Atlus Is Releasing Persona 5 Scramble In Japan Next February

Admit it, it looks much better than you thought it would since everyone hates musou games.

60 fps and good graphics. Nice!
Ohh, it's the PS4 version..

I still think it would be nice to have the real Persona 5 game for the Switch.

Will this be Switch exclusive? Hopefully it will to serve Sony right for keeping P5 exclusive. It’s such a shame that Joker was put in Smash and is wasting a slot since his game isn’t even on Switch.

I still remember the days when we though the "S" on P5S will stand for Switch.

if they're keeping the dating sim elements i'm totally in(when it goes on sale, became a habit)! surprised to see some 2d platforming in there, also how much you seem to be able to walk in the town.

Meh, I'm not even gonna bother. If this game was the reason Joker got ad to Super Smash Bros. Ultimate then it's a missopportunity. Releasing this will make Switch owners think Joker belongs on a Persona spinoff when he really came from the main game.

Give me a real Persona game on Switch. I'm not buying a Musou spin off until that happens.

@LaytonPuzzle27 I rather have Persona 4 Golden on the Switch.

Could care less about Persona 5. Didn't like it at all. Persona 4 had a great story and excellent cast.

Well it looks better than I anticipated it to be but it's still a warriors game and not the actual thing so I couldn't care less.

Don't forget Persona Q2: New Cinema Labyrinth for 3DS. With Scramble this marks Joker's third appearance on Nintendo. @retro_player_22

@LaytonPuzzle27 True even though this looks great I still believe it would be great to have the original game on Switch as well.

@Juanblue85 True but I was talking about just Switch owners. 3DS owners who migrate to Switch from that platform may kinda know him from the Persona Q series but newer Switch owners will likely think this spinoff is the real deal introduction of him.

I'm more excited for Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE: Encore myself. But this is great for those who like this game.

@retro_player_22 - I think that's short-changing switch owners a bit. I have a switch, and have never played Persona 5, yet I know enough to know that's where Joker came from. I mean, it's not like the game was a niche title with only a small following, this was a game that made multiple best of 2017 lists, so anyone even mildly interested in games should at least be able to recognise him as "that guy from Persona 5".

While the treasure box edition looks rad, the game is still a letdown to me, simply because it is not Persona 5

Ah, so gutted when they reveiled this game.

I still have hope that all Persona games come to Switch.

an other overrated game. but each his own... I tried to like it but it just doesn't work for me. Great for fans of course

@BarefootBowser Sure, Switch does have an amazing library and is a great console. That's why, when given a choice, I am buying games for this platform. Persona 5, however, has been in my sights for a long time and I'd really love to play it. Now, since I am a father of two young children I have very limited gaming time (mostly on commute and around 1h in the evenings), so I'm holding off Persona 5 for PS4 hoping it will come to Switch eventually, since it is a long game, it'd take me a year to finish it on PS4 at home. Now, i'm just using my ability to voice my discontent with the situation that it is PS exclusive (i dont cry because of that, I continue my life happily as I have so far) hoping that maybe it does reach a publisher eventually and they reconsider making a port. If no one ever mentions it then it is less likely to happen

@Heavyarms55

Seconded.

Because of the way they announced this originally (trolling people into believing Persona 5 was coming to Switch with Persona 5 S), I wanted this game to look really bad. Unfortunately, it looks really good fun. And, I know I will buy it. Damn.

Why not just publish Persona 5 for the Switch?

@gloom Persona 5 Scramble will be on PS4 and Switch so no, it is not an exclusive.

Also whyo do you feel Joker is a wasted slot on Smash Ultimate. He is a great character from a great game (my opinion ofc) and I think he “deserved” his spot on the list, well maybe I’m baised, because I like him. Also Sakurai (no I do not worship him) was/ is a fan of the Persona series so it does seem THAT rare that Joker made it in Smash Ultimate.

Remember that Smash is a video game celebration with over hundreds of game franchises in it.

Maybe I am overthinking it but it is starting to annoy me that people call some characters in Smash as a stupid pick even after all the other 82+ characters.

@benj2687 they weren't trolling anyone, people were trolling themselves by speculating and hyping up rumors.

Not big on Musou games in general, but Hyrule Warriors was fun for a while, and I also spend a fair bit of time on FE:Warriors. It's kind of relaxing really.

Still, I don't know if I want or need multiple Musou games on my Switch. I think FE:W is quite enough in that regard.

P5 would need something to really make it stand out, besides the P5-style and music, which I certainly love and appreciate. In other words, I'll need to know more before I can decide on whether I even care.

PS: It's a shame that we seemingly are not making any progress towards 'global releases' for games like these anymore.

@Jeronan Interesting, for me it was the opposite. I liked P5 quite a bit more than Golden, especially due to the Dungeons, which were more compelling experiences to me, given their 'handcrafted' nature.
Plus, the whole overarching story and theme of the "Phantom Thiefs" gelled, in my view, better with the gameplay. In P4G it always felt like two seperate parts of a single game. The game told me, they were one and the same, story and dungeoncrawling, but it never quite came across that way.
Not a huge concern at the time (just like random Dungeon designs), but in hindsight, it was an issue.

As for characters and tone, I even liked P3 better than P4. But that is certainly rather subjective. P4 just had a tone, that never seemed quite consistent with me through-out. I also just did not end up liking neither Rise nor Teddie. Teddie felt like a poor, dunno, Danganronpa attempt at times.

