Super Mario 3D All-Stars launches today, but, as is often the case in the world of video games, some people got access to it early thanks to kindly retailers shipping them out so they arrived yesterday. However, a lot of people also gained access to the title by somewhat shadier means, thanks to the fact that it leaked on the net a few days ago.
Because copies are "out there" already, we've been hearing reports that the collection suffers from a pretty awful crash bug. It has been claimed that some people are using this bug as yet another stick to beat Super Mario 3D All-Stars with; many have accused Nintendo of a 'lazy cash grab' because the titles in the package are partly based on emulation, rather than being built from the ground-up for Switch. Reports that the title is also potentially unstable has only given these individuals more fuel for their fire.
However, we're now seeing evidence that this particular bug only impacts those who are running the game (retail or downloaded from the web) on a modded Switch console, and the bug is not present in legitimate copies of the game running on unsullied Switch systems:
Don't expect this to be a lasting thing, however; as is so often the case, modders have already overcome the problem.
We quite liked Super Mario 3D All-Stars, as you'll know if you've already seen our review – and watched our comparison video which shows just how much better the games look than they did originally.
[source reddit.com]
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Filthy pirates. Serves them right!
Yes, but all you have to do is launch it from the home screen - don't install it - and it loads fine 😁 the system thinks it's a cartridge and it's smooth sailing from there.
I thought those hacked Switches could load updates of the OS?
I’m not familiar with the hacking though.
Imagine complaining about a game you pirated
Cue Curb your Enthusiasm theme
@Murbs Nothing to do with piracy, happens with the retail game too.
Anyway, it's already fixed. https://github.com/Atmosphere-NX/Atmosphere/releases
Trixie hobbitses... trying to steal the pweshus!
Good! I hope this feature continues for all future titles.
@Damo
What @sj33 said. I know pirate-bashing is popular around here, but y'all should triple-check when it comes to this. Especially since, well, you wrote a pro-piracy article yourself!
@sj33 I’m always quick to jump on something like that. Glad it’s fixed for the legitimate owners
@Damo It's honestly not, mate. Nothing inaccurate in the article, just seeing some comments on here leaping to conclusions. The game relies on some sysmodules that were introduced in 10.0.0 regarding JIT. Since no game until now has used this sysmodule, there were bugs in the CFW. This has since been sorted.
https://github.com/Atmosphere-NX/Atmosphere/releases
The changelog here explains what was fixed.
Hahahahahahahahahaha
If you're going to pirate it then just use an emulator? Then you can stop complaining about lazy ports.
Meanwhile I'll enjoy the official, portable version.
@sj33 I realised what you meant by your comment so I nuked mine - I totally get what you're saying, it's to do with the modded software on the system rather than the pirated copy of the game.
@AlexSora89 You've missed the point of that piece - piracy of games which are no longer in active circulation or are in danger of being lost forever is one thing, but pirating a game that's just been released is very, very different.
@Murbs has nothing to do with piracy, I know plenty of people that run homebrew for stuff like extended video capture (30 seconds is not enough Nintendo) having a browser or to be able to get higher (aka *full) CPU clock speeds.
*the Nvidia chip in the Switch is able to run at higher CPU/GPU speeds than what Nintendo mostly provides, often that gives better or more stable framerates in Switch games and the cooling in the Switch can handle without much issues.
Don't have it yet, in my time zone it's releasing today and I'm in school rn. It will have arrived when I get home tho
@Damo
Well, if there's a game that represents a "maddening stance on legacy content" that could "drive" users to piracy more than anything in recent memory, look no further than Super Mario "available until April 2021" 3D All Stars itself.
[EDIT: I could get behind the limited availability with Four Swords Anniversary Edition - despite the fact it's objectively the definitive way to play the game for single players - because that one was a freebie. This one is a full-priced game!]
So, the modded machines will get punished by original cart of Super Mario 3D All Stars ?
Tsuki ni kawatte oshioki yo !
@Rayquaza2510 Yep. Pirates are pretty darn hated in the Switch modding scene. Most people just want to overclock their games, use PS4/Xbox controllers, or just play Dreamcast games or something.
@AlexSora89 "How to beg for piracy, beginners guide number 4"
Answer: look at the digital release of this game.
