Last year's release of Super Mario 3D All-Stars, a bundle including modern re-releases of classic Mario titles to celebrate the franchise's 35th anniversary, has left plenty of us wondering whether Zelda's 35th anniversary – which just so happens to be this year – will receive similar treatment.
A package containing remasters of games like Ocarina of Time, Skyward Sword, or maybe new versions of Twilight Princess HD and Wind Waker HD from the Wii U would no doubt go down a treat, and thanks to the video below shared by YouTube user Brian Tate, we can see just how the former could look if it were released today.
In fact, playable in 4K and at 60fps, the mod you're seeing in action is technically even better in the visuals department than the 1080p output achievable on Switch, even with YouTube's heavy compression doing a number on the overall quality. Check it out:
With so many rumours of a beefed-up "Switch Pro" doing the rounds, super-spicy 4K Nintendo visuals perhaps aren't the distant dream they once were – even if such a console isn't on the way any time soon.
One day, Zelda fans. One day...
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Ocarina of time, still the most beautiful zelda game ever created. I loved the Ocarina part, just relax and smash those buttons to make music lol.
And the powers of the gods, Dins Fire attack, nayrus love and farores wind. Man every part in this game was and still is magical. I miss those parts actually. Gauntlets to lift those big rocks.
Horses for courses but I prefer how it looks on the N64 and find the early 3D graphics as they are have a certain charm to them in their simplicity (ditto PS1 and Saturn games) It sort of leaves more to the imagination than many modern games.
When people do this I always find the smooth framerate and high resolution jarring with the basic visuals... a full remake, sure, that would look amazing.
I feel like this article gets posted every 2 weeks or so.
Will the Switch Pro come with Ocarina of Time?! Kidding.
Issue is even when Nintendo does release the classic 3D Zeldas you can bet you bottom dollar they will remain 30fps.
Pity, as 60fps does make everything better.
I'm going to be a powergrump here and say that what's stunning to me is managing to commit this many crimes against art direction in just one HD-mod.
@Rob3008 Well, closer to 3 weeks but yeah. =P
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2021/01/video_heres_what_the_legend_of_zelda_ocarina_of_time_3d_could_potentially_look_like_on_switch
To be fair, the last article was an up-res-ed trailer, this is supposedly playable.
don't have a 4K display at all, so I cannot enjoy the 4K part of it, but 60FPs, eh whatever
@Clyde_Radcliffe
It looks nicer and I like the framerate but yeah; I think I agree. Taking old games and just uprezzing/upping the fps isn't what I'd want.
I'd also say a full remake would be much better.
Nintendo needs to get their head out their butt and realize the Switch is not a system at the middle of its life cycle - it’s at the end. The upgrade needs to be here this year. Portability isn’t going to stop people from moving on to the PS5 and Xbox.
This looks great and should be the minimum of what we should expect from Nintendo.
I mean it certainly looks very nice but the experiences I have had on the N64 and 3DS are outstanding anyway. Does this give me a better experience of the gameplay and the game itself? I doubt it, though I would certainly play it again presented like this.
Oh thank goodness it's not SnazzyAI this time.
The game running 60FPS by itself looks great though! I'm loving that this sort of performance enhancement for locked-framerate games is becoming more prevalent in emulation.
Now that I have watched the video (not in 4k, but 1440p on phone), it looks fairly nice, and I like 60fps but it is like fast-forwarding at 2x speed; Navi looks way too fast.
Knowing Nintendo if they would actually port OoT to the Switch it would be the N64 version and would run in 720p20fps and 4:3 ratio
I like it. I would pay full $60 or $70 for this
@FatHedgehog In what realm is the Switch at the end of its lifespan? It's been out for less than 4 years, and is still selling wildly well. Nintendo has proven time and time again that they do not need to pursue power to sell their consoles. People buy Nintendo consoles because they are unique. They have an experience that you can only get from a Nintendo console. People won't just give up the Switch in exchange for the PS5 just because the former is underpowered. While I do agree that Nintendo should eventually do a mid-life upgrade, now's not the time to do it.