Chie was great though

P4G on the Vita was still a very good game though, but I do feel it was kinda overhyped. Probably because so many people missed out on the Persona train before that, and only came on board with P4/(G). Kinda like Awakening, not a bad game by any means, but not the stand-out FE game everyone makes it out to be. It just happens to have achieved mainstream success, being the right game, at the right time in the right place, and thus gets credited beyond it's due.
In almost all regards, Path of Radiance was a superior tactical RPG, with a more mature story and a more compelling set of characters and conflicts at its heart. Whether it was "worse" because it lacked the same kind of "social sim"/"waifu"/"baby-character-creation" aspect is debateable, but in all those other regrads ...

@Heavyarms55 same here pal...

I’m only gonna play this if the chad named yu is playable! (Also chie, marie, yosuke, kanji, yukiko, rise, naoto and teddie, adachi, dojima and maybe even nanako!)

Played the "real one" on PS4. Loved it. Bit disappointed this is just a spinoff, but having heard the soundtrack in the trailer, I'm sold.

What’s the point of releasing this on the Switch? What’s the point of releasing a “sequel spin off musou” game to a platform that doesn’t even have the original game to begin with? Where the hell is SMTV already?!? Thanks for nothing Atlus....

I'll admit, my interest in this was somewhat light until recently. Seeing more footage, though, it seems like it's going to be a full on Persona game with cutscenes, social events, free roaming, etc. and replace the turn-based dungeon exploration with musou-style battles, which just sounds fantastic.

Another reskined misou, and still no news on SMTV.

We don't even have P5 on switch but they want us to buy the spinoff sequel? How does that work exactly? Not all of us own multiple consoles to be invested in the O5 story so most of us are going to be quite lost as to what the heck is going on with palaces and phantom thieves. So what if it gives you a brief rundown of the basic plot, P5 spanned 100s of hours with lots of character interaction and development. It's like jumping straight to the final movie of a series.

@gloom Saying Joker is wasting a spot is ignorant beyond belief; he;s the current face of one of the biggest JRPG's currently on the market, and damming Sony for having an exclusive game is like Damming Nintendo for not letting Sony have Astral Chain.

Also to answer your question, P5 Strikers will be on both the PS4 and Switch, and as much I adore my Switch; the PS4 will always be my go to console for the Warriors Games not named Hyrule Warriors.

For the people asking about SMTV, it should be noted that when the game was first shown off at the Switch event in 2017, that was when development had just begun, like they were still moving in the new office chairs and stuff.

Persona 5 took around 5 years to create, originally being set to release in 2015 before getting delayed all the way to 2017. Assuming SMT5 is as big, if not bigger than P5, then it's safe to say we're looking at it being a 2021-2022 game.

@Ralizah
Ya this game is looking really good. It looks just like Persona 5 to the point I almost would've thought it was, if I didn't know better.

I'm really surprised how great this game looks.

@Rika_Yoshitake It looks like so much more effort was put into it as opposed to hyrule warriors, and its story is actually part of the series as well.

@LaytonPuzzle27 i'd rather have that Shin Megami Tensei game they've been baiting us with since the release of the Switch. I know development can be slow for many reasons, but it has been almost 3 years. It is reaching vaporware levels. We've seen nothing except those few trailers without any gameplay whatsoever.
Come on Atlus, show us something good please.

If it will perform well on Switch, I’ll get it on Nintendo’s console. I’m a bit concerned, since the same development team also brought Dragon Quest Heroes I and II on Switch. And both games were a technical mess, with framerates constantly reaching the sub 20ies.

https://youtu.be/cbRA1mCbrac

@gloom You do understand that Sakurai really never cares about a character's history with Nintendo specifically when factoring in their chances of him including said character in Smash, right?

He said so himself SPECIFICALLY when talking about Joker and his reveal at last year's Game Awards

He's not a wasted slot by any means. His game was the one that made one of the most critically lauded RPG series of all time finally hit mainstream popularity. He is iconic by modern JRPG standards and deserves to be in Ultimate more than you think.

You're just sad/too stubborn to buy a PlayStation console to play his game

I do wish Atlus was more lienient on multiplats but they're Atlus so they're pretty hard to convince

When I finished 4, I was STARVING for more story and to see the characters again in more games. When I finished 5 I was like "Ok, I'm good"

@QueenKittenWrite
I wouldn't say a wasted spot but definitely an odd pick. If they opted for say Jack Frost you know the face of Atlus and is in both SMT and Persona it would've worked better rather than suggesting we would be getting the game from which he was from.

@Ralizah I agree. I’m looking forward to this game now I’ve seen a bit more

@LaytonPuzzle27 probably wont happen. Atlus is loyal to Sony and just because joker is in smash doesnt mean it will happen. I recommend buying a used ps3 and persona 5. It didnt even cost me 60 dollars and I have to say, persona 5 is amazing.

@gloom enough with the bashing sony. Fanboying is just stupid. Everyone expects microsoft and sony to hand over their ip's to ninte do but dont want nintendo to hand over theirs. Just accept the fact that consoles have exclusives. I recommend buying a used ps3 and persona 5 because you can do that for less than 60 dollars. You can also get persona 4 too

@Heavyarms55 just buy a used ps3 and persona 5 it will cost you less than 60 bucks because Sony wants to keep persona an exclusive so it's not happening anytime soon

If it's going to be an rpg game like the first persona 5 then I'm in, other than that count me out.

I have to confess I just don't dig JRPGs so much, but I would LOVE to have a new Persona fighting game!

@Jeronan I loved persona 5 but golden would be awesome on the switch

@BarefootBowser dude you are so optimistic compared to most fans. Keep it up!

