Nintendo Switch 10.0.0 Firmware Update Supposedly "Adds Preliminary Support For A New Hardware Model"

Can't wait to see what they do next, they are the masters of devices.

Second screen so it plays DS games too

Maybe a redesign model like NDS Fat to NDS lite.

@stevep No, it can't be that. Because if it were, I would have to buy it, and I can't have three. Can I?

3DS support would be.
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Amazeballs.

Which will launch March 2021 along side BotW2. Mark my words!

@gcunit well it would also depend like a secondary controller like the wii u? like if this aloud it to connect through it but not be a switch itself.

Second display "of sorts"...controllers with screens or it can run 720p video to a TV and the device while undocked?

Well, well, well... extremely interesting!

And as usual, Nintendo leaves us scratching our heads.

Hm, an X1+ really isn’t that drastic an upgrade in the slightest. Perhaps they’ll also increase RAM and system storage to actually make it worthwhile. I upgraded to a PS4 Pro eventually and it’s kinda minimal upgrades but I got COD MW and an extra controller, which was probably worth more. The New 3DS was neat though, some pretty good improvements like the rubber nipple.

Nintendo can't even meet demand of the standard models with all that is going on right now (OG Switches are virtually sold out in Australia at the moment).

We can forget any hardware revisions until at least 2021.

I just want the Animal Crossing Switch.............................

If it's using the X1+, then it won't be much faster than the current Switch - if emulation comparison between the 2015 Shield TV and 2019 Shield TV Pro is anything to go by. It certainly won't be the upgrade that people like SuperMetalDave64 are fantasizing about.

@yuwarite Plus they won’t want too drastic a hardware split. The economy’s in full scale meltdown at the moment and £50 software will be a big ask as it is. Releasing a £350 console that splits the console base with Pro exclusives just doesn’t seem like a good idea at the minute.

this model should have at least 100 gigs of internal space this time

As long as they don't break compatibility with the current Switch (no "Switch Pro" exclusives, please!), I'm fine with it.

@Mountain_Man if the only reason a game comes to the switch is because of the pro model then that's a very real possibility

Secondary display?

Will they finally make wii u gamepads switch compatible?

Switch Pro is coming. Along with GTA V port. There is a reason why that game is still lurking in the shadows.

If this is true, and we're getting a second screen, then the Switch really is Wii U 2.0, which I'll be totally fine with if it means we'll get games that couldn't feasibly be played without the Gamepad... like.... I'm actually having trouble thinking of good examples, because my mind keeps jumping to Star Fox Zero.
Well, at the very least, it'd be nice to have Wind Waker/Twilight Princess HD and get to keep the map/inventory open during gameplay.
EDIT: Fatal Frame: Maiden of the Black Water. Not sure if that's a good one, but I'd like to find out.

@RPGamer
There's not really that many games that were only for new 3ds.

@KingBowser86 Yep, that's what I'm thinking. A handheld that can stream to the TV without a dock, giving you Wii U like functionality. I imagine a new model will have a 1080 display though.

With how Nintendo innovates when it comes to naming, it's safe to say that this third (Switch) hardware would not be called New Nintendo Switch nor Nintendo Switch Pro. They will use other names like Switch 1.5, Switch Enhanced, Switch V2 or Switch EX (Extended, whatever that means for new features. You know Nintendo. They innovate in a way that's difficult to predict 😅).

My only fear about a Pro model Switch is that Nintendo might sacrifice the consoles hybrid nature in exchange for a boost in power. If I can't take it with me in the go, what's the point?

@Spoony_Tech right? Been saying this. I have strong hunch that Zelda ain't coming without some kind of paid update or peripheral. The timing is just so right.

I figure 2021 for the Pro...

