Hoo boy, the 'Nintendo Switch 2' hype train has well and truly called at Station Rumourville, because this is potentially a rather big one, folks.
A series of photos and mockups has been posted via a Chinese forum (and subsequently shared on Reddit and Famiboards) which detail what appear to be either prototypes or mockups for the upcoming Switch Successor. It's important to be absolutely clear on this one; there is no evidence that this is genuine, however the design and the accompanying specs do seem to be reasonably realistic.
The photos and mockups have been shared via social media from the likes of VGC's Andy Robinson and YouTuber 'Aero', however you can view the whole lot, including the photos, over on Reddit:
The design appears to showcase slightly larger, more rounded Joy-Con, with the right one sporting an additional button below the Home button. The attachment rails are also different, suggesting that Nintendo has indeed adopted a magnetic mechanism for the new console. An additional USB slot can be spotted on the top side next to the audio jack, and a couple of interesting extra buttons/triggers can be seen on the back of the Joy-Con, as previously rumoured.
As for the specs (which can be viewed via imgur), we're potentially looking at 12GB Ram, HDMI 2.1 support, and 256GB internal storage.
Tech experts Digital Foundry have also weighed in with a post on social media commenting on the leak's potential authenticity. They say that "This is the most interesting/plausible Switch 2 leak image", asking why someone would go to the bother of faking a mainboard. However, DF also notes the small battery chamber in the unit, asking users to keep expectations in check when it comes to the console's handheld performance. Of course, if the photo is depicting an early prototype, then certain aspects may be subject to change.
To reiterate, this may all be completely bogus. However, this is likely the most pausible glimpse at Nintendo's upcoming hardware so far. Hopefully we'll get an official announcement soon, because this is all becoming a bit too much, y'know?
What do you make of the information shared online regarding Switch 2? Reckon it's real? Share your thoughts with a comment in the usual place.
[source reddit.com, via x.com]
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I had a look at it. Looks like a bigger screen but skinnier switch which is great imo. Anybody want to figure out how much power it got? Does it match ps4 pro or series s?
Edit. Got the answers. Now I'm hyped. Wonder what it will cost... Hopefully a September reveal is incoming.
Dang it Mario. You were suppose to stop leaks. This is what happens when you spend all day eating mushrooms instead of plumbing.
This seems real but it is always good to be cautious about it.
If Nintendo wasn't planning on announcing it soon, they probably will be now
12 GB ram and 256 GB storage seems very promising, really hope this is true
@BIG3 It's got more RAM than the Series S, at least - 12GB vs. 10GB.
Meh, not the first nor the last "leaked" model design for the Switch successor.
Uh oh, it looks a bit too similar to the regular Switch we have now.. I do hope Nintendo changes it up quite a bit with the outward design - and the name - otherwise we'll be going into another Wii U era. Please no.
I sure hope to god they give us a proper D-Pad, Nintendo's true pride and joy!
I love how it's a mash up of the Lite design and the Switch OLED. I hope it's real as I much prefer the Lite's rounded edges, joycons still flat though with no contour.
@Olliemar28 Cool. Then its off to a great start. Im a huge fan of the Series S capabilities so if Switch 2 can match it this will be a nice gen for Nintendo.
@Magician When the Switch Lite rear shell was leaked so so so so so many people called it fake, and yet it turned out to be 100% the real thing. So don't be surprised if these leaks are real.
@BIG3 supposed spec leak-
the speed department, but more capacity than XSS. Should have 10.5-11 GB
of RAM available to games going by the Switch 1's RAM allotment for its
OS.
NateDrake heard about decompression techniques & fast load times of
the BotW tech demo (respectively for each source).
systems compared, it's also Nvidia vs. AMD. There are plenty of factors
at play to where it's not an apples-to-apples comparison. Plus the
native Tensor cores of the Switch 2 will allow for DLSS, letting the
system punch above its weight & decrease the size of the gap between
it & the XSS. Nintendo could throttle down the SoC to the floor,
but I'm not sure it'll be a doomsday scenario since this is a custom
chip to begin with
Source: https://www.resetera.com/threads/switch-2-release-speculation-and-rumors-check-threadmark-for-potential-specs.804501/page-16?post=122746518#post-122746518
@Maubari I think they will be fine as long as they call it Switch 2, Super Switch or Switch Advanced maybe. And make sure it is properly stated on the box that this is their next gen console.
@MitchaK thank you for the info!
Pass. These types of leaks have happened for years and no news about its announcement. I'm gonna go insane if it's called "Switch 2".
You know what, I really hope they'll announce this thing soon, so we can finally get some GAME related news, which is should be all about. I'm so tired of all this speculation...
I hope this is real, because wow that is classy.
And here. We. Go.
If that's the new Joy-Con L, it looks like they've improved the controller release mechanism, from what used to be tiny dots to buttons that press insides from the side.
I initially thought that it was the ZL button but that was misunderstood.
Also if it's sincerely 12GB then that's fantastic, that should be more than enough for dedicated gaming as it doesn't have to worry about OS overhead like gaming PCs.
The question is how much of that 12GB is accessible to the games, and which is allocated for the firmware / home menu.
