Super Mario 3D All-Stars Has Reportedly Leaked Onto The Internet Already

Stores already had it in stock over 1 week ago, so it's bound to happen.

@ZelthkingYoutube same got also 2. Also digital

@ZelthkingYoutube ..2?

@Joriss ome to keep sealed and the other one to play

I wonder if there is any evidance about Super Mario Galaxy 2 in the source code.

Maybe as DLC or even if the game is unlockable or something.

Let's hope those emulators will be put into good use for more classics on the Switch.
But as those games use original patched roms, I fear we will also get a Zelda 3D all-stars next year with the N64 games without the parts from the 3DS remasters

@neufel I am hoping we get a Zelda 3D collection for Switch next year !

@jco83 Ha, reread my posts and it was poorly worded! I also hope we will have one!
I just don't know if I prefer a HD N64 version or HD 3DS version for OoT and MM.
But yeah, that would be sweet either way!

@jco83 I’m aching for a Metroid collection.

The Prime trilogy and hoping for the GBA games get some love as well.

@BrintaPap Hardcore

@neufel the purist in me would just prefer HD versions of the originals for a collection. Ideally OoT is such a groundbreaking game that it deserves a full remake ala FF7 Remake.

So there's no surprises, they're all emulated.

I guess this confirms that this is the Nvidia Shield version of Galaxy though, pretty sure they have the same processor so that new code will have helped.

So how did they change the aspect ratio in Sunshine? A regular emulator couldn't do that normally, as far as I'm aware.

... "F-Zero GX" on Switch when?

@MaxlRoseGNR if there were a hidden game we should know by now. Pirates have this game at least since Saturday, so nothing this big would go unnoticed for more than a couple of hours.

NERD is a great Nintendo division so we can trust them on the quality.

But... emulation adds input lag and the Switch in docked mode is already the console with the most input lag of this generation.
That's a bummer for playing on TV :/

At this point, I almost enjoy what seems to the be the Mad comic strip of Spy vs Spy of Nintendo vs Data Miners in the game of the well-know paranoid Nintendo trying to keep everything on lock down in a world that has changed the environmnet on them.

Emulation was to be expected otherwise they would have remade them, I do wonder if these emulators will be used for Switch online and thats why these are limited for long long they're on sale

@Kimyonaakuma The fact that they used emulators also means they could easily include all the games on the cartridge with no problem. Had they actually remastered all three games instead, I doubt they won't be able to include all of them on one cartridge, it would had to use download codes like what the Capcom, Crash, and Spyro games did.

@Mogster why would you prefer the original 64 versions over the 3DS remasters? they run at like 20fps, too many bugs, the graphics didn't age well and I don't think Aonuma would pull this kind of foolery on us.

I highly believe we'll get the Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Wind Waker and Twilight Princess in a collection but Skyward Sword HD would be a standalone release.

Oh my god who the hell cares? Three games that have been widely available online for over a decade have leaked! I'm sure this must be astounding news for anyone who's never heard of an emulator.

I guess this rules out improving the Mario 64 camera so it’s fully controllable by the right stick instead of in increments and have it go fully around Mario.

Why bother putting in secrets and extras as a developer, if some kid is just going to spill everything on twitter beforehand anyway.

Huh so if I get two games I can use one to send my children through college or pay off a house?

lol

Emulation? I hate LAG!
I do not approve of this

@Dezzy

Seems they pretty much just cropped the image and zoomed in a bit. According to little gameplay showed compared to Gamecube version, Switch version has a slightly more narrow field of view and everything seems to be a bit closer to the camera.

There goes any interest I might have in purchasing this collection.
However, I still hope many newcomers will enjoy the games!

Now we wait for people to reveal that Galaxy 2 is in the code or whatever these people do.

So you're saying they can put emulated N64 games on Switch? I'm listening.

