
Yes, the fog is volumeteric. I'll clarify that in the article.
Re: Get Fired Up Over This Conduit 2 Weapons Preview
Anyways, I didn't think the weapons were that bad in The Conduit, but it's always good to see developers trying new things and striving to make them better. Is there anything you guys want to or don't want to see weapon-wise in Conduit 2?
EDIT:
@Kr5eegs07
Online seems to be a one-player affair, although there are offline multiplayer modes that can be played via split screen.
Re: Get Fired Up Over This Conduit 2 Weapons Preview
@pixelman
You saw SEGA's blog entry that was published today months ago? You must have special powers.
Re: Canadian 3DS Launch Event Split Between Two Cities
@turtlelink
Not for the launch event, but if you click on the link in the article, you can see that the tour still has a few dates left in Montreal this weekend.
Re: Sega Releases New Super Monkey Ball 3D Trailer
Hey Corbs, would you say this game is a good example of how responsive the Circle Pad is?
Re: BlazBlue: Continuum Shift 2 Scrapping with Europe this Year
@Bulbasaurus Rex
That's just semantics. The point is, this is a return to the "one on one" game mechanic, unlike the spin-off.
Re: Wii is the Fastest Console in U.S. History to Shift 35 Million Units
@GEOFF
Just got back from the patent office, have ya?
Re: Tenchu Developer is Working on an RPG for the 3DS
Fixed now.
Re: Who Dares to Release We Dare in the UK? Not Ubisoft!
I think the main concern is the ambiguity, both in game content and marketing. Having spent so many years in the industry, PEGI knows what it's doing. The public reaction is probably more to do with the way Ubisoft is suggesting this is a party game with an adult theme even though the ratings board deems it suitable for 12-year-olds. Is this blown out of proportion? Probably. Does Ubisoft need to be more decisive with its marketing campaigns? Probably. Would parents think that We Dare is something suitable for their young teens judging by the adverts? Probably not. Personally, I think the more regions that won't be getting this game the better as it makes it less likely to sell big numbers and spawn a sequel. Ubisoft, just because games like the Just Dance series is flying off the shelves, doesn't mean you should make less compelling games.
Re: Tenchu Developer is Working on an RPG for the 3DS
The RPG series from Acquire is Class of Heroes. Perhaps Love is getting it mixed up with Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes?
Re: Iwata Talks 3DS Expectations and Wii Successor
@xDemon720x
Because developers have gotten all they can out of the Wii Speak and Wii Vitality Sensor. Oh wait...
Back on topic, as well as the range of DS handhelds have sold, I'm optimistically confident that the 3DS will perform even better. The effort that Nintendo is already showing in securing partnerships with companies outside of the gaming industry is a very good sign indeed. It should mean the services will not only be advertised by Nintendo, but by the companies they are working with too. Hopefully.
Re: Iwata: Monthly 3G Fees Will Decrease the NGP Userbase
@moosa
Indeed. Fixed now, thanks.
Re: Skyward Sword Combat Trailer Shows Plenty of MotionPlus
If in doubt, go with Zelda in disguise.
EDIT: I'm going with Zelda's uncle.
Re: Skyward Sword Combat Trailer Shows Plenty of MotionPlus
I just hope I won't have to place the Wii Remote face down on a flat surface for a few seconds too much.
Re: AT&T Grants 3DS Owners Free Access to 10,000 Hotspots
@wes008
Hotspots are places where you can log on to a network and access the Internet, much like the wireless router you may have in your house. So if you're, for example, at a coffee shop that has a Wi-Fi hotspot, you can connect to it and go online.
Re: Ridge Racer 3D Packed with Content, Despite Being on a Handheld
@KrazyKain
That doesn't necessarily mean developers will fill a game cartridge up to the brim.
Re: Review: Jewels of the Tropical Lost Island (DS)
@JDO
What I mean is the game only requires a handful of hours to finish. How many more you spend playing after reaching the end is of course, up to you. It's not a bad game, but personally, I don't have the incentive to "perfect" every level and complete all the challenges because there's no reward as such for all the repetition.
Re: Activision Disbands Guitar Hero Business, No Entry in 2011
I'm gutted about the DJ Hero series. No doubt FreeStyleGames had something in DJ Hero 3 that was different to the first two. The 3DS instalment would have been interesting too. [tuts]
Re: 3DS Update in May Includes eShop and Other Applications
@Sakura_Moonlight2421
That's right.