@GameOtaku then dont play it simple as that lol

@Itachi2099 If this game was going straight to PS4 with no Switch announcement, a lot of Nintendo fans would be very upset. Atlus did at least release this game to Nintendo. A mainline Persona game has yet to hit another console outside of PlayStation. Persona 6 could very well end up on Switch. Let's just enjoy what we have at the moment. SMTV will be a blast I'm sure of it!

This game has zero appeal to anyone who hasn’t played Persona 5, which is of course unavailable on Switch.

It’s going to tank on Switch, and I hope Sega fires someone for such incompetence.

@BlueBlur101 it was P4 which took the series to the next level globally. Naoto, Teddie or Yu would have been far more popular choices.

@Coochie_Kong I've got the game on PS4. But you see, I can't take my PS4 with me.

P5 Royal has to land on Switch, it just has to. I have PS4 to play it on, heck, even an unopened (!) special edition of P5, which i got at launch and never played because backlog of games and life. And yet, I would still buy and play it on Switch because that is my preferred way of playing games these days.

@Coochie_Kong
That's a dumb thing to say. Obviously if it doesn't sell they will drop switch support.

If anyone doesn't see this as trolling on Atlus's part you're blind. Persona 3 and 4 had extended portable games (P3P and 4 Golden). If the vita had done better P5 Royal obviously would have been on that. So with that history in mind and Joker showing up as a smash character all but confirmed 5S was P5 for switch (maybe with Nintendo exclusive things like Bowser and Mario as Personas).

@GameOtaku Do you realize how dumb that sounds? Just because hes in smash doesnt mean persona deserves to be on switch. Anta baka

@VoodooTrumpet Sega? Atlus

@Coochie_Kong Atlus is owned by Sega

Atlus never, not once, trolled Switch owners or suggested that they were getting Persona 5.

They teased a Persona 5 S and we're getting... Persona 5 S. Atlus doesn't release mainline Persona games on non-Playstation consoles, and the profound entitlement mentality of Switch owners isn't going to change that.

@VoodooTrumpet Mever new my bad

@Ralizah thank you someone gets it. It really is an entitlement mentality that I hate. Same deal with mother 3. I swear ppl only want mother 3 because, "we want that, Japan got it what about me waaa!" If people really cared about persona then why didnt they want it be4 joker came to smash? Also just buy a ps3 and persona 5, I did that and it cost me less than 60 bucks and I bought persona 4. Also if ppl wanna play mother 3 play the fan translation

@gloom What about Microsoft with Banjo, he's a character in smash but his games have never been on a Nintendo console since the n64.

The main Persona series has been on Sony consoles since the PS1, while Nintendo gets the spinoffs, if you are to lose to anger, blame Atlus, not Sony.

@Coochie_Kong NO PIRACY IS BAAAD AND IT'S SOMETHING ONLY PLAYSTATION FANS DO!!!

According to Nintendo fans.

@Big-Pepsi lol are you joking or no lol

Vote with your wallets. If you are upset 5 isn't coming to Switch, don't buy Persona Warriors.

I really enjoy the Warriors games, but I have no interest in this whatsoever since I've never played Persona 5. My girlfriend has a Chadstation 4, but who the heck wants to play that?

@QueenKittenWrite Astral Chain was fully funded by Nintendo. The game wouldn't exist without Nintendo. Sony never said they funded Persona 5, they just bought exclusives rights for the sake of limiting its exposure. Sony is a control freak megacorp who constantly does that. They bought so much exclusives for the dead Vita it basically detroyed the japanese industry.

@Coochie_Kong I wish, just like you I told people to get a fan translation of the snes version of the trials of mana series and they erupted on me as soon as I said that on a youtube video I was watching to learn how to downgrade my Vitas firmware so i can get run better emulators. There was this one particular ignorant guy who said "I don't want to participate in piracy like certain PS players" and that's bs cause 9/10 times people who use a PlayStation to pirate stuff either hate Sony or want to actually emulate old titles.

Hacking and pirating on a console to play old classics that are either super expensive or aren't being made anymore apparently is the worst crime ever to the fans of the big N.

@Coochie_Kong
Then the character does not need to be on a system he has no connection to. As I mentioned Jack Frost would've worked better since there's no expectation but for this whole campaign just to announce a spin off sequel that's not even exclusive to switch is bonkers.

@GameOtaku What about Snake? See smash is an exception because it is more of a joining of Video Game history. How about Banjo. He was on the N64 so according to your logic, we deserve banjo on switch. Lol

@Ralizah
Had they come out from the start and said it was a spinoff game that would be one thing. Instead the anticipation builds for P5 on the switch and they see it happening but do nothing. So it finally drops and the reception is very bad.

@Big-Pepsi I know right man! I've homebrewed my wii and 3ds just to emulate old games because they have no recent versions or are super expensive. People call it a crime but last time I checked nintendo doesnt have virtual console on switch. If they did I would gladly buy those games. Keep doing what you do man no ones stopping you. I never new their was a translated version. Should I get the new version coming soon or play the translation?

@Coochie_Kong
Snake appears in the nes and famicom he even had an exclusive game Snakes Revenge in nes as well as twin snakes on GameCube so it's hobbit that a big of a surprise. Banjo was extremely popular on N64 so they were paying homage to him especially since Microsoft and Nintendo are buddy buddy these days. SMT was on famicom and the last few have been on Nintendo as well so a character from the franchise is welcome however the timing of joker was all bad.

no it's not a collection of Game history . It's a collection of characters that have appeared on Nintendo.

@GameOtaku and joker was on the 3ds. What does it matter man your logic makes no sense. Are we getting a metal gear or banjo game on the switch now? No.