@neufel I’d definitely prefer HD versions of the 3DS remakes. It’d be better still if there was an option to switch between the N64 and 3DS graphics on the fly (like Wonder Boy: The Dragon’s Trap). It would’ve been cool if Nintendo had done that with Mario 64 in this collection, too!

@Brianst0rm obviously I wasn't talking about the actual literal original - they'd obviously update things like FPS for a re-release collection like this. The 3DS version is nice but I'm a purist - the original graphics and their history still appeal to me.

Lol good. Every Switch user that pirates this is a small victory against the greedy Nintendo! Rob them just as they rob you ☺️

@Dezzy The main gamecube/wii emulator can add widescreen through hacky methods.

@personauser93 normally id disagree with you but this time 100% agree. Farce situation

so can we have all the 3d zeldas ?

@noobish_hat 😂 hahahaha 👍

@Ardisan

Ah yes, I'm looking at it now. They use some kind of code injection into the game. That must've taken them quite a while to figure out. Dolphin is one of the most advanced emulators I've seen though. They've done almost everything.

@noobish_hat A slap in what way exactly ? Like people care how the games are run. It will sell like nothing, as usual.

This puts Galaxy 2's absence under a whole new light. On one hand, the fact that Galaxy is emulated makes the reuse of assets in Galaxy 2 (to save space on the overall package) impossible, so the absence is justified. On the other hand, it makes this compilation seem lazy (I used "seem" because of all the HUD/input icon changes, widescreen and whatnot).

I don’t know why people are surprised. How on earth would the switch run these games without emulating most parts unless of course they were completely rebuilt for the Switch? If they remastered Mario64 then a rebuild might have been worth it but not for the other 2 which look great in HD. (They even look great played on original hardware with an mClassic upscaling the digital output). There isn’t a little N64 and Wii tucked away inside the Switch somewhere.

@Totakekeke Hahahah, “some kid.” You think data-mining is so accessible that just anybody can do it? If a kid can do it, that’s not “some kid,” that’s a brilliant freaking child lmao!!

I'm only waiting to hear that Galaxy 2 will unlock after completing Galaxy 1...

But seriously, emulation means that other contents (Galaxy 2) may be made available whenever with 5 minuts notice.

DLC, VIRTUAL CONSOLE, NINTENDO ONLINE... SO MANY OPTIONSSSSSSS!! WII SPORTS!! WII PARTY!! ALL THE ZELDAS!!! AAAAAAAGGGGH...

@abdias I think Nintendo couldn’t squeeze galaxy 2 on 8Gb cart so they’ve cheaped out in a very clever way. I think there will be a Day 1 patch to enable Galaxy 2 download after beating Bowser in all three games. Now, as it’s a bonus download it’ll set the internet on fire and gain Great publicity however I believe It’s a clever way to cheap out on cart cost and avoid negative publicity on a mandatory download.

@Dezzy Emulators have been able to do that for years, Dolphin emulator (gamecube emulator) for example has widescreen hacks for various gamecube games, with results varying from game to game

Far from impossible to take an old 4:3 game and make it 16:9, its the main menus and stuff like that which would need reworking entirely for 16:9

Or maybe it's just stretched

@Dezzy My bad I noticed someone else already said this already to ya, sorry xD

@beazlen1 I don't believe that galaxy 2 is included by any means, they would announced otherwise. When Nintendo made Star Fox 2 unlockable, they advertised a lot about it. So don't expect Galaxy 2 before March and consider that it may never come to Switch.

@Ardisan yup. Same here. Plus anyone with a hacked switch to play this leak probably already has the better sm64 port with widescreen remastered and redone camera controls. Galaxy is a welcome addition though since motions are remapped to buttons.

@abdias
There's a chance that even though the content itself might not be there, there could be hints to it. I remember there was a list of the SNES NSO app games first spotted in the NES NSO app for example.

@beazlen1
On the WiiU, Mario Galaxy 1 was 3.7GB, and Mario Galaxy 2 was 1.6GB. Mario Galaxy 2's always been a small filesize so 8GB carts shouldn't have been a limiting factor.