@FatHedgehog "Nintendo needs to get their head out their butt and realize the Switch is not a system at the middle of its life cycle - it’s at the end"
LOL, it's really not... did you not see how well Switch sold last year? I hardly think that many people would be buying a console "at the end of it's life cycle" !
@Beatrice That's crazy dude. It literally is in 4k and has up rezzed texture packs. It literally is a completely different look to the game. Plus the frame rate. It's super smooth.
Why people keep doing this to themselves.
@Qwertyninty What do you mean?
@Rob3008 this and “some old game...WITH RAY TRACING”
I can't tell the difference at all. Be better having a comparison instead.
@ObeseChihuahua2 he means, why do people keep making old popular 3ds games to 4k and keep wishing for it on switch pro.
@Mr_Persona I don't know. Maybe people just like to be disappointed when Nintendo doesn't meet their unrealistic expectations. /s
Surely this one has to be next in line for a Nintendo remake. The 21/11/1998 was such a long time ago, however my memories of christmas gaming that year were awesome with this new addition in my collection.
The longer I look the more and more frustrating it is to realize that Nintendo will never ever treat their most valuable franchises with the the same love as modders do.
@Pod This is literally the same art direction as the 3DS remake. Bumping the resolution and frame rates up don't change an art direction, and the textures pack used is upscaled textures staying as true to the originals as possible.
You probably just don't like the 3DS art direction compared to N64 to begin with, which is fair.
Isn't it ironic a fan guy is able to get more done then Nintendo themselves which is all just rumor/click bait disguised as news crap. Nothing but fakeeeeeeeee news. (Nothing but blueeeee skies)
I'm not sure why, but to it looks exactly like the n64 version I played for hours as a kid when the game launched. So many fond memories... And before launch, dreaming of the game in motion when looking at grainy pictures in magazines, reading all news and reviews, then holding the box in my hands for the first time... It was called "the game of the century". And it still is... One of the very few games that didn't lose it's magic even with the original graphics
@Merry_Blind Shhhhhhhhhhh! Your spoiling the show. Think about the children! 😁🤣🤣🤣
@FatHedgehog Our standards have gone way down but not just for Nintendo...............welcome to cancel culture. Which is a fancy way of 1937 'Nazism' wrong think and your out.
@The-Chosen-one Instead of a simple remake how about add the missing stuff like the Wind Temple?
It's a 240p game with 240p or less assets upscaled to 4k. This is interesting, how?
@ObeseChihuahua2 We're 4 years in. That's usually when mid-life upgrades happen, (PS4 Pro, X1X, New 3DS, DSi, etc.) I'd say we all could have set our watches 4 years ago that an upgrade would happen this year. If it doesn't it's because of the pandemic interfering with plans rather than it not being the right year.
If anyone's looking for a comparison between Original vs HD with the same Textures Pack by Henriko Magnifico as showcased above: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB36JWnBvak&t=0s
@Rob3008 I actually thought it was an update on the existing story. Last time I click on one of these.
Imo the 3DS version of this and MM need an upscaled re-release for the switch. The originals look ugly af (under today's standards) and I don't really want to play them on a small screen
@Olddantrucker
I would totally go for that.
This just looks like the 3DS version, which just looks like the original N64 version with improved textures. I'm not too impressed.
At least in this time they ACTUALLY updated the textures so it doesn't look exactly the same.
Still everything is flat. Can see the promise, but a remaster would be the answer to that.
@FatHedgehog Yeah no, Switch still has many years to go before it's at the end of it's life cycle. It literally became a hit in 2020 because of the pandemic. My gf had a very hard time finding one to purchase in march because they were sold out everywhere.
This Pro console seems to be rumoured or not to suite the writers articles.
One minute the Switch is doing fine as it is, making lots of lovely dollars for Nintendo. The next minute would Zelda look good in 4k.
Wouldn't any big game look good in 4K. Especially the third party ones that have to be butchered to fit the Switch.
But is the problem that a 4k 60 FPS Zelda, would not play to well on a Switch Lite. That would mean two versions of the games on two cards would have to be made?