The probability that it'll use UFS MicroSDs (which have a different connector pin layout) is also good news, but consumers will need to understand the difference and that their current microSD cards, if supported, may incur much longer loading times.
Leaks and rumors, I just want the real news already, but things really seem to be ramping up to a September reveal.
I dunno, I’m very skeptical. Seems very smooth and everything is pushed so close to the edges, and like it would be slippery to hold. And also, PLEASE NINTENDO give us a proper d-pad.
@Pillowpants Because of this leak I'm willing to bet a reveal coming next week. Would be weird to have a September without a Direct anyways...
@luciobar1980 I looked through all the leaked pictures and there doesnt seem to be a proper d-pad on the left joycon.
@stuie1234 I think that’s more a size comparison but ya never know
I must admit i am quite convinced by those
These rumors are killing me. With the number of grains of salt I’ve had to take, I’m so dehydrated.
I’m stoked for a completely gray Switch though.
While I’m sitting here eating pinches of salt, 12Gb of ram and 256gb storage would be good if true.
Definitely keep that saltshaker handy, but IF this is legit, I’m going to be so underwhelmed about this being a big, beautiful, but boring Switch. The games will be all I care for, and they are what really matter, after all. It’ll be cool to see Nintendo games officially in 4K, but not much else.
Please have the name make it stand out so the casuals don’t think it’s just another Switch model. Has Nintendo really learned from Wii U?
Loads of people claiming the switch 2 as having more ram at 12 gb compared to the series S at 10 gb. While that is true in capacity, it is very poor way of viewing it. The switch 2 will be maxed at 112 gb/s while the serie s is 224 gb/s. 10 gb at 224 gb/s will smoke 12 gb at 112 gb/s.
The switch 2 will be a lovely jump and will be day 1 for me, but people need to consider memory bandwidth. TDP plays a role as well, given there is a good chance the switch 2 will need to be underclocked.
@Magician photo of the unpopulated motherboard looks pretty convincing.
@Steel76 yes agreed if this is the actual design they’d need to actually call it switch 2 to avoid confusion.
@Steel76
I doubt that'll happen. People understand the difference between generations of smart phones; the physical unit can look nearly identical but it has a lot more power under the hood, might have a nicer screen, etc.
The naming of the system is key. Wii U didn't separate itself from all the other Wii branded accessories and software, and itself looked like a controller accessory to the original console as Nintendo actually failed to show the console itself in the initial reveal.
@teo_o that’s what I thought.
I'm not ruling this out as being real I made that mistake with the Lite and the Zelda Oled and had egg on my face
@datamonkey has basically the same configuration of the current model, baside the second usbc beside the 3.5 jack
I'm confused. Is that actually the original Switch model AND the new Switch 2 model on there for comparison or are there two models like with the current gen?
They've hardly spent a lot of time on external product design here. A bit underwhelmed by that but then, what should I expect if they're going for the same type of machine. There's no point in making a drastic change when the current form works really well. Disappointed they've stick with the four separate buttons for the d-Pad.
It's so underwhelming that I would expect this to be true.
It looks like the joycons will be as cramped and uncomfortable as the current ones. For me at least, I'm sure others have no problems
Don’t care if it’s made up, finally some fun leaks with pictures
To all the naysayers asking the optimists why Nintendo should announce it soon...
This. This is why.
@teo_o
Inclined to agree with the PCB, it looks like the back of the board with spaces to attach in components like the game card reader and UFS microSD card reader, plus a very big space for a battery.
It looks highly plausible.
As ever though, I won't accept it until Nintendo actually reveals it.
@BIG3 I hope so, the sooner the better!
@Maubari I think it would be much clearer than with wii u. Switch 2 is more power full tha switch 1. Just like a PS5 is more powerfull than a PS4. Problem with wii u was that many considered it an assessory for the original wii, which it wasn't.
If this is Switch 2 then I am renaming as Switch 1.5!
Totally implausible. Preposterous.
Oh wait, hang on...
This looks so boring and straight forward - it’s very likely the real design!
If the specs are confirmed, Switch 2 will be incredible!
It seems that it will be on the same level as the PS4 Pro before DLSS.
Someone mentioned before that someone in China would leak the console before Nintendo, well, that became true
I was hoping the controller grips would be more substantial this time around. Something like the Steam Deck's. Just so I don't develop pins & needles after 20 mins.
All nice and all but those Joy -Cons seem as bad as the current ones. To address those drifting #@$&@ is the only thing I care.
We know it's hybrid, that games will come and that the power will be below the competitors. So my only concern is that their hardware is not garbage as the joy cons have been. Already have 3 pairs of drifting left hand joy cons.... Trash.
Hope they surprise me and implement hal effect sticks
Looks pretty much the same. Was sort of looking for a little bit more of an overhaul( assuming this is accurate).
This is just a larger Switch OLED - and frankly, it looks kinda ugly.
They're holding onto same design with some improvements which is a good move i believe.
As Eustace would say: "Blah, blah, blah!". I want Ninty to REALLY surprise me with a REALLY good design. That's all.
