Switch Lite Added To Joy-Con Drift Class Action Lawsuit

As comfortable or as good as these controllers look, this system sure has a lot of controllers with drift.

Ah sh**, here we go again.

Well your poll does suggest a 24% failure rate (to varying degrees), which is still really very poor.

@WarpSpawn well, their poll was horribly inept at its question so it can't be taken seriously. Drift is supposed to show with wear and the videos nintendo life has shown so far were either faked or caused because the controller wasn't calibrated correctly.

We'll see what happens in the future

I bought a Lite yesterday so I will let you know... and send to Nintendo for free repair if this happens.

@Peshokinha I wouldn't mistake the poll for scientific in its methodology but the question looks pretty straight forward to me.

I cannot say as I have watched the videos and this is the internet, so some people probably are lying and/or faking it for clicks. But I am sure that anyone with genuine issues will be reassured that it cannot be real because drift is only supposed to show with wear. On the other hand, I was under the impression that dirt ingress was a big part of the problem, not just wear and tear.

Personally I have not tried the Lite but I have had 2 regular joycons with the problem. One may have been my fault due to a poor choice of case, though I am pretty sure I treated the second one a lot better. Third one seems OK so far.

It’s almost as if people are trying their hardest to get drift

Well, the failure rate is actually 0% on the original Joycon.

I have four and two mates also have four each. After two years, zero drift issues.

Everything you read on the internet is unverifiable, so can't be trusted...

My switch lite has been fine I put 30 hours into astral chain , 10 into links awaking, and l bit into splatoon.

You just bought a new product. It's fails. You get it replaced.... No you start a class action lawsuit.... Yes if it's true Nintendo dropped the ball but come on people.

@Skunkfish why would people be lying about the original joy-con drift if nintendo acknowlidged it and offers repairs for the drift? That you don’t experience the problem doesn’t mean no one can. 2 out of 3 of my left joy-con have started drifting and that’s really annoying, I’m not lying and usually don’t make a big deal out of it.

My drifting left joy-con can become really annoying after a while. Can't wait for a revised/upgraded Switch model so I can swap it. No point buying another joy-con just to have the same issue after a few months of use.

This court case is going to be a riveting one that’s for sure.

“Your honor, I present Exhibit A. While this may look to be a harmless blue joycon, it actually hides a dark secret. It Drifts!”

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To be continued...

They only were few defective switch lite systems (which always happens with mass production), why do people do so much noise about it.....

i didn't know they were allowed to add new reasons to existing lawsuits but hold on a second i thought class action lawsuit was made invalid since the whole fiasco years ago?

@Tantani so companies can't blatantly ignore you so easily?

This would be thrown out of court by any competent judge.

@Skunkfish I have only launch-day Joycon (neon) that came with the system and mine were drifting like absolute mad. Luckily Nintendo fixed it for free, but the drift numbers are absolutely factually not 0% on launch joycons.

Just shows that it's not so easy to make handheld gaming hardware.
In the end it WAS probably the buttons the ill-fated ZX Spectrum Vega Plus project fell on.
Making hardware in such small proportions just isn't easy, if it's supposed to continue working for decades.
And there Sony probably has an advantage compared to Nintendo, being a much bigger company and having made the Walkman all the way back in the early 80's.

LOL I knew this will happen.

If Iwata was still alive, he wouldn't have let this happened. As a gamer, he would test the hardware rigourously. Current CEO is just a businessman who only cares about money.

@Skunkfish It must be a problem. I doubt all those who are having the problem would be lying. What would be in it for them?

I had a slight case of drift, but I must of solved it by recalibrating the joysticks in the menu.

A better question isn’t whether this is happening or not, but rather- how soon is it happening. If you have one person who said it took 2 years and another that said it took 2 days well... something isn’t right here.

@Skunkfish
People must be imagining it then including myself.
I’ve been lucky though as have 8 joycons with 1 drifter

I've had several joycons with drift and Had to replace my joysticks several times, but I'm extremely sceptical about how soon the problem has occurred on the light.

@Woosh193 I'm sure you do have a drifting Joycon. What I'm saying is, it's impossible to know how common the issue is from people's comments on the internet.

If a hundred people post videos of drifting Lites tomorrow they could be the only hundred drifting devices out of half a million (a 0.02% failure rate) or they could all be made up....

It's really quite astonishing that they didn't change this poor design, i mean obviously they HAD to know about this.

Really really poor by Nintendo i must say, disrespecting loyal fans like this.