Nintendo of Europe division is called NERD - Amazing!

Son no leaks of a Paper Mario collection, yet?

@BrintaPap @ZelthkingYoutube Me too. Got a physical to keep sealed and a digital to play.

@Doktor-Mandrake

The fact that Dolphin figured out how to do it might actually be the very reason they managed it in 3D all-stars whereas they couldn't in Mario 64.
It's definitely not an easy task to try and debug something like that.

Emulators cannot magically render a non widescreen game in widescreen (Sunshine) so that sounds like bullplop to me.

@abdias yeh I appreciate I’m firmly in fanboy dreamland territory.

@bluesun ok so my hopeful theory is debunked. I’m still hoping it’s gonna be a surprise bonus though.

@MaxlRoseGNR what kind of drugs are you on to think Nintendo would made dlc for something like this.

Can’t wait to play sunshine again

@ritouf Are you sure? I never saw an option to naively run it in widescreen without stretching the image unless I am blind.

@Dezzy They could have compiled 64 natively and gave it widescreen, someone did it already with the source code leak, there is a fully PC native Mario 64 and a Switch native port already too.

@Jokerwolf

I know. They've added mods and everything. Nintendo should've done that.

@TG16_IS_BAE oh, then why waste your energy on something this trivial. So it's an adult with the priorities of a child.

This changes literally nothing, already bought it and would have still bought it eitherway.

@Brianst0rm I would love a 3d zelda collection and I think you're right that Aonuma wouldn't want to spite his fan base unlike what has happened with mario, and nintendo in general this year. Saying that however, I cant see them putting four games in the collection, I'd say three max. It would be amazing if they were based on the 3ds updates, but it's probably more likely that they'll be cleaned up n64 versions with better frame rate (I hope).

Nice now I have to doge spoilers for the next half of the week.

So they haven't improved the controls in any way?

@Zuljaras For Nintendo, they sure hate it. They'll go pretty far in order to shut down emulator sites. It's funny that fan made emulators can run Super Mario 64 in wide screen better than Nintendo's emulation team can.

So, as expected, Nintendo could’ve spent money making these games up to date, knowing that they’d more than make money back.

.. but instead, decided to half ass it, and spend a couple of weeks on them, knowing they’d make same amount of money regardless.

Sigh, sucks to be a Nintendo fan sometimes

@Totakekeke okay, boomer.

Also, I wouldn't be so quick to call someone who understands this kind of stuff a "kid" or "an adult with the priorities of a child" when I'm pretty sure that you yourself know nothing about this stuff. It's easy to criticize people in a field that you know nothing of, but calling them "kids" just to make yourself feel better is super sad.

I´m disappointing they are just the original ones, Ill love to play an remastered just as they did (with some issues) with the original All Stars.

I'm okay with emulation.

@Totakekeke Hm?

@Slowdive extreme wishful thinking but Good lord I would scream in joy if we get Perfect Dark release on Switch.

I wonder if they can use the same emulators to add some wii, gamecube, and 64 virtual console to switch

Yeah I'd rather play Legit instead of risking a nintendo switch modification and stream this on it's release date.

Apparently, if you try to normally exit from 64 to the main menu, it straight up softlocks the console:

https://mobile.twitter.com/DeathChaos25/status/1305894568697704448

Day One patch, anyone?

@Mogster OoT doesn’t really need a full on remake (aside from the 3DS one; maybe with HD textures); it’s aged a lot better than Final Fantasy 7, that’s for sure.

I've been playing since last night

@smashboy2000 Speaking of lag, are you making sure to run games in your TVs “Game Mode”? It makes ALL the difference. My Samsung TV feels instant with Mario Maker 2, but only if that mode is on. Otherwise the default-smooth frame interpolation messes with the latency (Makes perfect sense: it’s adding frames that aren’t really there).