Is that an Ultrawide screen? If so, the aspect ratio might change when connected to the TV. Anyway, I think is way too safe and shows Nintendo is not as courageous to innovate as they used to.
@Kiivi I agree! Worked for the later ds models which saw improvements etc but little change in design.
If this is to be an upgraded Switch, it’s better to be thinking of it as such rather than a whole new era of console.
This isn’t a leap from n64 to GameCube, it is very much a major upgrade.
It looks like a bigger OLED. Neat.
I know some leaks are suggesting only LCD models at launch but I hope there's an OLED version too even if I have to pay more for it.
All the "oh meh gerd but muh holiday sales" and "I dont need one now, there's still plenty of games left, I can wait till 2026" people are about to eat crow.
I am absolutely convinced of these leaks. It looks like the "additional button" on the shoulder is just an enlarged release for the joy-con to detach. It is strangely huge though. Maybe after some consumer testing they realized the button to release the original joy-con was too small for most consumers (I remember my first time detaching it was really tricky, I actually struggled with it quite a bit...and I'm a nerd).
This feels safe for Nintendo, but that's absolutely what they need to do. The era of hardware gimicks is over, and they need to just deliver some high quality traditional hardware/software.
The ONLY thing I'm confused about is the additional USB-C on top. What on earth could that be used for? Connecting to another Switch for high -bandwidth local multiplayer? Game sharing to a friend that doesn't have a copy of the game for a quick multiplayer session? Having an additional port is a strange extra cost...especially when the dock will likely have some too.
Give me the switch but with more power baby. Just imagine how glorious 1st party games are going to look with Nintendo hands on with the optimisation.
But.. will we finally get THEMES back??? 🧐
@kellercl question...(asking out of ignorance) if the Switch 2 has SLIGHTLY more RAM than the Series S (sounds like it might have an additional gig) can that additional memory be used to offset the limitation in bandwidth?
It looks like what I expected it to look like given the comments how the next console is going to be a "next Switch model" rather than something completely new and I'm fine with that but why is Nintendo still allergic to analog triggers?
@bleeflooflah Have you sir, by chance, ever played a Switch in bed?
In a weird way, that one USB-C port at the top is one of the hypest things for me. No more need to feel like I'm tearing the cable while resting the console on a surface upright.
@bleeflooflah
I imagine as a charging port in handheld, charging the current models while holding it in your lap often bends the cord/port.
@RupeeClock couldn't agree more, naming it Switch 2 is absolutely necessary in order not to fail like de Wii U.
It's been a rule in the industry for such a long time, now that they found a brand in the Switch that can be extended for a few generations, I hope they don't mess it up.
The specs and design look amazing! I really hope it is all true 😍
If accurate:
I do NOT like the look of the new ZL and ZR buttons!
It looks extremely uncomfortable!
@Spider-Kev Maybe they look uncomfortable because you confuse it with ZL and ZR buttons?
@Spider-Kev
You might be looking at the Joy-Con release buttons, the L/ZL and R/ZR buttons are still on the top.
@Varkster that's a great point! The charge port on top does make handheld play way more practical. And the stats are that 50% of players play handheld exclusively right? something like that? So that part is actually making a lot of sense now.
@kellercl There have been no ACTUAL specs released for the Switch 2, so you cannot say which RAM is faster or more efficient.
This is a Chinese knockoff console!!
1) The photos don't have any Nintendo branding.
2) The plastic material looks cheap.
3) The spec list is unrelated to the photos.
This reminds me of that elaborate Smash Bros fake leak a few years back.
@stuie1234
That is the original Switch, not a secondary screen.
It is a size comparison image.
I was hoping we'd get a DS style Switch!
I miss StreetPass Hits and Games.
I think in the last two weeks everyone is just making up ‘leaks’ to get a piece of the press pie. I’m just holding off until the trailer drops tomorrow hopefully
@Twilite9
Official Switch plastic IS cheap!
Even more wierd now if they dont announce it in september. Still betting on 26th sep.
@Twilite9 Keep in mind this is before the plastic is treated in a "finishing" process. Its very normal for high quality products to look cheap and rough during manufacturing.
looks realistically believable. even in these lower quality models i can see the "sleekness" its going for
Looks more like a Chinese emulation handheld than a Switch successor. No way Nintendo is going to make it look similar to the previous Switch without a gimmick or two added.
If this is real it's going to be a dissapointment. It looks a lot like the current Switch console. I've seen another report that the Switch 2 might come with dual screens. I seriously hope it isnt the final design, it will be a mistake like what happened to the Wii U. People will think its another Oled or same console.
Didn't Nintendo move manufacturing out of China and to Vietnam?
Looks even less of an evolution than the SNES was from the NES.
Skeptical of this, but if it's true, it's disappointing that Nintendo would not have solved the issue of adding a joycon D-pad.
@bleeflooflah It does make sense, but I never charged my Nintendo Switch while playing in handheld mode. The battery life is pretty good. So I don't think that is the only reason to add a second USB-C port.