5 hardware models were found to have been supported by the Switch OS over the last 3 years, codenamed "Icosa", "Hoag", "Iowa", "Copper", and "Calcio".
> "Icosa" corresponds to the original Switch
> "Hoag" corresponds to the Switch Lite
> "Iowa" corresponds to the better battery-life Switch
> Support for Copper was removed some time ago when a hardware bug was found, but based on the datamines, it seems like it was going to be a TV-only device.
> Calcio is the interesting one as it first is first mentioned in one of the 9.0 updates, which indicates that it is or was in active development. Based on the datamines, Calcio will also be a TV-only device like Copper, but will be using the Mariko chip found in Hoag and Icosa. Calcio also doesn't support physical game cards, implying that it will be a digital-only device.

The "nx-abc..." label seems to correspond with the form factor of these hardware models. Three labels exist so far: "nx-abca2", "nx-abcb", and "nx-abcc".
> "nx_abca2" corresponds with the two hybrids (Icosa, Iowa)
> "nx-abcb" corresponds with the handheld (Hoag)
> "nx-abcc" corresponds with the TV-only models (Copper, Calcio)

The 10.0.0 update added support for a brand new label "nx-abcd", which implies a brand new form factor that may support a secondary display as stated in the article.

Didn't one of the initial "NX" patents show some computing power built into the dock? I'd expect a "Pro" model to not necessarily supercharge the handheld portion, but to add some combination of additional CPU, GPU, and RAM into the dock. Then those of us who already have a Switch wouldn't need to shell out for a full $350+ console, just buy the new expansion dock by itself.

First NX was the original code name for the Switch we have now and that latest would be upgraded Switch Pro/2.0HD model with a flip screen to use and play 2DS/3DS games again.

Can’t believe we’re finally getting the 4DS.

"Dual Switch" - The New DS.

Couldn't a VR Headset also be considered a "Secondary Display?"

@KayFiOS Another example with significant second screen functionality: ZombiU.

Second screen? So begins the wild speculation. This could range from an actual on board screen like the DS, a pad like the Wii U, a display added to the dock to give info on downloads/etc, a display for a TV-only model, support for an actual VR headset, and so on. Without anything more, and given Nintendos history of doing whatever weird thing pops into their heads, this could be anything (or also nothing and just misinterpreted).

@RPGamer There were only 7 games exclusive to the 'New' 3/2DS models.
14, if you want to count the SNES VC games.
Several other games were 'enhanced' on the 'New' model, but weren't exclusive to it.

A 2nd display? Would they really do a clamshell switch?!

I'd love to see the Switch be able to turn into a tablet the way the Wii U did, so you can use both at once in a single game. Its very handy for submenus, maps, etc... This is why, IMO, Mario Maker on the Wii U was better than on the Switch, Lego City as well, and even the Zelda reboots benefited from this. You could even play coop in COD on the Wii U, with one person on the TV and another on the tablet, both online.

My bet is its a 2nd screen via the Switch acting like the Wii U.

@stevep you misunderstand. As in secondary to the original models screen.

Assuming this rumour can be trusted:

There is a way to play second screen-dependent Wii U games, and DS games, with all of the Switch units already on the market...

Simply use a second Switch as a handheld, while the first is docked. They can sell the dual screen software without any new model required.

No, I don't think this makes sense either. But the technology (touchscreen, wireless play) is already integrated. Mario Party has already demonstrated "extended screen" play. Too crazy for Nintendo?

So... Switch Semi-Pro?

@mesome713 the secondary display thing make me think of being able to use a second screen or even console in the way we used the gamepad pro with games on WiiU.

It dimly reminds me of faint memories back in the day before Switch's name was known that Nintendo was having patents for something that seemed to imply at the time that their 'console' would have functioned by doing some kind of local cloud-like processing or something as if to have multiple units pooling their horsepower together for performance boost.

That is probably just my memory playing tricks on me mind you and it could have been a really different deal instead but that datamining now makes me wonder if that might be what it was about and if re: streaming additional displays on another Switch or hardware might not be what that was all about in the end.