@GameOtaku Again, Atlus never said the original Persona 5 was coming to Switch. It's not Atlus' job to actively combat rampant rumor-mongering and entitlement mentalities in the Nintendo fan community.

If some Switch owners didn't let themselves get strung along by people who spread misinformation, this sort of thing wouldn't keep happening. Instead, people keep getting disappointed because they allow bad actors to build up their expectations for something that's not happening.

Some guy on Twitter will talk about Metroid Prime Trilogy for Switch coming in the next Nintendo Direct without a shred of evidence, and then, when the Direct comes and it's full of interesting games and cool reveals, some people will still act disappointed because the baseless rumor they worked themselves up into a lather over turned out to be baseless.

We seem to go through this nonsense every few months.

@GameOtaku then what about terry? Neo geo games haven't been on nintendo other than virtual console and arcade archives which doesnt really count.

@Ralizah even you are dealing with this butt hurt joker. Lol

@GameOtaku atlus never promised anything.

@Coochie_Kong
Snk has a long history of games being on Nintendo and Terry is the poster boy of SNK. If I remember right there was a Fatal Fury game on snes as well.

@Alucard83 Just because you don’t like a game that many other people did doesn’t mean that it’s “overrated.”

I like the style of game so i'll probably check this out at some point. However I wish we were also getting Persona 5 Royal i'd be double dipping on the original for it on switch. I'm still unsure about double dipping for Royal on PS4 at the moment.

@Ralizah hey who is your pfp it looks familiar

@GameOtaku Don't forget that, besides P5S, Persona Q2 is also a thing, and it prominently features the P5 cast.

@Coochie_Kong Junko Enoshima from the Danganronpa series.

@Ralizah that's where I saw it I k we it looked familiar

@Coochie_Kong While I like the fan translation, some madlad extracted the rom from the Switch version and got it to play on an SNES from what i've heard, but from what I've seen they're both pretty well translated so it's either or, though in the official one, abbreviated words have a full name and some towns and characters names have been changed I think.

@Big-Pepsi I might get the official one. Sounds fun. Sorry people give you sh*t. Happy gaming

@Ralizah That is the annoying thing about these kinds of rumors.
If the rumor turns out to be true: Surprise ruined!
If the rumor does not turn out to be true: Massive dissapointment!

No matter how it turns out, taking such rumors seriously doesn't get us anywhere...

Also, can we stop this whole "... needs to happen, or else..." nonsense?
It is seriously annoying to see people, again and again and again, behave like they are entitled to something even though they are not.
Can't we just go back to enjoying games, simply because they are good? P5S might be a perfectly good game even without P5.

Okay, fine, I’ll buy this. Still not happy about the lack of a Switch version of P5, but this does look really good.

@YessMasster Replying to agree. I'm also a father of young kids (3yo twins), and getting time to play on a console attached to a TV is nearly impossible around here. The Switch has been fantastic for me, because I can sneak in game time where I can, and I can drop it into a dock and play on a TV on the rare occasion I can find the time to do that.

The result for me is that, if it isn't on Switch, I'm just not playing it. I don't have time. Getting through a huge RPG on the XB1 or PS4 (both of which I own) is impossible for me right now.

So I, too, am hoping for Persona 5 on the Switch just so I have a chance to actually play through it. Hoping for the Trails of Cold Steel series to come over as well. Fingers crossed. But I've got plenty of other stuff to play too.

I'll pick this up just to support Atlus.

@Coochie_Kong I have Fatal Fury 2 for SNES. It was the only fighting game I had as a kid (if we don't count Smash as a fighting game).

@GameOtaku this game isn't for people that arent already fans. This game takes place after P5 and that trailer specifically shows the end of P5. If youre a Persona fan you already have a PS3 or 4. This game isn't designed to get new fans.

@LaytonPuzzle27 not going to happen. Grab a PS4 at black Friday.

@gloom. The video shown is the PS4 version.

Most of us wouldn't let a wildfire burn out of control. A simple statement detailing what p5s was not would've went a long way. Something like "we currently have no plans to bring P5 to switch. P5S is a brand new adventure set in the world of p5 and will share more details in the future."

question is it worth geting.

@Ralizah Is this a re-telling of the actual P5 or is this a completely stand-alone title? I.E. is it ok to play this before P5, or if playing both is it either-or, or is it P5 first?

Since I'm still waiting for that darned "remaster" of P5....

@NEStalgia Sequel that takes place after P5. The real question is how much familiarity with the events of P5 it'll assume. It could very easily be a completely independent story featuring the same characters.

Waiting for P5 Royal, huh?

@Ralizah
You'd obviously have more fun and more understanding of the nonsense going on having played P5 than someone taking on this world for the first time. Yeah you could watch Avengers Endgame without knowing anything at all about it but if you're fully invested in the series you have more ration when something happens whether good or bad. I've played 3 and 4 but I'm not vested hardly at all in 5 it's not like Zelda or Mario which with few exceptions are self contained stories.

@GameOtaku I mean, obviously it's ideal to have some familiarity with the characters, but that doesn't mean the game necessarily presupposes a lot of knowledge from the base game. The Witcher 3 and Majora's Mask are both direct sequels which are perfectly appreciable on their own as well.

Of course, it could also be a Mass Effect 3 situation where it just feels like the Nintendo fans got the last third of a massive, on-going story.

We'll see.

@Ralizah Still sounds like P5 ought to be played first. Oh well.

Yep, I have a digital and a TYH edition P5...and at this point I might as well not play it until I have the actual complete game with Royal... sigh...