I am against piracy, but in all honesty I wouldn't be surprised if people did it after the game is gone from the store, so unless Nintendo has one or another "MASTER PLAN!" (caps-lock on purpose) then I don't know why they went this strange "digital but limited route"
@AlexSora89 You might be able to make that point in April 2021, but not now, when the game is for sale legitimately pretty much everywhere.
@sj33 They aren't hated in the 'modding scene'. Nobody cares.
@Lordplops Really? Try talking about piracy in Reswitched or Switchroot or RetroNX and see how quickly they kick you out.
I guess those who are having issues would know or suspect if they have a pirate copy.
Those who have accused Nintendo of a 'lazy cash grab, have to judge on the evidence or lack of it, available. Nintendo has created this cash grab atmosphere and have not explained if it's untrue.
Part of me wants to say “good, I’m glad” without sounding like a moaning old man
@sj33 Modded OS / cfw IS piracy. 100%.
@sj33 of course - moderators of groups have to APPEAR to toe the line, for obvious reasons. But you show me one person who has modded their Switch and does not have at least one pirated game on it and I'll show you a liar.
@sanderev No it's not. It's custom firmware, that's not piracy.
@Damo Making unauthorised changes to copyrighted software or hardware is piracy. Running cfw on a copyrighted device (Nintendo Switch) is piracy.
@Damo don't waste your time on him, really that's for the better.
@sanderev It really isn't. lolz!
@Rayquaza2510 yup, fair enough. I’ll hold my hand up here - I didn’t consider the alternative uses for customer firmware.
@sanderev Well, you're wrong. I have a modded Switch and an unmodded Switch because I keep them separate, but absolutely no pirated games. The Atmosphere CFW devs, sys-clk devs etc. are anti-piracy to the point of banality, so are most homebrew Switch developers. Don't make blanket statements.
Laws determining that we cannot modify or repair our own things should be fought.
@Northwind Kinda. The game comes with the latest required firmware on the cart, it will force an update.
@Northwind
If the game needs 10.0.0, the cart should provide firmware 10.0.0 (or higher) on it, and require installing the update from the cart to be played.
It sounds like JIT was only added in 10.0.0, so pre-10.0.0 behaviour would probably be 'game doesn't work at all'.
I got a little concerned with the title, but I'm ok. I "modded" my joy-cons colors (including in-system) and thought that could be a problem.
@sj33 however you can use it for piracy. And sure 1% of every modder doesn't. Good for you.
But running any emulator + roms or Switch game you don't own is piracy. That included changed versions of the embedded software of the Switch itself. (You are never allowed to change software that is copyright protected). So if your cfw doesn't have any Nintendo (boot)code it's legal. Otherwise is it's just as much piracy as any pirated game.
As far as I am concerned 'pay to play' to the moders out there.
Honestly, I wouldn't mod a console until the successor comes out and they don't care anymore about the last one. You'll be playing with fire all the time. It's pointless.
@sanderev Well lucky the Atmosphere CFW does not contain any Nintendo boot code because it applies patches on the fly, so perfectly legal.
The EULA that people always cite as disallowing modding of hardware and software isn't law, and it isn't something that people have necessarily agreed to even if they use the game. The EULA itself isn't worth anything in legal terms. People gotta stop assuming that they aren't allowed to do something just because a company put it in the small print.
"Nintendo boot code because it applies patches on the fly, so perfectly legal."
Applying patches on "the fly" is actually changing the software. So piracy.
Remember you own the hardware and can do with it what you want. You do not own the software. You own a license to use the software as it is intended. And here it is that the EULA and the law align.
Something isn't necessarily piracy just because you personally decided so, fortunately.
Again, EULA isn't law. You didn't sign it, and you can't agree to the EULA merely by using it. Agreement can't be merely implicit.
Never mod a current console. Wait until they are no longer supported. There'll be no patches to ruin your fun after that. Hmm that reminds me. Time to mod my 3DS!
trombone sounds
@Zeldafan79 no point in modding 3DS before its eShop goes down IMO. Which is probably not happening for a long time.
@sj33 EULA is not a law indeed, but it's silly to deny it being something that's officially in its very name. And it's always been the legal way of saying, "here's the deal we offer, take it or leave it; break your end of it later, and we won't have any incentive or obligation to uphold ours". No rocket science here.
@nhSnork
Hopefully you're right about that. I'm not done buying things from the 3DS eshop and i wouldn't want to get my account banned. I'll wait.