A new device? And what Im supossed to do with my ACNH non transferable island???? Im stuck with this device until the end of times

I've been predicting the second screen thing for a while. Imagine using a Lite as your Wii U-style controller to an OG Switch for Wii U/3DS/DS games played on your TV?! Swish yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

@chocolate_supra My understanding is that the existing USB-C connection cannot accommodate the required data transfer. If anyone knows better, please enlighten us!

A pro version would be like x-1+ 8gbram or 12.

The switch now has 4GB lpddr4-ram. So that def. Needed an upgrade.

@nessisonett seriously what is it with you guys thinking an upgrade will cause pro exclusives? Both Sony and Xbox have demonstrated how to “properly” upgrade a console. They both play all of the same games no matter what system. It’s like PC, if people want to stick to low end hardware that’s their deal.. but don’t punish people who want an upgrade just because some Nintendo fans are crying over it. And honestly it’s been over 3 years since launch $300 USD price tag. That’s not much money at all for a new upgrade 3 years later when game stores give $200 USD credit towards trading for a new model.

@Crockin I hope not. Hasn’t every console had at least one major Zelda title? BOTW I think would be more Wii U’s than Switch’s

@HardcoreDaBoss It’s Nintendo, they’ve got previous. The Switch was outdated the minute it hit shelves, given the hybrid nature of the console. While some people will accept this means games will fall quite far away from the coming PS5 and XSeX, a lot of fans won’t be happy if this current trend of big-name ports to Switch ends given the power disparity. A middle ground would be having a mid-gen expansion with bigger, more powerful games that could possibly be PS5 ports. And who knows, the way the economy’s going, £350 could sound a whole lot worse in a year’s time than it does now.

Wii U's second screen was ultimately a failure and underused even by Nintendo itself. Don't think they are adding a second screen to the Switch. Plus, global economy after the coronavirus era will take time to heal so no new Nintendo Switch any time soon.

@KayFiOS Xenoblade Chronicles X was a decent example. You could easily manage characters and stuff as well as warp to different locations using the Wii U GamePad.

@GameOtaku Yeah, only four games were ever released that were exclusive to the New Nintendo 3DS, which makes perfect sense because who would want to limit sales of your game to a model that only a tiny fraction of the user base owns?

I wouldn't be surprised if the second screen thing is just a dev unit thing.

@Cosats Yeah, the Switch is basically what a lot of people thought they were getting when Nintendo first revealed the Wii U gamepad. Hardly anyone, including Nintendo themselves, made good use of the second screen. It was only useful in that the response to it likely inspired Nintendo to release an actual hybrid console.

I'm so intrigued by what they intend with a second display. That was never a bad idea for the Wii U, when utilized properly it had a lot of potential. Makes me wonder if they may restore features Wii U games had to the Switch ports or if features dropped from original Wii U plans might be restored, like being able to quick check and manage the map and inventory in BOTW without pausing the game.

I would love if they found a way for Wii U owners to connect their GamePad to the Switch as a secondary display. I'm sure that's not even possible, but man that would be awesome.

@westman98 Ah, then I think I get it. The idea is it will be a somewhat more powerful console only Switch, meant to appeal to new players and owners that already have a Switch alike. See, if you already own a Switch, they want you getting this console only version, because they'll be able to link up (all just speculation) and the Switch you have now can act like a Wii U Gamepad, while the New Switch is the main screen. Then they could push out updates for already released games to optionally have 2 screen output where applicable, maybe start by adding a patch to a game like Super Mario Maker 2 or something. They could even have an optional bundle of this new console only version with a Switch Lite if they were able to connect like this. I can see the possibilities for sure. The important thing though would be to not make 2 screen functionality a requirement for anything, just an optional method for comfort, easier use, multiplayer, etc.

@Incoherent1 Zelda games have kind of been staggered across generations in modern times. The GameCube got Wind Waker and Twilight Princess along with the Wii, which also got Skyward Sword. The Wii U didn't get a unique Zelda to start off with (but Wii backwards compatibility, the HD remasters, and the virtual console still leave it as the console that can play the most Zeldas, I think), but it got Breath of the Wild along with the Switch.

