The big band Medley is months old and they didn't only do Super Smash by the way. They orchestrated Zelda, Mario, Pokemon, Donkey Kong, Kirby and much more. There were 5 parts to the whole Big Band show.
@antonvaltaz AD hominen attacks indeed and I do agree that the attacks were unnecessary. For that I do excuse myself.
Now for the topic at hand.
''Whether something is "canon" or not (and for goodness sake, this is just a computer game series, not some piece of great literature) is completely irrelevant. What IS relevant is whether this is objectifying women in order to help sell videogames to men - and it clearly is, and as a Nintendo fan I am allowed to be disappointed with that.''
Although it is a computer game series, like many other computer game series canonicity is important mind you. Metroid has timeline, Zelda has a timeline and both of those games have elements that are canon to the series. If canonicity wasn't important in this computer game series then to you it might seem that Metroid Pinball, The CD-i Zelda games and Hyrule Warriors are canon to the timeline. Right? So yes even if this isn't some piece of litterature, canon in these computer video games are important. Moving on.
I really don't get how you guys can say she is being objectified. Sexualized? Arguably. But objectified? Haha no! To objectify is to treat someone without regard for their dignity. Let's see. By making this version of Zero Suit Samus, did Sakurai strip her of her dignity? No. Did he make her weak? No. Did he make her a slave to men? No. Did he make her weaker than her previous entry? NO he even changed her moveset and made her stronger!! He DID NOT strip her of her dignity. Check what the words you are about to use actually mean before using them. Because wearing a sports bras she is being objectified? No not at all.
If this outfit was made in order to sell the game to men. Then the Mario american outfit was made to sell to Americans right? I mean it will reach that demographic since the Wii U isn't selling so well in the US they have to reach the americans somehow(not)
I don't understand how you think this outfit will just be to sell to men. What about the women. I have a some females friends who think this outfit is good looking and cool. They also say they would play as this Samus most of the time. They aren't males yet they are the ones among my friends that have a had the ''I would play as this version of Samus all the time'' response. Not only because they find it cool but also because they think its a nice addition to add an outfit from a previous Metroid game. I'm a male. What was my reaction you ask? My reaction was basically '' wow Samus looks good but I thinks she looks better with her Zero suit from the Metroid Prime 3: Corruption(Thats the first time I had saw a 3DS model of her in the Zero suit).''
This outfit was also in this game due to a female developer on the team. She must have thought this would be a cool addition to the game. I mean this is from a game in the Metroid series and not some bikini piece they decided to put on Samus just because they could. SO it was a FEMALE that decided to add this design, NOT a male.
@antonvaltaz OR MAYBE it`s because this is actually a in canon outfit. But you wouldn't know that since you probably haven't played all the Metroid games and you`re here to complain for no reason at all.
Let me ask you a question. Why does Mario have an American outfit as alternative costume? Picture:http://www.technobuffalo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Super-Smash-Bros.jpg
Your response would probably sound like something like this: Look. There is NO reason for Mario to be dressed in that outfit other than to titillate Americans. None.
See how idiotic that sounds. And since you probably won't understand that it isn't to titillate Americans I am here to tell you that this oufit was a NES golf game. Just like Samus' outfit was a in game outfit.
@Spoony_Tech This is probably set on the lowest difficulty to show the weapon's ability. It would really be counter productive if it was set on the highest difficulty and the player would get hit before even using an attack.
@ikki5 There will be more difficulties than this don't worry. The video would be hard to do if this was set on the highest difficulty and you would be massacred by the waves of enemies, unable to show the weapons' ability
That last scan made me laugh. Thats definitely Brawly there. His design is kinda funny and pretty different from the one I remember.Loving the Gameboy Advance inspired pokedex which is great throwback since R&S appeared on it(though I did own a SP).
Really looking forward to the Gym leaders redesign.
I choose Splatoon. I was going to go for Zelda but honestly Splatoon just felt like the choice to go for. This new I.P in shooter genre just feels so refreshing and it looks great. But Zelda comes extremely close and Super Smash also.
I loled at Star Fox when Miyamoto was playing. What a troll.
OMG I know right!! They are giving a WOMEN BOOBS!!! OMG STOP NINTENDO/sacrasm
Lol come on guys, really?