I have nothing against Pirates/modders but i have to say I find it funny whenever the devs make something like this (I had my share of similar things with AC2 coming to mind where it would crash when you passed the boundaries of the first city)
Everybody has the right to customise their hardware and I have a strong dislike for the gloating happening here.
In my case, I'm just to lazy to mod my switch at the moment.
@sanderev
No it isn’t
I actually keep thinking of Modding mine but strictly for Overclocking and Emulation. No interest in Pirating current games, I can afford to buy them.
@Darkyoshi98 didnt read the whole article eh? Modders have fixed that issue this article said
Wait don't they know that the game came with a day one update? Of course they gonna had problems if they attempt to play it on a modded Switch, the day one update will catch them.
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2020/09/the_day-one_update_for_super_mario_3d_all-stars_is_now_live_version_1_0_1
@Murbs Meh, doesn't really effect anything as the vast majority of people buy ***** they want. Plus you can extract all of the ISO's/ROMS and run them in emulators without crashes if you want.
Meh i can play all these on my Wii anyway. Including the strangely absent Mario galaxy 2! Speaking of which they had a version of the original all stars on snes that included super mario world so why couldn't this have had galaxy 2? Somebody really needs to straight up ask Nintendo what's the deal.
Heres all I have to say: if your modding and pirating switch games that is not ok at all. But I totally get doing it to games we no longer have access too. Like for example gba games. Like for example certain snes games or nes games or even some n64 and gba games. But the problem is that if you are doing this stuff, and they re release something you're playing pirated, it's your responsibility to at least support the dev. (For example, being a real nintendo fan after playing links awakening on my pocket go v2 I preordered the remake. On the other hand there is games like ninja 5 o in gba purgatory that I feel no shame in pirating.
***** review of the game my NL, but the info in this article was hilarious. Nice to know.
@Damo not really, theres a very valid argument made when people point out the initial sales for these games were made YEARS ago, how many people who worked on n64 still work at nintendo or are alive even?
The only things these sales recouperate on in costs is the emulation on switch, which cost massively less then say cyberpunk 2077, another game being sold at £50
Selling legacy software at same price as current AAA releases is a joke and pretty sad to see imo
@sanderev well you sound like a bitch and nobody cares what you think about piracy ***** the big N you can keep handing cash for a game you've already paid for 20 years ago and they didn't do any improvements on (beyond upscaleing which they probably stole from one of the ports that they shut down) like a retard all you want. But I don't feel bad for stealing from thieves.
@mariomaster96 That was my first thought. That's like robbing a bank and then complaining the bills are covered in ink.
$60 for an emulated game?
What a ripoff. They could have at least properly ported them.
@Hatchet224 WOW dude what did that person say to get you so excited? I say I'm fifty fifty on this boat. I pirate games that I can't get otherwise (path of radiance, mother 3, etc.) Or games I already own. For instance: I pirated earthbound because I have snes classic. I still try to support the dev's though. Like pirating pokemon on gba is fine in my book. Your stealing something yes but there is no victim. On the other hand stealing I don't know three houses you are directly impacting sales and that in my opinion is not ok just because I mean come on it's right there in the store and your pirating it? You don't walk into a target to grab pokemon gba. To me doing this to new games is like shoplifting. Now I'm not shaming anyone but that is my opinion. On the stealing from nintendo part... just don't do it to new games. It's not a money thing but is a success thing and you are basically taking away from a games success. Bottom line: if nintendo has a way to play these games, probably not very morally great to steal them. For example: I was going to pirate galaxy but then this was announced and I thought that I would support my favorite game as a kid rather than steal it when I can play it like intended and support the game. Sure I'm pissed about galaxy 2, but it's important to remember that directly stealing, is not ok. If you pirate all your games on ns you are literally stealing thousands of dollars from a company you may not always agree with but their job is to make money not make you happy.
Oh by the way what did that guy say that you responded too I'm lazy lol. Also if you're into emulation look into a pocketgo v2 it is fantastic
@sanderev Modding something is piracy? So people who mod their car engines are pirates, with that logic...Boy, some of the people on this site with their knee-jerk reactions....
@Ghostchip Well, and honestly Earthbound is a reasonable one, seeing as the base game costs more than a Nintendo Switch with a pro controller!