Man if that's really what we're getting I'm very very very disappointed. I like the new jou con insert instead of slide. Buy we will lose that click sound which was Nintendo switches benchmark opening sound from day one. But it's pretty cool how they did that and the bigger eject button on the back that looks like another trigger is fine as well. But I was really hoping for something different in terms of shell. Also was crossing my fingers for the slide up second screen. Hey you can only dream. Well. . . If this is real let's just hope they made a wayyyyyy better start up system (themes, icons, apps, online store)
Either way I'm Nintendo all the way. So it's a day one purchase no matter what for me. I personally fell in love with the Wii U and it's probably my 3rd favorite console of all time. So hope they do the same as they did with that with the second screen if not a physical second screen. Who knows. Guess will officially find out before November more or less.
Each console generation for Nintendo has looked radically different. This doesn’t seem very them.
@bleeflooflah tbh i think the 2nd usb c port is so you can charge the switch while playing in tabletop mode. i remember doing that all the time with my wii u and being bugged when i couldnt do that with my switch haha
@DoubleDate no matter what they do to it. It WILL be a success. It's gonna play switch carts and be backwards compatible. So it's already a hit FOR SURE
The specs are nice, but I'm a bit worried it'll be in the $500-$600 range, if true, pricing many people myself included entirely out of the video games market...
@Drew250 What looked radically different about the 3DS?
@BIG3 I'm thinking 'Switch Up'.
I'll wait until they announce it rather than jumping to conclusions based off a mockup. Besides which, the most important thing will be the quality of software.
At this point I'm exhausted from the talk & speculation. Can Nintendo hurry up and reveal the console? I'd much rather receive it from an official source than a leak.
I'm highly skeptical of this. I'll believe it when I actually see and hear from Nintendo.
@Yosti Sorry I meant home consoles. I guess since this is a hybrid we’re into more handheld territory? In which case it’s hard to vary the design too far.
Still looks too similar in my eyes.
Yea, It's 99.9% real. Nintendo should have known it would leak once you start manufacturing
Of course I'm waiting for official confirmation before saying that this is 100% real, but it certainly looks like it could be and if it were then it would be really promising, looking forward to Nintendo's announcement even more now - again, I suspect it will happen sooner than later considering the Indie World and Partner Showcase combo etc. and now also to avoid further leaks like this one if true!
People clearly forgot how similar the DS and 3DS looked. My brother couldn't get my parents to buy him a 3DS because they were convinced it was just a different design of the DS.
It's a day 1 preorder for me if it has backwards compatibility, 3D Mario, Virtual Console of some sort, and an OLED screen. That's a lot but I think it's reasonable.
I kinda hope its not that. It looks really boring and uninspired, but as long as it supports physical media Ill be buying it.
This is exactly what I wanted! It turns out the OLED model really was a prototype for the next gen after all. This is still a Switch family of console, so just like DS -> 3DS, it needs to retain the same fundamental appearance.
Nintendo still has plenty of space to explore the fun factor that Iwata believed in; The Switch as a brand still has so much more value to extend that of course they would continue more of the same rather than jump to a wildly new approach to gaming. That was always unnecessary given the ever-popular nature of the Switch as a concept.
@stuie1234 You're forgetting it'll be a hybrid console and NOT a traditional home console, that's a HUGE difference cost-wise...
@CaptainCapture There were a lot of problems with the Wii U. The branding and messaging were both misfires but I think the problems started with the whole concept. People were over motion controls and the dual screen design ultimately didn't result in any compelling gameplay.
@stuie1234 I hope so, but I wouldn't count on it if the specs are accurate...
@Drew250 Hybrid is both console and handheld. But yes it still has to be comfortable to hold in handheld mode.
Why do you want to see a radically different design? Maybe the dock looks different this time.
@WiiWareWave What price do you expect then?
This is looking like the biggest individual jump in performance for any Nintendo console jumping almost two generations, plus with Nvidia’s DLSS this console has the potential to dominate the market… again!
This is fake. Remember Nintendo Revolution?
Wii looked nothing like the leaked pictures and the console had 2-3 times less power than expected.
All leaked Switch pictures were nothing like the console either.
@Yosti
Yep, there is only so much that can be changed in the visual design of a device that is 90% a screen. The fact that the unit is (allegedly) significantly larger than the original Switch is already a big change.
I’m confused by these comments. What did you people want/expect? The Switch has obviously been a huge success for Nintendo and people obviously love the platform, why not improve on that and make it not only greatly more powerful, but also improve on the actual hardware like what is being described.
All I wanted was more power and backwards compatibility, so I’m very excited. That screen looks like it will be really nice, too. I do wish the joycons got a little more of a redesign though in terms of ergonomics.
@Toastmaster We’re not in the same time as in 2006 or even 2017, nowadays every single piece of hardware leaks before being officially revealed, I’m not saying this is legit, but it very well might be.
The "prototype" looks AI as heck (like someone literally just stuffed Furukawa's comment into the prompt field), but surely that won't stop half the fandom from gobbling the "leak" up and spending the next few weeks complaining over the persistent lack of analog triggers, D-pad or other "hot topics" of this generation.
The rest who don't apply? Wake up, samurais, we'll soon have a Hyrule to copypaste.😎
@IOI Some of these pictures looks like someone used a 3D program for the first time. It's amateur models...