@FatHedgehog Do you realize that the Switch sold over 25 million units last year. It's far FAR from the end of it's life, the last holiday season for the Switch was the third biggest holiday season ever in history for any system ww. Only the DS shipped more units in two holiday season and only a bit more. This January was probably the biggest January in Japan for any vonsole ever. The Switch is tracking ahead of the DS' best year in Japan right now. In the US the Switch outsold the PS5 in November in it's launch month wven though the US got the majority of the PS5 stock.
Only because you feel like the Switch's graphics are outdated it doesn't mean everyone feels like that and people won't stop buying Switches any time soon.
@thejuice027 it that because you are new to the Switch? A lot has happened in the 4 years I had my Switch.
This reminds me I really dislike the "updated" walking and running motion for Link from the OoT 3D remaster on the 3DS. I liked the original much much more, but that is just me
@ObeseChihuahua2 you should be saying that to the other guy
I want this in the Switch, and not the original.
I prefer the fuzzy original.
A switch pro won’t even do 1440p 60, so 4K 60 is much too optimistic. Let’s see if their next system can even hold 1080p 60.
@Mr_Persona it’s a Nintendo 64 game...
@Merry_Blind
You're right, I don't.
And this version mostly makes everything worse, as I see it.
But then, people don't have to feel as I do. ^^
@ms7000 nothing supposedly about it. I’m playing it now.
Damn that Ocarina of Time HD looks so crisp and clean, I love it!
@NEStalgia Yes, midlife upgrades usually happen around the 4 year mark. However, the Switch is selling phenomenally. Nintendo does not need an upgrade yet.
RIP the game's art direction. This look's horrendous.
@BigDebbie Is that you in your profile photo? Yes I totally agree with you - the original had a certain mood, a darker more atmospheric feeling than the 3DS version and all these mods. Exactly as @sigourneybeaver said, the original’s atmosphere will be hard to replicate anywhere except on an original console on a CRT.
@ObeseChihuahua2 I don't think that factor holds true. DS, PS4 were selling phenomenally and they still got mid-life upgrades. if they wait until year 5, year 6 to do it, there's really no point in doing it at all. Financially that may work, but it depends on who the customers buying Switches in droves are and if it's compelling software sales beyond the "I'm buying ACNH" grou p.
@NEStalgia It would still cut into the original model's sales. Nintendo just has no reason to release a "Switch Pro" right now.
No doubt in my mind that ocarina will be on the switch this year. the question is whether they will give it an hd overhaul, or will they release a straight port. mario 3d collection was a blockbuster, so the straight port would be a good guess
Man this was a friggin belter of a game. It still remains my favorite game ever and is most certainly worthy of a full remake from the ground up. How N cant be arsed to remake a game that is rated as the consoles best game ever in many, many different polls and helped sell consoles is beyond me. Oh wait, just have another Mario game instead 😴😴😴😴
@ObeseChihuahua2 Again, if there isn't a reason to release switch pro now, then there simply isn't going to be a switch pro, period.
BUT the metric that matters is software sales and attach. They're selling a lot of hardware right now, but if they're selling to a population that doesn't purchase a lot of software, they would still benefit from exciting the more frequent buyers.
Switch pro wouldn't have to replace basic switch, of course, it could be a new premium sku the same way 3DS XL and later New 3DS was. Or the same way X1X and PS4 Pro were, were it's an additional product to capture an additional market segment, while the mainstream still buys the other two models. It all depends how deep the market for a premium model or upgrade market appears to be do them.
I can say based on the software that's released so far, 4 years in, if there's no pro model, and software releases don't shape up, Switch is going to become the most disappointing console I've ever owned short of Vita and Wii. And the first 2 years it was poised to become my favorite. I think a new hardware would reinvigorate the platform for me and others, if coupled with better software releases, but their pacing has been bad for "core" customers, in a way that it feels like Switch went on hiatus 2 years ago and hasn't really been back. If it just kind of fizzles like this it's not so memorable. It's Wii all over again. A huge mass market of casual players started buying in and they started ignoring the core market to just cash grab from them. While I do realize their focus is that huge market overall, there's no reason they can't appeal to increased sales from the core group while still raking it in from the masses at the same time. But Nintendo has a habit of leaving money on the table.