My left joycon has just last night started drifting horrifically to the left. Do we just contact NintendoUK to get it sorted?

I am saddened by this news

Try to play GRID autosport with drifting joycons, it is absolutely frustrating. I fixed mine with isopropylalcohol in spray.

@LavaTwilight the joy cons use different mechanisms for space saving purposes so the others not having issues doesn't really matter. The likelihood is that the failure rate isn't that high in general for Nintendo to do something about it. You've got to think that there are about 40 million Switch's out there plus plenty of extra joy cons, so if the failure rate was anywhere near that of these comment sections that number would be in the millions. That would probably make news in the mainstream media, I'm not saying the issue doesn't exist and from my own experience and what I have seen it seems to be wear and tear, which suggests a lot of the Switch lite complaining isn't genuine.

Also nobody has ever taken 20 hours to beat Link's Awakening 😉

Sorry if I've been away for a while, but I'm currently busting my butt working on a gaming news site (in Italy, so there's no competition at all).
Given you were eager to get suggestions while I was busy elsewhere, why not "Kyoto Drift"? So you get drifting for all Nintendo consoles. Everybody wins, journalism-wise that is.

My left JoyCon didn't start drifting until 150+ hours of play, so I kinda find it hard to believe that the Switch Lite control sticks are drifting this soon for a large number of people.

I've had to replace two separate joycons since i bought my switch at launch and now a third one is starting to act up. These controllers need a major overhaul or something. They aren't cheap either. Many stores don't even carry single packs so you end up having no choice but to buy online or spend 70 dollars on a two pack.

I've still got my original Nes and snes controllers and they work like new to this day. What's up with that? I know they are far less complicated but come on Nintendo do something about this!

It’s impressive to see the flat earthers crawling out the woodwork with their mentality of ‘If I ignore the evidence, it doesn’t exist’. With the reports being this widespread, of course there are cases that are true. Lawyers especially don’t just add arguments to their case without doing a whole ton of research as it could end up hurting them if mishandled.

@popey1980 @LavaTwilight if your in the UK they will only help if its in waranty.

My dad (an OAP) has been treated horribly by Nintendo as he brought a switch for my nephew who had problems with drift. They kept telling his to turn the switch on and off again, which wouldn't fix the issue. I had to get involved and was really disappointed with the level of service he recieved.

@Skunkfish Life must be so very simple for you.

@nessisonett It's one of beutiful things about the internet. Never fails to amaze me.

I hope that soon a revision of joycons will come. The OG ones aswell as the switch lite revision.
Because it would be a shame to have the switch get bad reputation. Even the lite, which I'm not a fan of.

@EvaEeveeFan I've been a loyal Nintendo fan since the '80s and still am. Their hardware never fails to impress me (I even loved my Virtual Boy.) I wish them no ill will at all and want only success for them.

That being said, I had a Joy-con with severe drift that started about 5 months after purchase (bought separately, so 90-day warranty was over.) Over time it got worse and worse. I really didn't want to have to spend the extra money to replace or repair it so I just dealt with it for quite a while. Luckily they started repairing them for free because there have been so many complaints, so I got mine fixed for free and now I'm happy.

Just because someone has a hardware issue doesn't make them a "hater." Especially when there are a whole lot of someones with the same exact issue, including diehard Nintendo fans.

I still don't see the point in the Switch Lite outside of being slightly smaller to hold that the normal Switch. I hear these issues with the Switch feeling too bendy when you use it in portable but plastic portable cases solve the issue.

Infact if you remove the Joy Cons from the normal Switch you can actually put it in your pocket and in that sense it has a higher portability use than the Lite does (no way you could pocket the lite if you want your joy cons to last - not that it matters at this stage).

I just dont see a point in the Switch Lite outside of being slightly smaller to hold... its defo not worth it if you already had a Switch...

But then again you could just buy a normal Switch, sell off the Dock for £80 (you would get more actually, packaged as a brand new dock) - then you've spent the same as a Switch Lite and you'll always have the option to dock if you ever wanted.

The Lite's only selling point is slightly smaller to hold... but thats defo not worth it for any current Switch owners - not like Nintendo have made owning two systems with one account easy... they really haven't which clearly means this is defo not targeted at current Switch owners.

@BooJoh "Just because someone has a hardware issue doesn't make them a "hater."
So to quash rebuttles now is time to call those whom call out unverified difters "haters" that doesn't help your case here. That's tells another case.