@tameshiyaku I’m with you there, it’s always very strange to see the cult-like, overly fearful reaction on this website when it comes to modding/pirating. Like people on this site think it’s some glorious moral high ground that they don’t pirate. Meanwhile, other people will defend Nintendo to their dying breath amidst joy con drift discussions and talks about poor performance and lazy ports like Mario collection. Mostly, the site is good, but the Nintendo cult worshippers are very tiring.
@TG16_IS_BAE well I also own earthbound on the snes classic too lol
@Ghostchip I saw that in your original comment. I don’t judge you either way, I don’t think it’s very morally wrong to pirate Earthbound, of all things.
@TG16_IS_BAE also n64 games are like a gazillion dollars and I don't own a system besides the switch (I donate my consoles when the next one comes out except my dsi xl that brick is the best still in 2020 lol). Same with most snes games. I mean if they would just have a great virtual console on every system this wouldn't even have to happen. Nso is the perfect way to do this but they have given us next to nothing and even if n64 comes out there probably wont be close to enough games...
@TG16_IS_BAE yeah I get it. I personally don't think it's wrong to pirate games when it doesn't benefit nintendo to buy them anyway when the only way to get them is through scalpers (I buy re releases even if I pirated a copy I did this with mega man x and links awakening). Yeah pirating switch games or new games that affect nintendo in anyway is like shoplifting in my books. Another one is path of radiance on the gamecube and radiant dawn on wii. some of the best games in both consoles that had atrocious release dates (for example radiant dawn was released like a day before galaxy, so no one seems to remember these fire emblems). Anyway they literally cost hundreds of dollars. Even hardcore fe fans post guides on pirating them when they hate pirating lol
Hilarious that the people that did not purchase it and downloaded the ROM for free are pissed. I think Nintendo should put forth even more effort trying to stop pirates. But that is just my opinion.
@Ghostchip Agreed on all counts. For example, there’s an old arcade game I emulate called Cybattler, amazing little gem of a shmup. Anyway, the only way to play it is if I put together a Japanese arcade cabinet, which would run me several thousand dollars. No thanks. People can shame me from their moral high ground but it mainly just makes me laugh.
@Ghostchip Right, my only beef with NSO is when they shut down the servers, bye bye games. Look at Castlevania ReBirth, forever stuck in limbo Emulation saves it though! So yay.
@TG16_IS_BAE same dude if it does not take money away from dev's I have zero shame. If it does I don't do it. For example: I pirated Phoenix wright ace attorney and didn't know there was a collection on switch. I personally prefer the ds copies but I purchased the trilogy anyway because not doing that would take money and sales away from devs. Also it's a great game if your into that stuff definitely recommend!
@Ghostchip Thanks! And yeah, no shame. Life's too short to shame people for something so trivial.
Shrugs...nothing to do with me then....
@TG16_IS_BAE yeah I might pirate 64 just to do a blj I only ever owned the ds version and that was why I was so excited to try this version lol. I'm no speed runner of 64 but I still think it's funny to see him go so fast!
@Ghostchip At some point, I will learn to speedrun Mario 64. I run Dark Souls/Bloodborne/Demon's Souls, but the "platforming" in those is infinitely easier. Mario 64 is all platforming, and I"m better at 2D platforms than 3D, so...that will be mayhem lmao
@TG16_IS_BAE same I may not speedrun but my friends all say I'm great at 2d games but I am garbage at 3d games. I swear i was playing 64 on my ds (actually my first game ever so i have a lot of experience) recently and i still struggle on the easiest of levels. Although some platformers I'm great at all depends on physics like crash games I'm decent at mario oddessy I feel godlike at. I remember as a kid I was like the coolest for how good I was at battle for bikini bottom lol. My best game is probably hollow knight and Mario's but since galaxy's my favorite game ever made I would love to speedrun that even though I'm not great at it (playing it right now in between my last comment and this one i picked up all stars at best buy surprised by how accurate the pointer controls are feels like it's on the wii and if it gets off just press r amazing!)
On a unrelated note what would a ace attorney trilogy speedrun look like I'd never do it but since you can speed through text it would probably be a funny one to run lol
@Ghostchip Some games that are text heavy, like RPGs look hilarious during runs. I've never played Ace Attorney, but I'm sure there are speedruns of it out there. You should try it! It's really fun to do. I don't sit there grinding the game like streamers do, I don't have that sort of time to spare, plus it's not my career. But it's a fun past time to try to path these games in the quickest way possible.