BotW 2 could be getting a simultaneous release with a Switch successor if this pattern holds, but who can guess?

You could point to Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask, which on paper this is closer to, but I wouldn't be surprised if this one takes longer. Times have changed, and these games are huge now.

@duffmmann
Calcio and nx_abcd are not the same thing.

Also, the datamined files indicate that all Switch models outside of the original 2017 launch Switch will be using the Mariko chip found in the Switch Lite and better battery-life model. There is no mention of a more powerful unrevealed processor.

@CoastersPaul
Unless the Switch 2 releases in 2021, BOTW2 will be a Switch exclusive.

This is not more exciting than folders.

@SwitchForce weren't you swearing up and down there wasn't going to be a pro switch late last year?

@Incoherent1 Out of roughly 18 million copies sold (around Jan. 2020), only 1.6 million of those were the Wii U version. I think it's safe to say the game is more associated with the Nintendo Switch for most people.

@chocolate_supra that's what I always hoped the dock would be instead of a pretty pointless plastic shell

Could it be that it will act like a Wii U? 🤔 Making it possible to have a screen on the switch and on the TV screen at the same time

@Cosats A second screen Switch would only work in a clamshell design (like a Switch DS) It would be perfect for porting more Wii U games and many 3DS games. However it would 100% break compatibility with the regular Switch. Or games would be needed to have a one screen mode and a two screen mode.

@Ralizah for most players, yeah, but the timing of the release necessitating a Switch port doesn't change the fact that the game was developed for the Wii U for five years or more. The Sheikah Slate was even envisioned to be the Wii U gamepad, so the player and Link would both be using it and looking at it for the map and inventory and such. This was omitted very late in development so the Wii U version wouldn't appear to have different features from the Switch version. It's very much a Wii U game that got a port, much like a significant number of successful Switch games. BotW 2 was even born out of what was initially DLC pack 3, according to the developers.
I think it's safe to say the Switch doesn't truly have its Zelda game yet. And I don't say this to argue, I say it optimistically to say the best is probably yet to come for this console generation.

@chocolate_supra Link's Awakening isn't a Switch game?

@Ralizah I don’t dispute most people associate it with Switch. Just that Nintendo usually does one major Zelda per console, and BOTW was Wii U’s (it was originally designed for that platform, and was the only “new” Zelda it got). It’d be uncharacteristic of Nintendo to not give Switch another Zelda (much like they did Skyward Sword for Wii even though it already had TP, which was also on GCN)

@sanderev I mean... Awakening is absolutely darling but it's not really what I mean by a Zelda game that defines a console. 😅 Plus I got it with my first GameBoy for my 9th birthday so it'll always be a GB title in my heart. LOL

Glad they aren't splitting the family by adding a more powerful device.

The lite is bad anough on its own with its non-detachable joycons and whatnot.

@CoastersPaul

Totally — very good point. I'm curious how much things will evolve from BOTW, which changed so many elements and introduced a ton of new concepts. Either way it'll be interesting to see!

In regards to performance, don’t nintendo run the current tegra at a speed quite abit lower than the tegra is capable of? They may be able to push the x1+ harder than the current models if they improve the cooling. IIRC the new model switch with the Mariko chip uses passive cooling, or at least cooling requirements are much lower for that chip?
Regarding the second screen, knowing nintendo they’d come up with something none of us would think about, something new and unique

@KingBowser86

That's exactly what I was thinking.

I’d be surprised of the handheld element was dropped. In fact of it was it would be a disastrous decision of epic proportions.

@stevep when the Switch was still the "NX"... I said "this thing needs to be DS compatable. The entire DS library is the greatest library ever!

"Supposedly", "of sorts", and the label is still "news". People remain hung up on the "Switch Pro" bigfoot even at the time when a pandemic-sized hole in supply routines leaves Nintendo taking extra effort to try and meet demand for the flagship model.