I wonder if Galaxy 2 could have fit.
The three games currently equal out to 4.73Gb

@smashboy2000 Do you have a link that talks more about docked input delay? I'm curious to know more about that!

I don’t actually care if the games are emulated or if they are ports.
This will be the first time I try Mario Sunshine, so I’m very excited.
And I’ve seen people killing each other online for all the emulation stuff, but I’m happy that I don’t see that negativity in here!

I’m really willing to try the game on Friday!,

@Antraxx777 Of course my TV is in Game Mode. And you're right, it changes eveything. I'm very sensitiv to lag over 10-12ms. Under, I almost don't feel it.

I discovered that by buying a 61ms input lag TV (in Game Mode !!) : after 6-8 months, I didn't have any more pleasure to play video games. Out of nowhere, I decided to plug my PS4 on a PC monitor and the result was striking. I understood I was sensible to lag to an extent I didn't imagine. I made a lot of tests after on 2ms, 10ms, 13ms and 21ms input lag screens. And a CRT.

Since then I have a 21ms input lag Oled screen and a PVM (Professional CRT). And I got back for a few weeks my 11ms Plasma from the basement to compare.
As I'm a huge retrogamer enthusiast, I can see the difference :

• Switch on my Oled has a big input lag. I feel it A LOT.
• PS4 & Xbox One have input lag, not as big as Switch, but it exist and I feel it very much
• PS4 and Xbox One on my 11ms Plasma have a very reduced input lag. It's cool.
• Megadrive or Snes or any old analog console on my Oled through an OSSC (that add zero input lag) has a tiny input lag. I can feel it but it's far more bearable than PS4, X1 and especially Switch.
• Switch in portable mode has almost no Input lag. The difference with docked is incredible
• Analog consoles like Megadrive, Snes, on a CRT, have zero input lag. It feels for me like it felt while playing as a kid.
• PS3 on a CRT has very low input lag I think. I tried briefly on my old CRT, while I wasn't that deep into input lag measurements. I haven't test it since I got a PVM but I intend to.

And Raspberry Pi have the worst inout lag ever. I can't play anymore on Recalbox or Retropie. I have to check RGB-Pi though, which is known for its very low input lag.
But I'm more tempted to try MiSter Fpga...

I can't wait to play on Xbox Series X as they announce "ultra-low latency" (nothing as such announced yet on PS5 :/ )
I can't wait to play at 120Hz too : it divides input lag by two !
And I plan to buy a new OLED 11ms screen : in 120fps, the input lag will go down to 5ms !

@Albire check my last answer, just here ⬆️
It will answer your question..

Makes no difference to my purchase

I don’t know why people are obsessing over the physical copy. Makes no sense. I’m a retro collector in a big way yet ALL my Switch games barring Zelda are downloads. Why? Well there’s one cart slot so this way I get more games on my person at any one point. Zelda hasn’t left my Personal Switch since launch.

Cannot wait for 3D All Stars to unlock at midnight. Not sleeping that night (just nap during the following day heh). I believe that’s a Sunday but it’s okay for me. I hated work so I worked very hard AND very smart to set up revenue streams. Any who yeah I’m jumping right into Galaxy. 64 I played to death, Sunshine was alright but Galaxy is just one of the best games ever. I hope they add Galaxy 2 as free content but don’t care if they charge.

Already got my Gamecube controller ready using the 8bitdo adapter. Who cares about official Smash bros Gamecube port support… I got it anyways using another adapter - HA!

I love these game bundles. I got all the 2K ones that popped up a few months back. But got Bioshock 1 and 2 separately as one of the staff on Infinite was a gamergater. Haven’t played them yet mind you.

@smashboy2000 Well it’s good you have all those choices. I think a 13ms delay is perfectly playable personally.

I didn’t know Raspberry Pi has such bad lag, thanks for the heads up.