I’m very happy with this article, NintendoLife. I got wind of this news last night and could not tell what the heck it was... like a revamped Persona 5 game or... a definitive edition.. or like a second kind of Shin Megani Tensei 4 with two parts... but I see it’s a Warriors style game. Kinda intrigued but I also wish we’d get the OG Persona 5 still!

@NEStalgia P5 is a complete game, though. And I doubt P5S will presume knowledge of P5R-exclusive content.

If I were you, I'd just play the one I already own.

@Ralizah Well, P5S may not assume knowledge of P5, but I'd fear P5S would then spoil knowledge you learn in P5. It would be like playing P4 Dancing All Night and meeting Teddie there, and THEN playing P4G. The whole thread would be ruined. That would be unbearable.

I dunno, it's like DQXI. Why play the PS4 one I already owned when the complete one was coming to Switch? If I play P5 now, I'll just wish I waited for P5R with the "rest" of it.

@NEStalgia
Same thing happened to me I'd only gotten maybe a quarter of the way into P4 when I picked up Arena Ultimax and it spoiled everything and it was supposed to be a spin off! So with that I never felt the need to finish it.

@GameOtaku dude stop whining you entitled child. You're just mad because you cant enjoy something because you haven't played p5

@GameOtaku then dont bother to play p5 or complain about it! Hell you didnt even finish p4

@GameOtaku Yeah, Atlus really doesn't seem to avoid spoilers for their numbered games in their spinoffs. Especially if this is a "sequel" it doesn't sound wise to play for someone intending to still play P5 at all.

@Coochie_Kong
There was no need once I had been spoiled on the ending it took all the fun out of it. That's why it's a dumb decision to not release the original game when you are getting a spoiler ridden sequel. I could go back at any time and play it if I wanted on my vita though or find the ps2 original! I did complete 3 though.

@Coochie_Kong
Obviously you do. Atlus stands to make more money off the franchise by releasing a switch port, they stand to make more with the sequel spinoff. It's a win win!

@NEStalgia You definitely wouldn't want to play P5S first if you care about main game spoilers. Even the Persona Q games spoil stuff from previous games, and those are incredibly disconnected spinoffs.

With that said, I don't really see spoilers being an issue.
Either:
A) A person is unwilling to play P5 unless it comes to the Switch.
or
B) A person is willing to buy a PS3/PS4 on the cheap to play it.

If we assume A, then spoilers don't matter, because they'll never play it anyway. And if we assume B, then there's nothing stopping people from shelling out $100 and grabbing a used PS3 alongside a copy of Persona 5.

@Ralizah
Issue is with the 1st who want to buy the game but want to be invested in the story so far without unnecessary expenses like buying a system just for the sake of one game.

@GameOtaku Gaming is an unnecessary expense in general, and not every system will get every game. Such people will shell out for a cheap system or will just have to pass on the game, just like those PS gamers who will inevitably be jelly about SMT V being Switch-exclusive.

Or they can watch it on YouTube. There are entire playlists of no commentary playthroughs of this game. Not as fun as playing it yourself, obviously, but it'll allow you to fully acquaint yourself with the characters and plot leading into P5S.

There are a multitude of options that will result in an overall happier life than angrily expecting a port that's extremely unlikely to happen.

@Ralizah
What are you talking about ? As it looks right now every game seems to be coming to switch.

@GameOtaku dude I'm in high school and have to work for everything I want and no parents or family give me money. I easily purchased peraona 5, 4 and a ps3 all for less than 60 bucks. It's not an unnecessary expense. Tbh nintendo consoles are the most expensive to have because first party games never go on sale so an unnecessary expense is not what it is

@Ralizah Well in the case of others, yes, In my case it's about waiting for P5R despite already owning the PS4 and 2 copies of P5 before playing P5S on any platform. (I'd consider S for PS4 just to keep it all on PS, instead of half Switch half PS. I already half wish I played Ys VIII on PS4 just so the series doesn't get split between two platforms.)

@NEStalgia Well, luckily for you, P5R is likely releasing months before P5S. I doubt we'll see a Western release of P5S before Q3 or Q4, whereas P5R is probably coming in April.

Did you get Ys VIII digitally? Just sell your Switch copy and get it on sale for the PS4. It's worth the change purely to have a version that doesn't turn into a slideshow when it gets to Dana's dungeons.

@GameOtaku Lots of games, but Atlus is seemingly immune to the public pressure campaigns that other developers buckle to.

@Ralizah That's good news indeed! Though if it's in April I probably won't start P5 until NEXT Oct/Nov as April/May is when I typically switch to all-switch for portability. So this is a 2020/2021 series for me with this news. It'll give me something to do while the early adopters are screaming about PS5

Yeah I have it physically on Switch. I might just get it on PS4 as well just because it's one of my favorite games at this point.

Atlus is owned by Sega. Don't confuse tone-deafness with immunity from pressure.

@Coochie_Kong
I'm out of HS (have been for 14 years) and work for a living as well but shelling out a lot of money on a console for just one game! Heck I have PS3 but haven't played it honestly in 3 years and I've owned it at least 6! Vita, 3ds and switch have been my go to gaming options since playing in front of a tv is not really viable as playing portably is. Atlus made the mistake and didn't clarify anything and went on as if nothing happened.

@GameOtaku and do they need to clarify? Sounds lile some people are just idiots

@Coochie_Kong
As I've said a little clarity as to what the product was intended would be solved all of this. They could've said 5S was not a port of 5 for switch but something entirely new. See how easy but yet mysterious that could've been? Acknowledge the suggestion for a port while disarming any false hopes.