@BooJoh "Especially when there are a whole lot of someones with the same exact issue, including diehard Nintendo fans."
NL isn't all Nintendo fans we have Trolls masking as Nintendo fans on here. So let's be honest and clear on this fact. Anyone can register on this site.

In the end I like to see all those claims have independent verified finding to show the drifts were hardware wear as oppose to user abused hardware. I haven't seen this suite yet?

Had drift day one with my lite. Exchanged it for another one at the store. Hopefully my Switch lite #2 gets better mileage Ah well, as long as Nintendo fixes it no questions asked down the road

THEY ACTUALLY F--KING THINK SOCIAL MEDIA SHOULD BE USED IN A DAMN COURT CASE??!?!?!?!

I still find this a bit farfetched to be honest, i think those people must have forced their Switch Lite to drift just to gain some attention, is far to soon for drifts and as badly as we know Nintendo messed up, they wouldn't sell the new system with even crappier joycons, that makes zero sense!

I dont understand stand.i have the launch day switch and to this day i have no issues.i think people are being way to rough or not washing their hands after eating.

@StephanDLW and the peolle who disliked your comment they cant handle the truth

@SwitchForce I never called anyone a hater. I said that people who have a proven hardware problem (Joy-con drift) are not necessarily haters.

I also wasn't referring only to people on NintendoLife, but all across the net who have reported Joy-con drift.

That being said, I was talking about drift on Joy-cons, not Switch Lite. I am very dubious of any claims of drift on Switch Lite this soon after launch, and I think it's far more likely that some people just got systems with defective sticks or, in some cases, may be lying for attention.

I myself bought a Switch Lite and love it so far. If it ever does develop drift then I hope I can get it fixed for free, but I'm not going to boycott Nintendo or anything. On the other hand, I'm not going to white knight for Nintendo and pretend they can do no wrong. I think it's too early to add Switch Lite to this class action lawsuit, but I think the existence of the lawsuit in the first place is a good thing if that's what it took to get Nintendo to acknowledge that there was a problem to begin with.

Can drift really occur this early on? I'm sure it was nearly a year of wear before any cases of drift was reported on original Switch?

@Xelha I've already seen 2 videos saying stay away from those on Youtube.

Genuine, honest question from someone who didnt know this was a thing (and surprised to read that it has been apparently, going back to n64) - to people who have had the drift - are you hard on your controllers? I assume it cant be anything to do with that and just a luck thing - my friends and i have hammered our controllers over the years, inc some on Switch with late night multi player sessions etc. Not one of us has ever experienced this issue.
I would be interested to know what causes it in the first place and if the joy cons just arent as well built as previous controllers?

@BlueOcean I bought one as a gift so I hope this story is exaggerated. Be good to see how you get on.. I had drift on my original switch and it took a month to receive the refurbished one. I did get a free 15 day online subs extension which at least was something.

@Razer You kind of answered your own question there. The Switch light isn't really meant for current Switch owners, it's an alternate, cheaper option for newer customers. If you're someone who is going to play exclusively handheld, then there's really no reason not to buy the light unless you're really going to miss rumble. It's also a cheaper point of entry which for some people can make a world of difference.

I keep seeing people being "why would anyone upgrade to this model?" when nobody is asking you to upgrade to this model. It's not an upgrade. It's an alternate option for new people.

Love it! I’m all about holding people accountable.

Planning on getting my little brother one for Christmas but may hold out for more concrete information on this issue as i may just get a normal switch

@Xelha I agree with you and how stupid it is nintendo didn't fix the joy-cons in the lite version, but everyone has too understand that nintendo already took a formal stance on the cons that those situations were not production flaws. Meaning if they did change something on the Lite version they would have acknowledged something was wrong. Meaning everyone with a switch needed a recall of their product regardless anything. I had launch switch literally having every issue that was known and now a lite version. From a consumer pov it sucks, but from a corperate pov maybe they didnt had a choice, but too stick with the old joycon designs.

This is a disaster all around. A disaster on Nintendo’s part, journalists’ part, and the lawyers’ part. Let me explain.

The original joycon did have a problem. I got drift on one of my original joycon. It took about two years after launch for the problem to manifest. Contact cleaner fixed the problem. I now have my hypothesis as to why it worked (and, why it may not always work).

The Switch Lite, however, has had a redesign as pointed out by @GoodonSwitch on Twitter.