@Mynameishello You can’t resell a digital copy of the game. This being a limited collector’s edition makes it worth a lot in the coming years. Also it’s a nice thing to display on the shelf. I bought 2 copies, personally.

@smashboy2000 Ohh I see! I honestly spaced a display's ms input delay but that would explain why I don't usually notice it! I use a pc monitor with my switch 90% of the time, and handheld the rest so I'm just used to low latency lol
I appreciate how informative your response was! It helped remind me of some things, and I learned a bunch too!

Why would anyone want to play SM64 on an emulator on the Switch when there is a native port for CFW users?

Everything about SM3DAS is so sloppy. In the original SMAS, the games were completely remade and remastered for new hardware. Sadly, SM3DAS is nothing more than a quick and dirty cash grab...

@russell-marlow Exactly! I remember using an emulator on my PSP many years ago that played it in widescreen without any issues. The SM64 experience in SM3DAS is simply inexcusable.

The game selection menu in the game is classy and slick. Can't wait. SUNSHINE!!!!!

@Kev_Morrison there is a rumor Galaxy 2 is unlockable or will be available for free dlc. 👍

@IpwnedU123 I actually wanted Sunshine in it's original GameCube glory but in HD. I lost my original copy and it's expensive new.... I keep my games in mint condition so used was not an option.

@Mogster both it and Majora's Mask deserve the Final Fantasy treatment.

@super-nintendo
From the file size, there is no way it is unlockable.
The game is 4.73 gb

@NintendoPok The reason why people were expecting more than what they got is because SMAS had full-blown remakes/remasters of the games in the collection. SM3DAS simply does not live up to the standards set by SMAS.

I have a Switch with CFW and another Switch for NSO, so the only games that I buy are retail copies of games with good online multiplayer, such as Smash SMM2, and MK8DX. Everything else I just get for free.

A friend bought me a physical copy. do you know much I'm squeeing over that? I was 1 year 11 months and 27 days old when the first Super Mario came out in 1985. I was 16 when Mario 64 came out. Oh man, this will be the only game in my switch for a while.

@Kev_Morrison the rumor arose because the Galaxy 2 music is used on the press start screen before the game selection menu....

I bought it because I love Galaxy and I dont like piracy in videogames. However, I hope as many people pirate this game as we will buy it. Nintendo needs to be shown a lesson.

I havent and will not buy terrible TOK, however

Why is this a big deal? I genuinely don’t get it this doesn’t seem important at all

@Fulgor_Astral the games already exist...

@IpwnedU123 probably because remaking a game at that time wasn’t that hard because it simply meant updating the sprites to have 16 bits while remaking three games into modern next gen standards in one year nowadays is just impossible

@acNewUpdates that’s just perfect lol

@personauser93 i love how nintendo fans have such an annoying hero’s complex, like ok calm down nintendo isn’t holding you on gunpoint it’s just a game

@ritouf okay now that's pretty goddamn cool lol. I'm going to get me that ISO.

@super-nintendo
I know. And I'm saying the game is not there. I've been playing it since Monday

I still can't believe this is 60 dollars.

@NintendoPok When Nintendo disables your NNID with $300 USD of eShop purchases (which you continued to purchase, despite having CFW on your 3DS) on it because of some Miiverse posts, preventing you from accessing your own purchases, you bet!

Never again will I be suckered into buying anything on the eShop when Nintendo could suddenly choose to take away access to my purchases. If this ever happened to you, surely you would feel the same way.

Also, it is only "stealing" if Nintendo no longer possesses what I take.

@TalesOtaco Quick and dirty cash grabs FTW!

@Fulgor_Astral TOK is so upsetting that I will not even pirate it. That would be a waste of my time.

@ritouf It is worth $30 USD at most. It does not even come with a special booklet or CD like the Wii rerelease of SMAS did.

I tried the native Switch port of SM64 the other day, and the camera controls were great! Not to mention that the game is widescreen.

As for Sunshine, they should have made it compatible with the GameCube Controller Adapter.