@GameOtaku In fairness to Atlus, they were very very very explicitly clear when P5 launched that P5 would be on Playstation only.

It was the fans here and elsewhere that started the P5 for Switch hope long before Joker was even in Smash. When Joker was announced many here and elsewhere thought that meant P5 was coming, based on assumptions rather than evidence. In fact it meant that a new game in which Joker is in is coming to Switch.

But Atlus was always clear. They said P5 was on PS. The did not say P5 was on Switch. They said P5 was only on PS. So far reality and their statements match perfectly.

The only difference is FANS started talking about P5 on Switch even after the company said it won't happen.

@GameOtaku
Wow, you own a PS3? Never would have guessed with you whining about being unable to play P5.
Sure, I was disappointed when P5 wasn't announced for Switch, but any normal person would MOVE ON.) I ended up playing 3-5 on my new systems I aquired for cheap and am curently on Q2. Sorry man, having a system to be able to play P5 and complaining about portability screams entitled. I know some people don't have the luxury of playing in front of a big screen, but you seem to not have those problems.

@Ralizah the problem with those A and B options is this:
no matter which option is chosen, what the hell is the point of buying/releasing this game on the Switch? Who is this releasing for?
With A you won’t play it because you refuse to play it without the original and with B why would you play it if you already have another system which has the original game, trophies for this and the original game under 1 account and more than likely some sorta bonus for playing the original game when booting up this spin off on PS4?
You can say “its portable”, but is that really comparable when its this game? I’m getting strong vibes this game will flop on the Switch and then Atlus will act shocked as to why this happened.

@VoodooTrumpet P4 was a success but P5 pretty much caught the attention of all the mainstream awards shows and was a lot of people's introduction to SMT in general, let alone Persona due to how popular it became

Has Atlus are soo ignorant on wrong doings of Sony to Japanese games?

This game is only ment for the ppl who can't play the real persona 5 and other persona games. xD
hehehe

@SolarisPolaris
Id have to find a copy and no P5 games are available at my local store or GameStop (very limited choice of PS3 games nowadays).. I don't have Internet access at home to even update my PS3. You ikniw if it came to vita it wouldn't be a problem I could tote it with me and easily update it instead of hauling s crt tv, the system and its hookups to the coffee shop getting all sorts of bizarre looks as I search for a plug in! It's not like it's going to bankrupt Atlus by porting it to switch. The rumors last year of witcher 3 coming to switch as well as Cuphead and Ori were completely unfounded and had no evidence supporting them at all while P5 for switch was absolutely swimming in it!

@Itachi2099
That's exactly my fear.

@Itachi2099 "You can say “its portable”, but is that really comparable when its this game?"

No idea what that means. You're going to have to expound.

"It's portable" is literally the only reason to buy anything non-exclusive on Switch if you own other platforms. That's a more compelling reason for some of us than others.

This game isn't going to flop because some of you won't let go of the fact that P5 isn't coming to Switch. It's going to sell well because the interest of Persona is there. Some of you saying "vote with your wallets" to show your distaste. It could very well have the opposite effect. Atlus could shrug and say, "see....they really didn't want the game". However, if this sells very well...Nintendo could see a possible port or some sort to Switch.

@BlueBlur101 Persona is SMT; the mainline games are near irrelevant in terms of revenue and popularity in comparison

It was P4 which launched the animes, live events, spin-off games and massive merchandising push, and built the hype and anticipation for P5

@VoodooTrumpet SMT may not be nearly as popular as Persona but calling it near irrelevant is just flat out wrong.

SMT had anime adaptations before Persona really hit mainstream, and P4 got two of them in addition to a fighting game and a dancing game, but P5 was honestly responsible for Atlus really shifting their focus away from mainline SMT due to how successful it became as the highest and fastest selling title in the entire series

Like P4 never had the amount of collaborations and cross promotions that P5 is enjoying right now

Joker was honestly always going to come before Yu or Minato in regards to Smash now that I think about it. To casual audiences he's much more recognizable compared to Yu or Minato

And Persona is SMT still

@Rika_Yoshitake I love musou games and I'm hyped as hell for this

So, this is great news since I've been super hyped for this and I'm totally getting P5 Royal or whatever next year anyway, but, where is SMT5. Anybody else remember that was announced along with the switch in 2017? I mean, I assume that post-P5 they're going to make SMT without the annoying power of friendship stuff the series had since 3 (the 2s were more subtle than 4 and 5 you gotta give me that), but where's it at? There's been nothing about that game in years

@VoodooTrumpet Well, you only have a small point there. SMT 3 came out in 2003. Strange journey in 2009. The 4s came out in the 2010s, and both did okay, but nowhere near P5. SMT 1 and 2 came out in 1992 and 1994 respectively. The point is, there are more persona games than main SMT games now and they come out at a quicker pace so of course they are more relevant. That doesn't really mean anything in terms of quality. Tonally, they are very, very different series. SMT doesn't care about personas power of friendship. The universe hates you and your friends so you gotta just prove you're stronger through the power of power. It's a different thing entirely.

That said, SMT 5, if it still exists, will almost certainly be persona 5 with a lot of the cheeriness and animeness stripped back a bit. SMT is much more apocalyptic than persona is. Persona is about preventing the apocalypse, SMT is about figuring out how to morally rebuild after an apocalypse has happened. Relevance nor not, there's a place for SMT.