@Incoherent1 I think they’ve gone all in on BoTW2 and this will be considered the Switch’s mainline Zelda title. I can’t see them pushing through another title on Switch before it’s successor graces our sweaty palms.

Making the Switch compatable with the WiiU controller we all have lying around, unused, I bet.

@yuwarite If it were to be no more powerful what would be the point? Surely the reason to introduce a more powerful model is to help porters to make the ports easier. Nobody is expecting it to be as powerful as next gen or anything like but just that ports can continue as they are now. We fully expect and accept a loss in some performance and graphical areas but a pro needs to be an upgrade not just a re hash. Of course this is only a rumour but of it true it would be a very naive and potentially fatal mistake from Nintendo. It wouldn’t be the first time that the made such a mistake - great success with the Wii, could have built on it but went and committed and epic fail. If they manage to cock up the Switch’s future it will be madness. Commercial suicide.

The new system will launch with Metroid Prime 4. Prime 4 is being built around this more advanced architecture hence why it was started from scratch. Metroid prime 4 will also implement V.R. again which can only be achieved on this higher specification hardware. I started this rumour three years ago and i will see it through to fruition.

@YANDMAN Sounds great and you certainly have a great deal of optimism for this. I hope there will be a significant upgrade but it would be very Nintendo to let us down. Again.

I never played on any DS model they made, but knowing the environment the Switch is now; adding a second “clamshell” type screen makes me feel Nintendo is going backward instead of forward. The Switch would become the DS circa 2020. I truly hope this data mining proves to be something of a more progressive development. I don’t want the Switch to become nicknamed the “Port System.” Retro games is cool and all, but for my money I want to feel I am buying more contemporary games and a new system. I could care less for 4K. I would like 1080p as the PS slim looks good, and majority of broadcast cable I watch nightly is not 4K and I still think they both look crisp.

@jarvismp Just think about a new metroid game and how they could absolutely wow their audience. Think about the haptic feedback of the joy-cons and the fact that the system can be slotted into a V.R headset. Takinginto consideration that metroid prime is played from a first person perspective. It all adds up to a V.R game. They can make a Metroid prime 4 edition console to sell it with an even a Samus helmet themed V.R headset.

@YANDMAN Oh I am thinking about it and it would be awesome - I’m just a bit less optimistic that they will go down that route but hope you are spot on!

@chocolate_supra It's really not. The project's origin as a Wii U game doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. Plenty of games either start development on previous systems and then release as subsequent system exclusives or get cross-gen releases. Persona 5 released on both PS3 and PS4, yet almost everyone experienced it on the latter system. The Last Guardian originally started life as a PS3 game. Twilight Princess was originally planned as a GC release, and yet it was delayed, integrated motion controls and sold primarily on the Wii (and released on the platform first, at that).

In truth, it's a cross-gen release. But, if we're going to attribute it to one system on another, it makes even less sense to associate it primarily with Wii U than with Switch.

• It's more well-optimized on Switch
• It sold best on Switch
• Features were changed in the game due to the move to Switch
• And, frankly, having the ability to save anywhere and play in small chunks is more befitting hybrid hardware

It's likely that numerous early Switch games likely started life as Wii U projects before transitioning over to Switch exclusivity, too. Wouldn't make them Wii U games.

@chocolate_supra Or make the dock, No dock at all.
Make it a system that is generally able to work by itself and make the original Switch or Lite connect over wireless.
Now you have a more powerful home only Switch version and a second screen.

Before joy con drift was a thing I assumed the next Nintendo would come in the switch tablet dimensions. Then you would keep your dock and your joy cons and just replace the tablet to upgrade. But the joy cons suck so there goes that idea.

The best thing about it is that you can now map buttons, very useful for Xbox or PS4 players.

@chocolate_supra yes there was one that suggested the dock ran essentially another switch in crossfire configuration so they helped each other out, it would work like a 6 core Switch, not quite double the power but if the programming is good enough, still a marked improvement from base. It likely didn't go ahead due to complicating development too much and not being cost effective.