I hate the whole "...but man if this is the real thing it’ll be disappointing this got out first" comment. Like why add that... Why start sprinkling contagious negativity in? What value does that' add?
I'm excited... The price will be the determining factor for me though. I just very recently got my hands on a Switch Lite which has been stellar for handheld play. Finally feels like a portable (as opposed to my launch Switch which feels massive and not as comfortable.)
Anyway, not in a huge rush for a switch 2 but when it announces/launches I'll be very happy!
I know the dock would have to change but would like the power input on the top. So much better on the Steam Deck
As other commenter said, its looks too similar to the current console. They really have to make it look different enough in order to avoid another Wii U fiasco.
I would love if they named this one the "Super Switch"...
@Toastmaster There are also pictures of the actual system shell and motherboard.
Considering they have the factory shelf numbers this looks like the real deal or the greatest fake in history
12GB of RAM means it won't be cheap. Not $700 like the PS5 Pro but there's definitely going to be a price bump from the OLED $350
@bleeflooflah
Additional memory can help a bit to offset limited bandwidth, especially at higher resolutions. Basically the amount of ram is how much can be stored, while bandwidth is how fast you can move data on/off the ram. So if speed is low, then increase ram to hold more. Ideally, 16 gb would be great, but to be fair 1st party games likely don't need increased ram and Nintendo needs to be priced focused.
Oh dang! both joycon's have a camera button! day one baby!
@d2k
Sure I can. Mobile devices are limited by TDP. Most mobile devices are 88 gb/s, such as Deck and Legion. The T239 chipset, at full clock speed, maxes out at 112 gb/s. The switch 2 will absolutely be 112 gb/s or less. Mobile hardware can't run faster because of TDP.
It is a huge jump over the current switch's 25 gb/s, but is still behind home hardware.
There is no chance the switch 2 running anywhere near the series s' 224 gb/s.
They look pretty realistic/plausible… but at the same time there’s nothing shown here that couldn’t be easily faked. I don’t know. Regardless the suspense is killing me! I just wrote yesterday that I didn’t expect to hear anything until after Christmas but I’d really like to be wrong!
Fakest thing I've seen today but it's still early
Switch Pro 14.0. We have been doing this song and dance for years.
I was hoping for some better joycons but maybe they’ll feel and work better than I’m guessing they would. I’m still hoping they’ll do an attachment for a Wii style controller and light bar for Tv play. I love buying my accessories. Lol.
Probably fake. I don't trust this kind of rumours.
Considering I got a 300€ phone with 12GB ram and 512GB storage, I'm hoping for a version with more storage.
I'd say 400€ with a 1080p screen, limited 4K capacities on TV, a new Mario as launch title and a new 3D Zelda 3-4 years after the switch 2 release.
wait till we get actual info from nintendo instead of believing in dumb rumors.
The latest is those renders might have been mocked up by an enthusiast, but the factory list and photos of hardware are likely real.
Pro: the face buttons looking larger, even extending to the outer edge. I hope this makes it feel less "cramped" as I've heard good things about the Steam Deck's funny-looking button placement.
Con: Why on earth do they refuse to make the joycon ergonomic. Do they have to be flat on the back?? Would a 2nd hump at the bottom of the joycon be so bad? It would also make it feel more symmetrical held sideways!
I'm fine with a pretty modest revision so long as the software gets an upgrade. For as much as I love the Switch, it lacks a bit of that Nintendo charm in terms of UI. Basically... bring back Streetpass and Miiverse you cowards!
@BigRed40 I'd say Virtual Console as well, but they're more or less doing that on the eShop, there's a whole mess of 8/16-bit versions of games dotted around various compilations (particularly Konami ones)
Fake until proven real.
The timing of this leak lines up well. The reveal should be slated for early to mid October. Backwards compatibility will be present as to not hamper Christmas sales for a discounted switch. Release in Q2 of next year. We SHOULD be seeing prototype leaks around now. Looks great!
"To reiterate, this may all be completely bogus. However, this is likely the most pausible (sic) glimpse at Nintendo's upcoming hardware so far."
what makes this more plausible than any other rumor we have seen?
and if you are thinking "because its more like the console that came before it" I'd like you to meet the company behind the Switch. They are called "Nintendo."
I know Nintendo don't tend to use anti-aliasing...but when the actual console has jaggies you know something ain't right. Fake init.
There is zero chance this is real. When have Ninty released a console similar in form to its predecessor? Upgrades like GB pocket/colour don’t count. Tip: the answer is never.
@Burning_Spear They need it to be buttons because the joycons can be split apart and given to two players, and they have to keep the experience between the players congruent.
It’s easy enough to get a third party Joycon with D-pad
@GrailUK That’s the 3d model image, not the physical system
@strongest_link
For real. The only game that really proved the concept was Mario Maker, and that came out towards the later part of the Wii U’s lifespan.
@OrtadragoonX I agree that Nintendo did a poor job of highlighting the Wii U Gamepad's second-screen functionality, but I'll submit that Mario Maker wasn't the only game that did it well. I still miss it in the current versions of Splatoon, and Nintendo used it to great effect in Nintendoland.