@Itachi2099 Musou games already have small audiences. Like, I don't imagine that they expect P5 numbers with this. Theyre probably looking for fire emblem warriors numbers. I mean, there are two demographics targeted here: People who like licenced Warriors games and people who like persona 5. You don't need to like both to enjoy the game, that's the beauty of the combo.

I love warriors games and I think a warriors game with SMT gimmicks and persona would be super fun so I'm getting it for sure. I don't think it'll do as well as Hyrule warriors because the fanbase, while large for P5, isn't nearly as rabid as it is for Zelda. The game will probably do just as well as fire emblem or pirates warriors.

@Kirgo I mean, it'll most likely be a perfectly competent Musou game. Which is fine, but it's kinda a niche genre and that's why people are upset. Personally, I love the licenced warriors games so I was super hyped that P5 is getting a pseudo sequel in a warriors format, but some people missed the OG persona 5 and want the chance to play it. Which is fair, it's a good game. I have a PS4 so I'm gonna get P5R as well, but I understand that not everyone has that option

Too bad this isn't the real P5 RPG, but a used PS3 isn't too expensive.

@Ralizah I just listed to you multiple reasons why anyone who’s interested in Persona 5 would buy this game on PS4 over the Switch, the “it’s portable” for your listed choices of
A-doesn’t make a difference
B-why would they buy it if they can have more benefits of buying it on PS4? With which you get: better visuals, better running game, you already played the original on PS4 and more than likely would buy the sequel spin off on the same console anyways(which some people in this thread already said that they would do that even if they own a Switch), trophies and i’m more than sure getting some sort of bonus for having the original games save?
The “its portable” excuse wouldn’t work for this game specifically, I guarantee you this game will sell much more on PS4 than it will on the Switch.

Looks pretty cool, but it is a bit tough to really want to get into a spin-off game without having played the original. It's a bit like when the released Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories on the GBA without any of the main series games on a Nintendo system.

Looks nice although this is obviously not the Switch version. The platform andf exploration elements might alleviate the boring continual combat.

Interesting how suddenly all the opinions have changed. Gamers are so fickle.

No P5 on Switch = no interest in SSBU Joker or this spin off.

@Itachi2099 Sounds more like you're projecting your own distaste for playing multiplats on Switch to everyone else. As long as the sacrifices aren't too great, some of us prefer the versatility of the Switch to trophies, higher resolutions, etc. in the TV-tethered versions. That's the entire reason a lot of people are so vocal about getting third party games on Switch in the first place.

Will this sell better on PS4? Probably. But that doesn't mean there aren't plenty of Switch owners who aren't also interested in this version. You are, of course, free to play the game on PS4. I'll play the one that doesn't require me to sit in front of a TV the entire time.

@Xansies I completely understand that. It would be great if P5 was being ported to Switch, as it is an amazing game.

What I am upset about is people making connections that make no sense.

We don't get P5? Then we don't want P5S either!!!
-> This kind of stuff.

It just isn't getting us anywhere. It doesn't make a port of P5 more likely, if anything this might makes it less likely.

Especially if we talk about SSBU Joker in that context as well. What has that to do with anything??
People have some strange view on what "being a character in SSB" is supposed to mean, but again, this whole discussion isn't us getting anywhere. And frankly, it is just a minority anyway, so not even the developers and publishers will really care about this one.

Look, let's be honest. When Atlus teased a "P5S" name, they knew people would assume that it was a P5 Switch port. And they used that to build up hype for the announcement of this game.

They know what Switch owners want, and they took advantage of that to get us to pay attention to a different game.

So yeah, sorry if some of us are a little miffed about that.

I'm blown away by this trailer! So excited now. And that box art is just incredible. There's nothing like a lean Switch game case that fills up the whole vertical space.

do not buy this crap its not Persona 5 its just another Dynasty Warriors game

@gloom nope also PS4 Persona is a PS4 title joker is only in smash because sakurai likes the game....

@AlphaElite actually Persona is a spin off title always been on a sony system Q is a 2nd spin off persona will never be on nintendo fans only want it cuz joker is in smash. if he wasnt no one one would care. SHINGAMI tensei is for nintendo all 5 have been exclusive the only "miffed" are people who believe idiot youtubers

@Kirgo sakurai ONLY put him in smash because-------HE LIKES the game and these idiot gamers think they deserve p5 on switch

@Itachi2099 the money is there P5 is the best selling Persona of all time. sakurai put joker in smash because frankly watch the interviews he loves the game thats all

@GameOtaku Persona 5 on the PS3 is $10 us dollars which is 7.75 pounds. if you cant afford it then you dont deserve to play Persona has been around for two years. best seeling Persona of all time sakurai put him in smash because HE LIKES THE GAME thats it i love these switch owners who complain because they cant play something because they have smash

@GAMER1984dude
I don't have time to play on the tv so a switch release would be a godsend. Honestly just because Sakurai likes the character is no excuse to put him in Smash. The big N has the true final say. If I had said last year at this time that Witcher 3 was coming to switch you'd dismiss it as a mere rumor because there was absolutely no evidence to suggest it was. But P5 had an overwhelming amount of evidence pointing to a "big" p5 release on a Nintendo platform (joker in smash, P5S announced). It's not like they'd lose money over a switch port given the number of responses on this post, that way if you didn't have access to a PS3 or 4 you could enjoy the story without being spoiled.

@GameOtaku I agree with you on that it would be nice to see the game ported to other platforms, having more options is always better and this does not affect the sales of Persona 5 but most likely increase them.

However I disgree with the second part of your comment. Sakurai made the game and it seems that he has the final say and not Nintendo itself. Also it is his work so why can't he say who is going to get in and who not? That is a really weird point to be honest.