Look at the previous version of Samus. In the Super Smash version and other M version of Zero Suit samus, she is wearing much more clothes than her previous version. So Xtremetdifan, I ask the following. If Nintendo has ruined Samus' image with the Zero Suit of Super Smash, what would you say about the previous ones where her body is much more uncovered?
I really don't get how you guys can say she is being objectified. Sexualized? Arguably. But objectified? Haha no! To objectify is to treat someone without regard for their dignity. Let's see. By making this version of Zero Suit Samus, did Sakurai strip her of her dignity? No. Did he make her weak? No. Did he make her a slave to men? No. Did he make her weaker than her previous entry? NO he even changed her moveset and made her stronger!! He DID NOT strip her of her dignity. Check what the words you are about to use actually mean before using them.
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Re: Check Out these Remastered Metroid and Super Smash Bros. Themes
The big band Medley is months old and they didn't only do Super Smash by the way. They orchestrated Zelda, Mario, Pokemon, Donkey Kong, Kirby and much more. There were 5 parts to the whole Big Band show.
Here is a link to the whole orchestrated themes:
1. Mario Bros series: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GF3JYa0ql4&list=UUtivVbVHLoYcL4WsPflLC1w
2. Donkey Kong and Zelda: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BGFFZ3nDxk&list=UUtivVbVHLoYcL4WsPflLC1w
3. Kirby and Animal Crossing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUfT_Qhp_Sw&list=UUtivVbVHLoYcL4WsPflLC1w&index=4
4. Pokemon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hf50QG0OjI&index=3&list=UUtivVbVHLoYcL4WsPflLC1w
The fifth one is of course Super Smash Bros.
Just to add. Some people from that Big Band also made music for Mario Kart 8.
Re: Talking Point: A History of the Sexualisation of Samus
@antonvaltaz AD hominen attacks indeed and I do agree that the attacks were unnecessary. For that I do excuse myself.
Now for the topic at hand.
''Whether something is "canon" or not (and for goodness sake, this is just a computer game series, not some piece of great literature) is completely irrelevant. What IS relevant is whether this is objectifying women in order to help sell videogames to men - and it clearly is, and as a Nintendo fan I am allowed to be disappointed with that.''
Although it is a computer game series, like many other computer game series canonicity is important mind you. Metroid has timeline, Zelda has a timeline and both of those games have elements that are canon to the series. If canonicity wasn't important in this computer game series then to you it might seem that Metroid Pinball, The CD-i Zelda games and Hyrule Warriors are canon to the timeline. Right? So yes even if this isn't some piece of litterature, canon in these computer video games are important. Moving on.
I really don't get how you guys can say she is being objectified. Sexualized? Arguably. But objectified? Haha no! To objectify is to treat someone without regard for their dignity. Let's see. By making this version of Zero Suit Samus, did Sakurai strip her of her dignity? No. Did he make her weak? No. Did he make her a slave to men? No. Did he make her weaker than her previous entry? NO he even changed her moveset and made her stronger!! He DID NOT strip her of her dignity. Check what the words you are about to use actually mean before using them. Because wearing a sports bras she is being objectified? No not at all.
If this outfit was made in order to sell the game to men. Then the Mario american outfit was made to sell to Americans right? I mean it will reach that demographic since the Wii U isn't selling so well in the US they have to reach the americans somehow(not)
I don't understand how you think this outfit will just be to sell to men. What about the women. I have a some females friends who think this outfit is good looking and cool. They also say they would play as this Samus most of the time. They aren't males yet they are the ones among my friends that have a had the ''I would play as this version of Samus all the time'' response. Not only because they find it cool but also because they think its a nice addition to add an outfit from a previous Metroid game. I'm a male. What was my reaction you ask? My reaction was basically '' wow Samus looks good but I thinks she looks better with her Zero suit from the Metroid Prime 3: Corruption(Thats the first time I had saw a 3DS model of her in the Zero suit).''
This outfit was also in this game due to a female developer on the team. She must have thought this would be a cool addition to the game. I mean this is from a game in the Metroid series and not some bikini piece they decided to put on Samus just because they could. SO it was a FEMALE that decided to add this design, NOT a male.