I hope their systems get bricked
@TG16_IS_BAE if you hold down the b button the text just scrolls super fast thought I'd be funny to watch as it's more of a visual novel with the occasional puzzle than a game lol
@ALinkttPresent judging by your picture your salty about galaxy 2 as well right? I feel you man same here. Although I don't agree with the whole hope your systems are bricked thing (homebrew and stuff shouldn't be punished but piracy of switch games should be IMO).
@ALinkttPresent Awww, where on the doll did the bad modder touch you?
It's fixed now. Nice.
Wah wah wah my stolen copy if the game doesn't work right! Wah wah wah, Nintendo is at fault!
#nosympathy
I hate that modding is so heavily tied to piracy. I respect the skills needed. But not the theft.
@sj33
First off I applaud you for stating you "mod" your Switch as opposed to Hack. Drives me insane that people think otherwise.
As far as the EULA the argument you have is technically right but not viable in court every time. There are numerous cases deciding either way whether you can legally agree to an agreement without signing or verbally stating so. Versions of EULA's have been used in other industries to great advantage effectively quelling any dissent on behalf of the consumer and this is the precedent normally cited by the video game industry. The problem is the entanglement of the creator/owners IP rights in conjunction with an outdated DRM policy.
I for one, being in the industry mind you, feel EULA's are crap. Also the right to repair/physical ownership movement is in the right because there is no legislation that explicitly states you are leasing/renting a piece of hardware when you make a purchase and agree to relinquish those rights. Here again we have outdated laws and policies that have been reinterpreted to create an over reach in response to theft/piracy of IP and likeness which in it's ignorance harm the ones that actually make the purchase.
Piracy is a different matter for me. I and many of the companies I contracted with have been hurt by piracy. What people do not realize that the developers and designers actually get hit harder than the companies in many cases. On my own I have had my stuff pirated but I try not to worry about it. If a game is out of production I think we need a more uniform way of preserving it for the future so it is legal(to protect the user actually) and costs minimal. There are so many titles that have disappeared and the real problem now is the rights holders have changed so many times and companies sold, bankrupted or licensed out that untangling them is not feasible. I have no answer for that situation but most likely you could still preserve these games for a nominal fee without legal actions being taken.
Honestly modding your console is not an issue. In regards too piracy My stance on it is that if you can't buy it new physical (with the exception of it being rare and expensive) or digital then I call that abandoned ware and it is free game for me too download.
I have download old pc that I use too own as a kid but couldn't buy then anywhere too download. But once those games got added too GOG then I damn well bought them right away as there is now a legal way for me too purchase these games digitally.
It's shameless really. If you want to pirate then at least own up to it, the worst part of this whole thing is knowing there's pirates trying to pass themselves off as legitimate customers.
I don't think anyone should stick up for these people, especially modders. These software pirates are the very people who give console modding a bad reputation.
Is your Nintendolife Article out of date an hour after it was published? It's because it's click bait that was never important.
Naughty naughty naughty.
@koekiemonster You can. The issue has nothing to do with updating the OS. It's updating the custom firmware.
@lordzand Reread. Where is it outdated?
Still having this issue with sunshine. And we have nothing modded or pirated.
What was so ‘naughty naughty’ nintendolife?
There is zero issue with modding your own hardware and your subheading just makes you sound thick or ignorant.
@X68000 Right. Most Switch modders don't bother with piracy. For me, console modding is for homebrew apps, plain and simple. And maybe a bit of game modding, but not to anything online that could be considered cheating - just stupid stuff like graphics/text mods.
Nonsense! Nothing in these respects will be a higher cash grab than Super Mario All-Stars: 25th Anniversary Edition.
Everybody should know at this point that any strange decision will make sense later on. These emulator clues just prove that Nintendo can bring any of their N64 - GameCube - Wii games to Switch with upscaled resolution, just like the NSO games. And maybe, MAYBE one of these classic titles could recieve the full-remake treatment, like Wind Waker HD.
You want a remake similar to the Crash Trilogy? Well, if that had happened, then I hope you could've been patient to wait for the next main Super Mario entry in 2023, just like how Crash fans waited 3 years for Crash Bandicoot 4. I'd rather wait for the next main entry, even more so when you think classic 3D levels DLC could come for it.