What would be nice is if they fixed the controller drift on all previous models. I've spent $300 on new Joycons alone.

What if it was a new (slightly more powerful) switch that can be paired with all existing switches to be used as the second screen.

Another hardware "revision" seems plausible for 2021. They have a handheld only, maybe this one is TV only? Sell a cheaper box that only outputs to the TV. Or possibly just another version of the regular Switch akin to the DS phat, DS Lite, DSi line. Or 3DS, 2DS, 3DSXL, New 3DS, New 3DSXL, 2DSXL or whatever the heck else they did with that.

There's not much reason for a Pro model at this point. Might as well release a different version for a small boost in sales while they work on the Switch successor to release in a few years. Have the new revision on shelves for about a year and then announce you're formally working on a successor. Add in that it will be backwards compatible and current sales wouldn't completely stop. That would buy a year or 2 of buildup for the release of the successor and boom you have a 6 year console cycle.

@KingBowser86 I thought the same. Most likely, it’ll be that

What most likely it will be, is a controller that has a screen integrated on it. That way, on TV and table top modes, you can have a single player experience like on Wii U, but also it can add the multiplayer experience the Wii U had with the Gamepad, but this time, on the go. Imagine that you’re on a bus and your friend has Smash Bros Ultimate. You want to play it that moment, so you pull tournaments controller with your screen, and your friend’s Switch will transmit the data to that secondary screen, and you two will bro able to play the same game from the same console, with separate screens.

The Switch will integrate with Lego Mario. The "second screen" is the LCD in Lego Mario's face.

I'm pretty sure "new hardware model" in this context doesn't mean "updated hardware with exciting new features", and, instead means "new hardware model made with components available from more places than China without being dependent on their supply chain delays exclusively."

we dont need our favourite cartoon games in 4K or ported games in 4K but still lesser than PS4 and XB1

give us 1080p at 60fps solid on TV
and 900p at 60fps solid handheld

if the new model promised that and:

• no frame rate drops
• no dynamic resolution drops
• a new joy-con model
• no bezel display
• double the RAM
• 128gb storage
• works with older docks

then i bet lots of people would buy their 2nd or 3rd copies of the console tbh

@tzahn I do recall a number of early Nintendo surveys asking something along the lines of, "How do you play the Switch most often? Docked/Undocked," so, I'm wondering if a lot of those came back Docked such that they figure there's room for a 'console' model. This model could perhaps stream the same video to up to 4 other Switch/Lites, take care of the internal storage issue, make the appropriate room for hotly-requested streaming apps and such, and add Wii U-like capability. This eliminates the need to trade-in or get rid of one's current Switch hardware (a decision with which I'm sure the retailers would be happy).

@NEStalgia Come off it, why the hell are you using logic around these parts? This is strictly for Dear Santa lists and taking a dump on the existing model.

My guess is some kind of way to bring back Wii U's TV + Gamepad gameplay like the asymmetrical nature of Nintendo Land.

@RPGamer
Metroid: Samus Returns, Code Name STEAM, Smash Bros 3DS, Hyrule Warriors.

I think based on Nintendo's past moves and what we know currently it is one of these:
1) An add on or accessory to expand the lifespan of the Switch utilizing the second screen technology
2) A way to improve hand off/screen mapping when using multiple Switch units at one time
3) A Wii U type of setup where the Switch becomes an added screen when docked.

Doesn't the updated Switch already run the Tegra X1+? I know it still runs it at the stock clock speeds, using the smaller manufacture process to improve portable mode battery life rather than all out performance.

In that case, there would be little incentive for a Switch Pro/Plus/etc. to use the same X1+ for improved performance at the cost of portable mode battery life... unless said console is a TV mode only console (akin to Switch Lite's portable mode only).