Sorry for the wall of text everyone
Re: Talking Point: A History of the Sexualisation of Samus
@SockoMario Yep thats what I hate.
Re: Talking Point: A History of the Sexualisation of Samus
@River3636 What do you mean?
Re: Talking Point: A History of the Sexualisation of Samus
@antonvaltaz OR MAYBE it`s because this is actually a in canon outfit. But you wouldn't know that since you probably haven't played all the Metroid games and you`re here to complain for no reason at all.
Let me ask you a question. Why does Mario have an American outfit as alternative costume? Picture:http://www.technobuffalo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Super-Smash-Bros.jpg
Your response would probably sound like something like this: Look. There is NO reason for Mario to be dressed in that outfit other than to titillate Americans. None.
See how idiotic that sounds. And since you probably won't understand that it isn't to titillate Americans I am here to tell you that this oufit was a NES golf game. Just like Samus' outfit was a in game outfit.
Re: Video: Watch Zelda Lay The Smackdown With The Wind Waker In Hyrule Warriors
@Spoony_Tech This is probably set on the lowest difficulty to show the weapon's ability. It would really be counter productive if it was set on the highest difficulty and the player would get hit before even using an attack.
Re: Nintendo 'Smashes' Into Comic-Con With Various Games, Tournaments and Events
GOOD thing Nintendo. Keep this up!!
Wish I could be there though.
Re: Video: Watch Zelda Lay The Smackdown With The Wind Waker In Hyrule Warriors
@ikki5 There will be more difficulties than this don't worry. The video would be hard to do if this was set on the highest difficulty and you would be massacred by the waves of enemies, unable to show the weapons' ability
Re: Captain Falcon, Chrom, Lucina and Robin All Join The Super Smash Bros. Roster
Sakurai thank you. But way to reopen a wound
When is he getting his own game??
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/replies/AYMHAAACAAAYUKlc3tVw5Q
Re: CoroCoro Magazine Shows the Pokédex and More for Pokémon Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire
You guys missed a few cool images. As if Phoebe couldn't look any cuter than before. Sydney looks like an even bigger douche tbh.
http://www.serebii.net/corocoro8148.jpg
http://www.serebii.net/corocoro8147.jpg
Re: CoroCoro Magazine Shows the Pokédex and More for Pokémon Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire
@LunaticPandora Sadly yes it will be wasted on the youth of today which is a shame.
Re: CoroCoro Magazine Shows the Pokédex and More for Pokémon Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire
That last scan made me laugh. Thats definitely Brawly there. His design is kinda funny and pretty different from the one I remember.Loving the Gameboy Advance inspired pokedex which is great throwback since R&S appeared on it(though I did own a SP).
Really looking forward to the Gym leaders redesign.
Re: Poll: Your Favourite Showing from Nintendo During E3 Day One
I choose Splatoon. I was going to go for Zelda but honestly Splatoon just felt like the choice to go for. This new I.P in shooter genre just feels so refreshing and it looks great. But Zelda comes extremely close and Super Smash also.
I loled at Star Fox when Miyamoto was playing. What a troll.
Re: Nintendo Direct: Special Mario Kart 8 Direct Shows New Features, Racers And Items
MY BODY WAS NOT READY FOR THIS!!!
Re: Fresh Super Smash Bros. Screens Show Zero Suit Samus in Action
@Xtremetdifan @luckybreak
OMG I know right!! They are giving a WOMEN BOOBS!!! OMG STOP NINTENDO/sacrasm
Lol come on guys, really?
Look at the previous version of Samus. In the Super Smash version and other M version of Zero Suit samus, she is wearing much more clothes than her previous version. So Xtremetdifan, I ask the following. If Nintendo has ruined Samus' image with the Zero Suit of Super Smash, what would you say about the previous ones where her body is much more uncovered?
I really don't get how you guys can say she is being objectified. Sexualized? Arguably. But objectified? Haha no! To objectify is to treat someone without regard for their dignity. Let's see. By making this version of Zero Suit Samus, did Sakurai strip her of her dignity? No. Did he make her weak? No. Did he make her a slave to men? No. Did he make her weaker than her previous entry? NO he even changed her moveset and made her stronger!! He DID NOT strip her of her dignity. Check what the words you are about to use actually mean before using them.