@KoekiieWoekiie
It really is Nintendo's final say. What if he really liked Sailor Moon for example would it be ok for him to just throw the character on without Nintendos approval? No, just look at the debacle with punch out and sailor moon!

Look if he liked Persona that's fine. SMT did start on the super famicom so having a character from the franchise makes sense. A safer choice though would've limited confusion and false anticipation. Simon made sense (Richter not so much but who's to say Castlevania collection vol 2 isn't due out yet or possibly requiem will stealth drop), Snake made sense etc because thier games have appeared on Nintendo consoles. As I said before Jack Frost is the official mascot for Atlus and SMT/Persona in general much like the slime in Dragon Quest. Would the hype for 5 been this bad had it been Jack Frost instead of Joker? I believe not.

@GameOtaku I still believe that it is Sakurai who has the final say. Like this: Nintendo gives him a list and he chooses who goes into Smash. I pretty much know what Sakurai knows what he is doing.

Snake is at this moment not even playable in other Switch games outside of Smash. I could argue that Joker “deserves” a spot on Ultimate’s roster just as much as Joker.

I have never played SMT but I did play Persona 5 and that game is a multi-million game seller and loaded with critical appraise. It can be ”weird” that he is in Ultimate but I think he is more popular then Jack Frost.

Fans/players of Ultimate make rules that characters need to be in a game on a Nintendo console. Well I can do it too and “ use” it against you/them with Joker, he appeared on 1 game on the 3ds and will be getting another more prominent role on the Switch now. Cloud had a cameo in some Final Fantasy spin offs. Now Final Fantasy 7 is on the Switch. So people can now say that it feels “right” that Cloud is in Smash. Remember his reveal in Smash 4?

We should all accept the fact that it does not really matter what character is from what publisher. First party or third party, spin-offs or not? Ever appeared on a Nintendo console? You can all be in Smash Ultimate.

I am not against you in this discussion, just wanted to say the reason why Joker is in Smash Ultimate. I get that you want a more recognizable character from the SMT/Persona series but I do not think Jack would have cut it or be more preferred as opposed to Joker.

As I said before it would be nice to have Persona 5 on Switch and it would be very nice to say that the game would be coming when they announced Joker. However they did not and since then people hate Joker for no good reason.

@KoekiieWoekiie
The timing of Atlus's announcements is easily the biggest reason Joker is hated. P5 R was also announced around the time of the reveal so P5 S was obviously 5 for switch just like the naming convention for snes was super in the title. The Hero is OP but so is Bayonetta but no one is saying they were odd choices for Smash. Both have or had upcoming releases or has history with Nintendo.

@GameOtaku Both have or had upcoming releases or has history with Nintendo.

Same with Joker.

And yeah it was almost obvious for many people that P5 S means that a Switch version was inbound. However Atlus has stated before that Persona 5 is PS exclusive. Kotaku’s Jason Schreier (good track record) has also said this. And yeah after all these years it still is like that. Hope for Switch only players/ who prefer to play heavy rpg’s on it that it will still come. However with Persona 4G as popular as that is chances are slim, even if Atlus know that they would be swimming in cash.

@KoekiieWoekiie
The devil is in the details. P5 isn't coming to switch. That doesn't mean anything. Resident Evil 4 was GameCube exclusive after all and it's easily one of the most ported games. We didn't get DQ 11. We got DQ 11S! It's a tactic to misdirect people so when it's actually announced we are excited.

@GameOtaku Never assume that a game company putting an letter behind a game title means that game is coming to ' insert game console here'. That's Common Sense

Or, better yet, NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING
It only leads to disappointment

@SolarisPolaris
Given Nintendos penchant for its naming conventions P5 S obviously meant a switch port. It was to be expected! Mario 64, Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow, Super Valis 4, Zombie U etc! It was common sense to believe it was. One coincidence sure it's a rumor but 2 or 3?!

What was the point of it all?! To troll for months on end and them seeing what people thought it meant and did nothing?! Honestly did they not expect people to be enraged?

@GameOtaku Unfortunately, the examples you just gave are not made by the same company. It is the company's decision to name a game behind a popular naming scheme (Take for example, the tendency to put the word 'Super' in front of SNES titles.) I have checked the entire Switch library for game titles that use 'S', and only found one, Dragon Quest. There is not a predetermined naming scheme for the Nintendo Switch.

To be honest, the only reason a bunch of people thought that P5S was going to be a Switch port of P5 was Atlus's decision to bunch up all their announcements regarding P5 in one year (Mostly due to Joker in Smash Bros). Also, P5S is not Switch-exclusive; its coming out on both the PS4 and Switch. The 'S' in the tease means nothing more than the abreviation of a game title they did not want to reveal until they were ready.

@SolarisPolaris
You're right they absolutely announced way too much way to soon in a short amount of time. However they handled the aftermath poorly. Walmart didn't let the fake leak of the cheap switch persist and quickly quashed it. What were they thinking?! Waiting this long to make an announcement contrary to the hype that was built up for a port.

I'm going to say again, Smash is for characters with connections to Nintendo. Just like the 64 ad "Something has gone wrong in the world of Nintendo ". Snake had at the time of Brawl 4 games on Nintendo. Sonic besides being Marios corporate rival had appeared several times with collections, ports and new games. Cloud besides being the most recognized FF character has appeared in Kingdom Hearts games on Nintendo as well as Explorers (a bit off a stretch mind you). Now with Atlus, Flynn may have been a better choice since he represents SMT. If Persona is Sony exclusive is a poor choice and makes assumptions for games to come.