Cool so we can see more details in the polygon models and muddy textures. 😬
A Remaster would be welcomed. 😉
@NEStalgia I disagree. There probably is going to be a Switch Pro, but not right now. Just because Nintendo won't release it now doesn't mean they won't release a hardware revision ever, which is pretty much what you said.
@zool No I'm not new to the switch family. My gf is.
Too afraid to say the E word or else the mysterious forces of the big N might come for you.
@ObeseChihuahua2 so your idea is they release an updated sku a year before replacing the whole console for a generation upgrade?
And no, i don't believe they're going to go 9, 10, or 11 years without a new platform. Even if they want to, third parties will revolt.
Well, it's just the 3DS version upscaled to look better on a bigger screen. What else is new?
However, I will be somewhat disappointed if we were to get the N64 version for the anniversary, assuming it is confirmed based on the recent trademark renewals. Just the existence of the 3DS remaster would make it hurt more to get the N64 version.
I hate to say but Ocarina of Time will probably look like Mario 64 if it comes to Switch.
@NEStalgia What? No! That wasn't what I was saying at all. I'm just saying that Nintendo won't release a "Switch Pro" at this point in time. I'm not saying that they never will release one.
@Kidfunkadelic83 Love to hear it’s your favourite game ever. It reaffirms the fact that it’s actually mine as well, but I’d lost track of that.
@Linux7055 There’s a specific reason that N didn’t go beyond 720p with Mario 64 that many people don’t realise. It’s because at 1080p and above the edges of the polygons get too sharp and the game looks off.
At this stage, nintendo know they could just slap together a zelda collection with absolutely no enhancements ala mario all stars and still sell a bucket load
Im glad ive kept my wiiu with tp hd, ww hd, syward sword wii, ocarina 64 (minnish cap as well via gba download)
Although i really enjoy the switch, my wiiu is still better for nintendos classics
@TruthisRare also have my Zelda themed wiiU for exactly the same reason. All those classic N64 games (which there still should be more of)
@Linux7055 i agree. I cant see a remake being done for 35yr anniversary. Will just be an upscale of the standard versions imo.
I’d love a new adventure in this style. I’ve never understood why it was abandoned. I mean instead of those 3ds remasters they could have done a completely new game
@BigDebbie @Pod I don't understand your comments. This is 100% the art style of the official 3D remake. Of course, I agree that this art style is way inferior than the one of the original. However, it is still official, approved by the highest people at Nintendo and shipped as a system seller.
With this in mind, nothing bad can be said about the mod above. It looks in every regard better than the 3D-original when you play it on a larger screen but does not change anything of the overall concept.
@NEStalgia,
Both Switch hardware and software are selling very well at the moment so I do not really see an issue for Nintendo here. The Switch pro has always been a more core dream than anything else, and any new Switch model is going to be a more modest revision than the pro powerhouse some are predicting.
You suggest the console has the potential to be your worst which is a shame as I know you love the brand, I have found it to be the best, but again it's a personal opinion and based on the releases thus far, the global pandemic messed up last year a little, but I am sure things will be slowly getting back to normal this year.
You do seem to be very negative towards a wider Switch demographic, not sure how else you feel Nintendo would compete though, as going toe to toe with Sony and Microsoft in the core market would be a bad move. To me this is Nintendo's best option and the software and hardware sales are backing that up.
Nintendo life users when seeing 4k 60fps mods - "meh the lower resolutions and lower fps version is better"
Nintendo life users when seeing official Nintendo-made mario 3d all stars at 720-1080p - "omg this is amazing looks loads better then the original"
😂
@Chandlero No, the decision making that went into the art direction of the original game was never based around what this looks like. The presentation of how the game would be displayed would have been taken into HEAVY consideration for every step along the way. These assets and models were not created to be viewed at 4K, to say otherwise is to fundamentally misunderstand both art direction and Nintendo's basic philosophy. This is not "officially approved" by Nintendo.