There’s no definitive answer on the validity of this rumor but…
My heart wants this to be true. This is exactly what I wanted, a better, more powerful switch. No need to rock the very profitable boat.
Lot of people saying "grain of salt" but this looks legit to me. If it's a fake, it's a good fake. Not out there enough to be instantly called fake and subtlely different enough to be plausible. Disappointing it's come out like this if it is real, but at least we can avoid the outrage of "IS THAT IT?" when it gets revealed and it's not a completely revolutionary concept. If it's not broke, don't fix it. Still wish it would have added a second screen tbh...
NES-SNES
N64-GC
Both were just better versions of the same thing.
@Maubari
Design shouldn't be an issue and Nintendo has created similar successors with similar designs. Just look at the Gameboy to Gameboy Color, DS to 3DS.
As long as they are clear with their message that this is a Switch 2 and provide good marketing it should be fine. But I get the concern since the Wii U era was such a flop.
@JH64
GB<GBA
DS<3DS
I can see them doing a straight-up iteration of the previous console, and personally I would be down for that.
@Yosti I don’t necessarily want a radically different design. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. I’m just saying that in my mind, based on my experience of what I expect a new generation of Nintendo gaming to look like, the fact that this looks so similar to the current switch makes me doubt the veracity of this ‘leak’.
I love Nintendo for their innovation and novel consoles. I’d be sad if we’re mostly getting a specs upgrade, a Switch Pro. So I’m hoping they’ve got something wacky up their sleeves!
I’ll wait until Nintendo’s official announcement. After all, back when the Switch was still known as the NX, someone made a mockup of what we believed to be the design at the time (an elliptical-shaped console where the whole front was the screen and joysticks built into it) and passed it off as a leak. The actual product looked radically different from the supposed mockup.
@Antraxx777 Ah, fine then. Well, it looks like a Switch...I just don't get why these pictures would exist. (Especially when the perspective on one or two of them bends my eyes!)
They need to reveal very soon before the whole thing just leaks and also possibly some games as well.
Just like the new PS5 Pro model and specs all leaked and none of it was a surprise.
Apart from the shocking price.
@Maubari There was a lot of reasons behind why the Wii U was specifically a bad name choice that led to that. Just adding something simple like a number or something that easily conveys 'better' (PS4 PRO, NEW 3DS, SUPER NES) is enough for most people.
@RygelXVIII Not every system has to reinvent the wheel or include some whacky gimmick that will be forgotten about after 2 years.
There can be New software based features that extend gaming experiences. I would be happy with a Switch that could actually play games without looking blurry or struggling to maintain 30fps.
...Well, this doesn't seem entirely baseless. We don't know for certain until Nintendo finally lifts the lid however.
As long as it's Backwards Compatible with Switch 1 games, there's no Joycon Drift, they boost the performance of older titles on it (give me 4 player Local Kirby's Dream Buffet you cowards! Even if it's only when docked!), and the specs are a straight up improvement, I'll buy.
Just read all the specs now.
We might as well forget the console reveal and get to the far more interesting bit now.
The day one release games.
@Bizzyb Yeah. there is only so many designs you can do with a tablet anyway, unless you are Lenovo.
This seems exceedingly unlikely, I think. Granted, physical design is not everything, but I imagine Nintendo would have learned something from the WiiU debacle that having a successor device look so similar to the predecessor might be confusing - even with great marketing. Also I’m skeptical we’ll get a reveal until early 2025.
If this is true, it makes me worried. Some people skipped the ps5 hoping the new switch would offer a next gen experience but 12gb ram might be rough considering steam deck already has 16GB ram. Nintendo will also need to handle PS6 games in some degraded form but 12GB ram sounds insufficient. Hopefully Nintendo will be aware of what specs next gen systems will have, including ps5 pro, to make games that run very smoothly and most importantly- make games that fully fit on a cartridge!!!! That’s the most irritating thing on Current Switch!!!!!!!!! If I buy a game physically, it needs to be complete!
@Maubari What can you do to shake up the Switch design though realistically? The main unit is always going to look like a tablet and the joycons can’t be much bigger than they are for portability’s sake. They can make it stand out from the standard Switch with a unique colour scheme (like the white joy cons being exclusively associated with the OLED).
At any rate if this is the design then I’m more than happy- the Switch form factor is perfect for me and all I want is a more powerful version of it. If it’s called Switch 2 and has a solid line up announced out of the gate then I can’t see it why a Wii U situation would happen again.
@Cow_Bug The Wii U had way more problems going against it than just looking like its predecessor.
Most likely legit. I’m certain the folks at DF have had it in hand recently, their way to put that tweet out just reinforces that this is, indeed, The Switch 2.
@larryisaman Yeah, fair dos. I just want Nintendo to do good, you know? It's the only company out of the big three I still have respect for.
We aren't meant to have more than 6g of salt a day!
Remember to hydrate folks!
In seriousness, I don't know much about specs and stats, but if it IS just Switch but bigger and better....I am all aboard for that!
@msvt I would love a proper D-pad too, but I don't see how it's possible. It doesn't really work with the multiplayer-focused detachable joy-con design.