Wait, I don't even know what the heck I'm typing... we're suppossed to talk here about those crashes, right? Well, I don't have a modded Switch, so I believe I'm safe from those crashes. But for those who are lucky to have that extra customization, be glad the community overcame these troubles in so little time
No thanks, for ruining a perfect day but... thanks for giving me a good idea of what's next for Mario.
@sanderev Internet browsers can be used for piracy, so do not return to NintendoLife you dirty pirate!
My switch isn't a mod and yet sunshine has frozen 3 times, galaxy once, and 64 once. Nintendo is just trying to cover up the fact that they re-released 3 piece of ***** emulator games for $60. I will never pay another cent to this company.
I got the game yesterday and played Mario 64 for an hour. Has anyone else noticed the tree bug? When climbing trees you can see Mario’s model as if there was no tree (i.e. theres no tree model blocking Mario when he’s behind). It doesn’t seem to be an issue when climbing poles.
My brother's console wasn't modded and he nearly got bricked. It finally restarted though, but not sure if his switch actually reboots fine. Mine, on the other hand, was okay.
The quality of this release is so poor regardless of modded systems or purposely made bugs.
Super Mario 64 PC already has tastefully done remodels, widescreen, flawless 60fps implementation and analogue cameras.
Super Mario Sunshine doesn't even support Gamecube controllers, fludd has been crippled.
Super Mario Galaxy has drift and is unplayable.
What a waste of money.
Dumb@$$ modders.
@Damo, technically @sanderev is not wrong, at least for Japan. It's illegal to mod your Switch: https://www.cinemablend.com/games/2464635/modding-your-console-is-now-illegal-in-japan
However it's perfectly legal in the US and I believe Europe as well. You just can't make any money off the modded console, or it would be a form of copyright infringement.
@kalosn crash fans have been waiting 21/22 years for crash 4.been waiting since 1998
Haven't had a single issue on mine either. It's been nice being able to save up lives in Sunshine for that awful "secret" Sprite you have to use Yoshi to access then ride a leaf down a poison river for 8 red coins. Used to have to spend awhile building up lives everytime I was ready to tackle that one. Now I can just leave game running throughout my playthrough and keep all my lives. So basically, one steady endless game of Sunshine so far; not a single glitch or crash. At 98 shines.
I don't have a modded switch though (unless I was sold one 2+years ago unknowingly) and it just crashed my console (and it may have blown out my speakers as well, but that could just be that they were old).
It got fixed , it works now
Ahah hahahaha
https://youtu.be/Zq0aboAocks
@Lordplops 1. You're talking about mounting an .xci file, something that only SXOS allows. SXOS is also garbage. So, no thanks.
@Kimyonaakuma you can play 2 of the 3 on the Switch via emulators already, both of which run better with full widescreen, better framerates, texture packs if you want more modern looks, customizable controls, cheat codes, and more.
But that's besides the point. You paid $60 for 3 copies of emulated games. It was already proven - Nintendo packed 3 roms into this pack. Anyone buying this is a fool.
@Darkyoshi98
23 years? That is if you don't consider the Wrath of Cortex as Crash Bandicoot 4. Or before the IP could be better established as now.
When they rebooted the franchise with N.Sane Trilogy, they essentially promised fans that the franchise was truly back. Before 2017, many Crash games came by, but none could replicate the classic formula.
Been playing 64 for hours on cartridge. Runs just fine. Except trying to get 100 coins in Hazy Maze Cave. That beckons the game to be “crashed” into a wall. lol
@Anti-Matter this made my day thank you
If you're going to mod a system, isn't the rule to have two of them? One to mod and keep offline and locked onto a specific firmware so no one catches you and another to keep online, legit, and updated?
Oof ban detector )
Lol, people who spend $300 for a Switch, and a $70 pro controller, but 60 dollars is just too much x3
@Damo If someone's already dumped the ROM online (and probably still has a backed up copy him/herself), then it's not lost forever whether or not you download it, is it? Meanwhile, you're still not entitled to free entertainment no matter how rare and/or expensive a legitimate copy of certain games are. Either keep looking, fork out the required dough, or just accept that you won't be able to play it anytime soon and potentially wait for it to fall into the public domain decades from now.
@Ghostchip So you'll just take money away from online sellers and used games stores instead? Many of them need the money even more than the original developers do.
@DamienMcFerran
This is not a professionally written article. I would not put it in my resume for a future work.