Shows just how gorgeous these games could be if Nintendo did something similar....
Although, I think I still prefer it just running in 4K without the textures changed by a fan modder:
Also, just to be clear, these games can be played not just in 4K, but in stereoscopic 3D on a giant virtual cinema screen too, at least when run through an emulator like Dolphin in an App like Bigscreen running on a VR headset like the Oculus Rift (sounds convoluted, and it kinda is, but it's worth it).
And it's stunning!
It's fine if people are into it, but I can't see wanting to play 64 games on anything except a CRT under 27", or on the 3DS.
You could render the game at 16k but it's still the same poly models ;/ Games like this and MGS lose a lot of their visual impact upscaled and played on large screens .
But if it makes you happy then great !
@Chandlero
It's not the same to start out with, when you display a game with assets meant for a 400x240 resolution in 4K.
Then comes up-ressing SOME textures but not all, and improving SOME geometry, but not all.
It's a mish-mash and it's unfit for the resolution it's running at, which now mostly serves to display the disparity between the different elements. It's bloomy, blurry, high-contrast textures repeated all over, up against chunky, vertex shaded characters. And now it looks weirder than ever.
@Beatrice Your wish is my command:
And, to be clear, this is just running in 4K; it doesn't even have the 4K texture pack here (although I think I prefer the original textures just running with a bit of extra smoothing and aliasing anyway).
@Beatrice For a fun comparison, here's footage https://youtu.be/3QvlxoX1GjI?t=1775 from the N64 version we grew up with. Here's from the 3D remake https://youtu.be/lzlzPhLp_7Y?t=13 (from a 3DS). (Especially notice the frame rate and resolution difference). Here's the uncompressed 4k video of the mod for comparison (the Youtube video doesn't show the detail that well) https://bit.ly/3d09F6R
@Pod @BigDebbie Thanks for your explanations. Now, I get your point and see it as an actual valid complaint.
Of course, I still don't agree because playing 3DS games (in original resolution) on a big screen has been a common thing for years now and such a mod makes this experience much nicer.
However, I might be biased because I don't like the original 3DS art style and think that it is not fitting at all for Ocarina of Time.
@impurekind The video description actually mentions playing in VR!
@IceAndRock Well there ya go.
@Olddantrucker nazism?
Wtf kind of drugs are you on?!
Modders do what Nintendont
@sword_9mm A remake of Ocarina of Time is sorely needed. Spend the time that was taken on FF VII and I'll be impressed.
@tseliot
Too bad N is too lazy to do anything right other than prey on us oldsters that grew up with them.
@Chandlero
Oh, I don't like where the 3DS version took the art direction either, but this is even worse. ^^
@johnvboy I agree that switch pro, new switch, whatever would be modest, not an x1x type keeps generation, absolutely. But I also feel that a revision is meaningful despite the sales being currently positive. The hardware is really feeling long in the tooth in a bad way. I think the main issues are not having a 4k scarler for the increasing adoption of 4k screens... Allowing the tv to do it leads to iffy results. And most importantly the ability to keep up with framerates with their own games let alone the struggling ports. Age of calamity is simply embarrassing, and painful to run handheld for a first party, rather second party title. It makes the machine feel like it's not fitting the role they want it to fill.
Sales alone isn't their entire necessity though. Can they afford to let third party dev lose interest now that they have third party interest? They've done it before and been fine, but that doesn't mean that's the best plan.
Idk, 2017 i was the biggest switch fan there was, and it just kept getting better. But once they got that new mass market they just seem to have slipped into their Wii pattern. I hated the Wii. Well, i didn't hate it, it had some iconic games in grateful for the memories for. But it was a machine that got extremely little use because of how they handled the platform and catered to minimal effort at long as sales poured in. They felt the result of that with WiiU, and Iwata recognized and admitted the mistake. But the new management fell right back into it. I really didn't see switch becoming Wii 2.