Call it Switch Color and we can add the sales to the Switches total.
This is clearly fake. You have the whole console with you, why not showcase everything. Also, that Zbrush render looks terrible.
I just wonder if it can be at least as powerful as the Xbox Series S so it can run current-gen games, DLSS or not.
I mean, look at what the iPhone 15 is doing!
Hopefully this is on the money. All I want is a refined Switch with backwards compatibility and a significant power boost.
Not sure why people think this can’t be accurate because it looks so similar to the original. Nintendo have been stealing plenty from the Apple template for years and they’ve been releasing very similar looking hardware for years.
@WheresWaveRace
Wii U and 3DS
Are those analogue triggers I see? If they are, colour me more hyped than ever. Also finally means proper GameCube support is possible! (If these are real that is, but it all looks pretty legit to me.)
@NintendoByNature Yeah, same. I hope this is a fake, and the real Switch "2" or Switch "Pro" will have a more improved and sleeker design. I'm sure they can come up with more enhancements than.. the above in the post.
@Doctor-Moo
Could be a replacement Joy Con option. The third party one I have (the zelda one, Hori I think) is not even wireless.
In Fact, imagine joy con options going even further, like a Gamecube layout to slide into place.
Not their priority I am sure, but I would love this kind of thoughtful approach. And D-Pad is literally Nintendo, so I still hope for it. Switch Lite had a nice one on it
@Maubari I get you, but I think they’d really have to drop the ball to fail with their next machine. If anything making it look like the old Switch and saying “it’s just like the one you have but way better!” is the smartest thing they could do when they already have the handheld market cornered.
Eurogamer has confirmed the images are fake.
[Insert "They're the same picture" meme here]
I was reading yesterday the rumours of a dual screen design. That's what I'm hoping for. Clam style design like DS/3DS would be amazing.
I just want it to be 1080p @ 60 fps when docked, not expecting a portable PS4 Pro.
Also it would be nice to have full backwards compatibility with all "Switch 1" games.
All I know is that it better be called the Switcheroo.
@electrolite77 yes I sort of agree with you on form factor on the 3DS. Obviously they look very similar. But the new thing / gimmick was ofc the screen. With the WiiU yes the console looked similar but it was all about the screen in the WiiU GamePad. Totally different form factor. New style of play etc.
That’s literally a Switch 💀
I really hope this is fake. Looks exactly the same…
Really hoping for controllers that I can hold without buying a grip, an actual d-pad, and back buttons. We need improvements, people!
It seems according to this Reddit post that this is all a fake.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSwitch/s/SUbGnkM5XJ
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@DripDropCop146 Best comment I've read on the Internet today! Well done.
@Scrubelicious @dazzleshell I read the Eurogamer article. It says the Chinese 3D render is speculated, but it's based on the PCB photograph which is most likely a genuine prototype.
The issue is, the PCB photograph is likely outdated because it originates from 2023. Therefore, the 3D render is likely an outdated shape that may not reflect the final appearance of the launch model.
someone is taking advantage of all the hype surrounding Switch sucessor, and decided to fool everyone by creating this obviously fake photos, with AI and a 3D printer, you can create anything to mislead and fool us all.
The better question: Why not fake a mainboard?
these rumors it adds to what many nintendo youtubers have reported in previous leaks..
nintendo is copying the success of the switch with a more powerful system if it's not broke why fix it...
@Ulysses https://www.nintenderos.com/2024/09/la-supuesta-filtracion-de-nintendo-switch-2-seria-totalmente-falsa/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1nG47AK1UggeIsow1pb47tZMGyEmx4DGZUzXDb2rGMMIAL8vF4BXa4dz8_aem_bMvifpoEghvHIWSCFALSpw
Totally fake.
i been watching the best nintendo youtubers for months showing leaks and speculating on switch 2 ... these specs are exactly what they have been saying for awhile now..
@johnedwin https://www.nintenderos.com/2024/09/la-supuesta-filtracion-de-nintendo-switch-2-seria-totalmente-falsa/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1nG47AK1UggeIsow1pb47tZMGyEmx4DGZUzXDb2rGMMIAL8vF4BXa4dz8_aem_bMvifpoEghvHIWSCFALSpw
Fake as JLo's hair, dude.
@Edu23XWiiU The 3D renders are indeed fanmade, but the dimensions he used to make the render were from a real prototype, albeit an outdated revision, numbered X6 in the revision process. The Switch 2 is currently up to X8 in its revision process, so a few more changes may have been made. Therefore the pictures we see in this article only reflect an outdated prototype, and the final product will probably look different. However that does not mean it is fake.
I was hoping for better ergonomics and an actual d-pad, apart from that I would be ok with the specs and this design.
@Znake Yea but it also has more RAM than a Series S and is using more modern hardware, including DLSS.
You have to take all of the hardware into account and how it uses/optimizes all of it. That's why you can get something like DOOM Eternal or The Witcher 3 running on Switch. Steam Deck having more RAM means nothing by itself.
I hope it comes with Hall effect joysticks. I had drift in all my 4 joy cons and I had to repar them myself. dont get me wrong, I enjoy reparing stuff, but still.... would be nice to have good quality sticks from day 1
I want the switch2 to be exactly like the OLED but with much faster specs and nice sticks.