@BulbasaurusRex We're going to have to agree to disagree here. I'm all for supporting resellers and retro stores - and I regularly do, as it happens - but if a game is no longer in circulation and there's no means of purchasing it digitally due to rights being lost or licensing prohibiting it, I'm not going to lose any sleep over ROMs being downloaded from the internet. And, as has been mentioned many times before, countless games would be lost forever if it weren't for people dumping the ROM and sharing it with others.
@sj33 you signed it when you bought it - hate to burst your rosy views but EULA is law. If you don't like don't buy it. And hardware/software beyond official updates violates EULA and you will loose in a court of law.
@Damo tell that to the software programmers (not the company who profited from their work) whom wrote the software and see why they disagree with those comments.
@mikegamer either you support those programmers development or your just a pirate in Switch clothing. Those are the two realities you don't get to change that because you feel entitled. Notice you don't say that to xbox/psx prices but selectively only notice Nintendo. That should say alot.
@SwitchForce There are numerous cases of developers supporting the free distribution of their past games online. If they wrote the game for a publisher which no longer exists, they're not going to be bothered about people experiencing it for free - in fact, a lot of them seem to encourage this because it keeps their work alive.
@SwitchForce Did I stutter?
I don’t care if something was done in emulation vs a complete rewrite. As long as it’s fun...that’s all that matters to me. People complain because SM3DAS is emulation (mostly). They complain because of slowdown in Zelda - Links Awakening which was a complete rewrite.
Someone is always going to find something to complain about. Even I have something to complain about - lack of accessibility controls - can’t invert the controls in Sunshine to be the same as it was on the GameCube. But it’s not stopping me from enjoying what I can.
If things truly bothers people so much, don’t play the games...go back under the bridge you came from.
From what I can tell, there was instability in both CFW and the game itself as there were patches for both. There’s no such thing as perfect code (unless it’s “Hello World”).
I don’t mind using CFW to check out a game a few days early, but I’ve literally purchased every single game I’ve played and will continue to do so.
@Halvorsen read the other comments. There was already a fix with the hacked consoles and a workaround when this was published.
@lordzand
"Don't expect this to be a lasting thing, however; as is so often the case, modders have already overcome the problem."
This was in the article since it was published. That is why I directed them to reread the article.
@Cosats This is not a professionally written comment. I would not post something like this on NintendoLife in the future.
@IpwnedU123 This is not a professionally authored avatar. I would not show my face like this on NintendoLife in the future.
@YeahHeck Right back at you.
@IpwnedU123 Can't argue with that tbh
I just placed an order for myself so I am really excited about it.
I get it. But if you can already play the games on an emulator on your pc then do that instead. You are literally complaining you have issues with hacking the Switch itself. You know the risks of "modding" your switch. So deal with it. On the other hand, I too dislike the fact that physical games don't JUST WORK off the cartridge without some sort of day one patch. Keep that crap for digital purchases and put all the needed files on the cartridge itself! Don't be lazy Nintendo! You need to add all the necessary files on the cartridge and make it so that when the game installs what little files it needs, it also installs the files needed for it to run smoothly without the need for an update. It's common sense. Some people genuinely don't have access to internet.
@Halvorsen but that statement being in the article just reinforces there was no point in writing the article in the first place. It was click bait.
@lordzand
The point of a news site is to update people on breaking information that is relevant to them... there were many cases of people blaming the crashes on the game instead of Atmosphere. People generally aren't psychic and will need to be told that a custom firmware update is available to mitigate the issue outlined in the article. That is about as pointless a statement as saying "Nintendo already announced Breath of the Wild 2, why is this website just parroting it?"
No reason to get your pitchforks out for no reason other than boredom and clout. It's ridiculous.
@Halvorsen people aren't checking Nintendolife for updates about Custom Firmware. It's not the same as a game announcement either. They know that people comment on piracy on here and they spit out an article about it to generate clicks. They do that a lot.
@Murbs Most Switch Hackers aren't pirates. I just started with homebrew today and I find it fun seeing all the cool things you can do with it.
@lordzand This is a Nintendo site... it serves Nintendo news... and issues regarding Nintendo consoles using custom firmware which a large portion of the fanbase uses is Nintendo news.
What's next?
"People aren't checking Nintendo Life to see Warner Bros.' opinion of Mortal Kombat 11"?
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2020/10/warner_bros_was_worried_mortal_kombat_11_wouldnt_be_nintendo-friendly
Heres the learning lesson for the year dont mod mario games people..
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