@westman98 nice breakdown. IMO, like kingbowser & oorwullie say above, the upgrade will be to the dock allowing dual screen play like the Wii U, that will be the nx-abcc. Then to keep things portable they'll release a new dual screen switch and that will be nx-abcd

@Goat_FromBOTW Yeah, but Nintendo is 100 times better. Sony and Microsoft develop like one game a year. It's very pathetic. Nintendo develops like 7 amazing games a year, they are genius.

@jarvismp What the hell are you going on about? When did Nintendo "let us down" to begin with?

@BlueOcean man I've gotten the A and B buttons mixed up so many times whenever I switch (heh) between the Switch and Xbox.

@tzahn there's plenty of reason for a Pro model, Nick more so than the Lite model.

i feel like vr would be the only effective use for a second screen. a wii u type gamepad for a new switch model would be incredibly niche and i dont see people paying more to look down at their controller when it didn't work for the wii u sales

@WiltonRoots what are you talking about? Comments like yours are useless

Why don't you call him what he is, an illegal hacker. Quit giving like this some cutesy little name, it doesnt take away from the fact that what he's doing is completely illegal. God I hate people like you, people who think doing this stuff is okay just to get new info. Look at what happened with the pokemon leakers, they're gonna be going to jail, and I hope every hacker like this ends up going to prison as well.

@MBII Hahahaha wow you're tense. Breathe son....breathe. Games. Entertainment. Fun. Hobby. Leisure pursuit etc. I actually liked your comment because it made me laugh so much!

I don't seem to remember putting an @ towards you, I was talking to @NEStalgia - who I've had a friendly back and forth with for years around here. But hey, feel free to jump in and freak out whenever you want.

Stop with the rumours and the "supposedly", please. Be a serious page. You keep disappointing me.

@RPGamer
Uh i think there were 3 or 4 exclusives..
Mario maker, xenoblade and something else maybe)

It is going to be a Nintendo Switch that isn't a handheld, but will allow remote play to cast games to the handheld Nintendo Switches.

@MBII Erm.... Wii great then let us down with Wii U. That’s a start.

No-portable screenless box with harddisk please, Nintendo!!!
If you can release an undockable Switch, you can do this too!

Since we are all throwing out ideas into the campfire...maybe it will be for a new dock that will upscale the game like the PS4 to a 4k level of viewing on your TV? At current the dock is only a "middle man" for the HDMI cable to the TV with simultaneous charging.

Updated today to 10.0.0 and now my 512GB SDcard won’t work. Switch say it can’t be read. That’s just fricking great 👍

@Diddy64 Switch U 😂

@nessisonett nah a drastic upgrade never happens because it could render the previous systems obsolete for the newer games even if they can play them because new games would go off of the specs of the new system more. This is why we have generations.

It will be nothing u til Nintendo announces it period. There's always some rumor.

@nintendork64 Or Switch Up 😂

@Dirty0814 Playstation 4 Pro says otherwise.

@DarkLloyd Sure if you want the retail price to be $50 more than 32GB. Or, you could buy a 256GB SD card for $40ish.

@StevenG The PS4 pro was not a drastic upgrade over the PS4. The Xbox one x was more of a drastic upgrade and it still wasn't a drastic upgrade. The had to cap how much it was upgraded because of the games being made being able to be compatible with the older system. That alone proves my point. No system takes a huge dramatic upgrade because at that point it would be a next gen system as the older system wouldn't be able to process it the same.

@Dirty0814 Both the Pro and One X were big pretty big upgrades. There are very obvious differences side by side.

Being able process the same is just a function of being able to run the same code. It would be easy enough for the switch to have low res mode and high res mode in games, depending on the device.

@nessisonett the rubber nipple which was only used in like 4 games. The extra power was only put to work in a handful of games as well because games were not scalable. What the New 3DS had going for it was the much better, 'backwards compatible' 3D feature. I fear similar issues with a Switch Pro that adds completely new features but doesn't add any processing power. Most players will have old Switches with only one screen so no developers will create games that utilize the new feature. The whole console will also be much closer to it's end of support date. The Pro must add more processing power to increase fps and resolutions or it will not be a success.

@Diddy64 Switch U