If these are legit I'm a bit disappointed by the lack of any apparent innovation.
@Ulysses it is fake, because it's made up from supposed past "leaks". All of this for nothing hahahaha.
100000 KG OF SALT ! 99,9% its fake . May be some of first projects , but next console will NOT have joycons ( Switch Lite form factor )
@Edu23XWiiU Publicly available shipping data is not a fake leak. You can believe what you want, but being blindly doubtful for its own sake is equally counterproductive.
@Scrubelicious The reddit post says that Tom Warren said it's fake, but he didn't say it's fake.
@Cow_Bug The Wii U didn't look similar to the Wii at all.
Rumor has it that it will cost $400.oo
Looks like a giant PS Vita Slim.
I thought it was supposed to have dual screens as of just a week ago?
@WheresWaveRace
The Switch sequel is always going to look similar to the original because there’s only so much you can do on a device so dominated by the screen, like modern phones and tablets
@electrolite77 if it is indeed a sequel to the switch. It could be something completely left field. I really hope it’s not just a souped up switch sequel. I want to be surprised and wowed.
If this is legit my concerns would be the lack of a proper d-pad, it seems too skinny(I’d be afraid it’d overheat easily, and that’d it’d be easy to drop), and hopefully this thing will have a docked option (I’m rarely ever a handheld player). I love my switch but I sure hope we’re not confined to using only joy cons as that was the switches Achilles heel.
@Maubari No, I don't think we will be doing that. Nintendo have never had a handheld that flopped. 3DS looked like a DS too.
@Savage_Joe If 16GB of RAM is $100 then the Switch 2 will never ever be under $400.
Even if Nintendo can get 12GB for $50 it's still a lot more compared to 4GB which is basically free nowadays. This alone is probably a $50 increase in price. Not to mention the new SoC still made by Ngreedia and larger display. The Switch 2 won't be cheap.
A Qualcomm Snapdragon 8gen3 is already about $200 per chip for the manufacturer. No doubt Nintendo and Nvidia have a partnership but I highly doubt Nintendo can buy their SoC for less than $100 per console. Joycons, dock and Nintendo's margin still need to be factored in.
I think $400 is the minimum realistic price, with $450 and $500 being more inline of what I expect.
Just look at the price of smartphones with 12GB of RAM and a high end SoC, they're not $300.
@WheresWaveRace When asked about the nature of the new system during an earnings call in May, Furukawa stated that "Switch next model is the appropriate way to describe it". Make of that what you will but it certainly sounds like an advanced iteration rather than something completely new to me.
@Jalex_64 thanks that’s good info. I’m hoping for a DS to 3DS style transition where the form factor is fairly similar (but not essential), it’s obviously more powerful and has that wow factor. I’m not suggesting they put in a stereoscopic screen but that was the wow factor of the 3DS. What is going to be the wow factor this time? Rumoured Second screen? although I’d love to see it, it’s not going to bring the same wow.
I'm tired of all these Switch 2 leaks and just want it to end at this point.
The announcement is imminent. We just moved the Nintendo section on every Game store (at least in Spain) just at the entrance.
@bleeflooflah only thing I can think of is is that some kind of camera would slot into the top
@Oppyz666 seriously? What was the reasoning given to y'all for moving it?
@TYRANACLES on the thickness, I disagree I think the thinner it is the better cooling it would have. The only thing is dust could get caught in there easier? So maybe you are right.
@Axelay71 I think that would be a mistake, because I would be afraid that Miyamoto San would try to push dual screen gaming on the TV. I think that would be a bad mistake.
@WheresWaveRace
I’m the opposite. I’ve had enough of them doing ‘left field’ with the Virtual Boy, cartridges in the N64, Wii U etc. A flop now could have them in big trouble and I love the Switch anyway, just give us a better version of it with BC.
@Danrenfroe2016 yes & no, I just feel that an upgrade to switch would be rather boring. Basically a bigger screen with bigger specs. I have Steam Deck, so basically switch 2 will be basically the same. I personally miss Nintendos innovations with something different to everything else. But I get what your saying.
@Danrenfroe2016 marketing purposes. I mean, if you push Nintendo section to the front of the store without any new hardware on the horizon, it means that the new hardware is going to be anounced. I don't think they are trying to boost Switch sales. They want to show more Nintendo from the outside for a reason.
@Ulysses data that who put in, how do you know it's real? You must be one of those people that believe the Earth is flat. Believing dumb rumors for years is the definition of being counterproductive. And this particular rumor, as fake as politician triyng to win an election.
@Axelay71 I don't do any PC gaming. So no steam deck here. I hope the reveal is soon!
@Doctor-Moo well, you can install your own dpad caps if you really want. Skull & Co has some good solutions.
@Bizzyb I actually didn't know that! I'll check them out.
Can’t wait to pre-order birthday present. New console excitement still feels fresh at 40
@MitchaK thanks! That's the kind of info I clicked on the article for.
Hooray! Nostalgia. Now where's my deftones hoodie got to.
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