But yeah 2017, i thought it was poised to become my all time favorite, easily sailing past even 3ds. But while ds, 3ds, and even wiiu offered amazing "core" experiences despite Wii catering to another audience most of the time, this time they have only the "Wii 2"and no second platform for a second audience.
I'm hoping to be less negative on it once mhr and the smt games come out. Atlus is a huge part of 3ds being so special after all. But other than that what switch feels like it's become is, instead of pushing itself as it's own platform, as it last did with the fe3h and astral chain releases, it's become a great box for first time gamers and Nintendo only gamers that haven't played a lot of the 7th generation games. Because the bulk of content that comes to switch has been wiiu ports from first party, and inferior, expensive ports of many years old games that anyone that plays other systems already played, mostly during the Wii years. And it runs them worse than other hardware. Access to handheld versions of some if those games is appealing, yes, but only some of them.
I get why sales are good. Lots of new gamers especially with the pandemic, lots of ds/3ds/wii gamers upgrading that didn't play other systems.
But if you're a "core"player it's devolved into a bunch of old games you already played, inferior versions of newer games, and old first party games. Down from years ago where it was all exciting and much more unique games. Still, if it could keep up with it's own framerates in handheld it would feel a lot more relevant again. It does need a "new switch" to feel fresh again. If they don't do it, i see the business case, but it also makes switch feel like a big disappointment to me as a core player. Still, maybe atlus can help.
@NEStalgia,
Without doubt there will be a revision at some point, and I would guess this year is about the right time, we all know it's there because of the data mine done recently, which mentioned 4K and a better screen, but will be only a modest chip revision and offer a minor performance upgrade at best.
When Nintendo said no pro version recently, they were not lying and a revision is not the same thing, this may be announced sooner than later.
@ObeseChihuahua2 fair enough, but inevitably a new generation will be in about 3 years.... So if they don't release a new hardware model now... When would it make sense?
@johnvboy exactly, that's what i was thinking. Heck new 3ds felt like a whole new platform despite being minor. These updates do matter!
So true, I got the regular size with the cover plates, hopefully this time if there is more power, it will be more enhancements for the better machine, rather than exclusive titles.
@Beatrice I thought the same thing. This looks slightly better than how I remember the 3DS version looking.
@Chandlero @Pod
Ironically, the 3DS art style was probably what Nintendo originally intended for it to look like if you look at the art for the game and how all the Zelda characters looked like in Melee.
@Beatrice that's what happens viewing on a phone. Watch it on a tv and then see bro
@Clyde_Radcliffe as much as I like my 1440p/4k 60+ fps visuals, I have to agree, this game and the early Saturn/PSX games did fantastic jobs of conveying larger than observed worlds with the hardware limitations at the time. It gave me hope and wonder of what else I'd be seeing out of these machines as time moved on. 1994-1998 was a magical time in gaming/tech where anything was almost possible and seemed impossible when pulled off.
Same with the Dreamcast which finally gave me 60fps arcade perfect ports when I picked up mine that early Sept 1999.
Nintendo seems to be the only one that still gives me that same feeling of wonder when it comes to their games and limited hardware.
That says a lot as someone that has a souped up gaming PC rig (3700X, 32g of ram, RX 6800XT, etc)
@ModdedInkling
Perhaps! o.o
Not that we can really know, as different people were responsible for all three products. ^^
@Pod
For the most part, different people. However, Eiji Aonuma worked on both. Rather than being credited as a supervisor for the 3DS remaster, he was credited as a producer for the game.
@Trajan still part of 3ds too. so it doesn't matter and also tbh the video is showing the 3ds version another reason why l said 3ds
I just want OOT on switch. I hope they will port the 3DS version over because I never even gotten one.
I think Nintendo is going to put their best stuff on the Pro. They realized that the Switch was already outdated when it was launched and this was before the other companies released their consoles.
Nintendo is in a huge pinch and only are surviving because the other 2 companies have their heads in their butts and not doing much outside of FPS games and remakes at that. I think many are burnt out at the next generic FPS game whether they admit it or not.
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