He suggests (and this has been discussed further on Reddit by other engineers), that the spring would stick as it slides around on the pad, since even tiny movements in the housing can prevent the stick from returning to proper zero. And this is why I believe contact cleaner worked. It provides a means of lubricant between the spring and the pad which allows it to slide back to zero. Though getting the lubricant to the right spot underneath is a bit of a dice roll, and may explain why some people are able to fix their drift and some are not. Now, it’s also possible debris buildup causes issues as noted by Spawnwave, and the lubricant removes the debris. It’s also possible Spawnwave was wrong and it’s only the spring, it’s possible @GoodonSwitch is wrong and it’s only the debris, or it’s possible both are correct and we have 2 separate root causes which need to be separately addressed, and solving one of them will only reduce, as opposed to eliminate, the number of failures.

But the Switch Lite does have a redesigned casing with a bump in the middle which prevents the spring from sliding. This indicates the Switch Lite has been addressed for drifting, or at least what Nintendo believes to be causing it (which they should know, if they simply tear down the units sent in and see what they all have in common- a spring that sticks? Alright, address that then) which btw, nobody reported having drift on the original Switch this soon. Which indicates to me the likelihood of actually having drift on a Switch Lite is slim to none. I think there are a few cases of defective units which are a completely separate issue (the few reported cases on Reddit were shown to be a stick that just needed to be calibrated or a faulty unit outright, etc). I think hysteria propagated by the media has resulted in detractors making false claims in the same way Switch games on Metacritic get bombarded by 1,000 0/10s, as well as people who don’t know any better mistaking a genuine case of a defective stick or unit requiring calibration for “drift”. I think it’s possible an issue could develop in time, but not even the original Switch had people claiming drift this early. Can’t be 100% sure why, but evidence does seem to point to it developing from wear over time, maybe from the scratches on the pad from the spring sliding, or perhaps it’s possible from the beginning even without the scratches, but just follows the exponential distribution based on mean rate of occurrence to where the bulk of occurrences happen down the line. Or maybe, it’s caused by something else and this won’t address anything, though I’m pretty sure with a lawsuit Nintendo is GOING to fix the issue, and this is clearly their response. So Nintendo‘s top engineers apparently believe this was the cause, since this is what they changed. It’s also possible there were multiple root causes, as noted previously, and this will only address one of them, thereby reducing the percentage of failures but not eliminating them. We really can’t be sure until we allow enough time to pass to see how everything pans out.

As for the lawyers, I think they’re doing an excellent job (at least with the initial lawsuit which was grounded in 2+ years of data) and I fully support the lawsuit. Nintendo was at fault with the original joy con design. I don’t support it with malice in my heart toward them- only a hope that it will be the catalyst to pressure Nintendo to fix issues sooner in the future. However, I do think it’s far too premature to include the Switch Lite, which from what I can see, has not only not been out long enough to develop real cases of the same drift, but it has also been re-designed to address the issue. And I think it’s incredibly irresponsible of the legal team to not wait and gather a little more evidence over the long-term and make sure it’s not just hysteria after a launch from anyone and their grandmother thinking any problem they have is that same drift, combined with detractors who want it to seem like there’s as many issues as possible. Again, not to say it may not have issues in the future but we have to actually wait-and-see for that to happen. And if there hadn’t been a joy con redesign I probably wouldn’t have the patience for wait-and-see. But since there clearly has been a redesign, we have to at least see if it works first before we claim... it doesn’t work.

And lastly, I think it’s a failure of journalists to properly report on this. They’re always quick to report on cases of drift (and good for them, they are doing their job), but ever so reluctant to report when it involves a possible fix. And I can only surmise it’s down to traffic. Fixes don’t draw the detractors, and thus generate less traffic, so they’d rather turn a blind eye to the fact the issue may actually be fixed (or at least, one of the root causes if indeed debris buildup over time is also a separate contributing factor) in order to continue generating traffic from the hysteria.

It’s a failure all around. Nintendo, journalists and even the legal team suing. Everyone has failed in their duties.

Literally as this is kicking off I suddenly get drift on my left joy con on my standard Switch. I did the isopropyl fix which got me another week but it’s back again. I’ve had it for 18 months and used it a lot but they should be lasting better than this.

I got mine near launch and it just started drifting about a month ago. I'm glad this came out because I was going to buy a Lite next Friday.

Drift happened on the extra Switch we hardly use so obviously there is issues regardless how how much or how long people have had/used them. Hopefully when Nintendo announces the Switch Successor in 2 years they design a custom inhouse joystick for their nextgen.

I started noticing issues with my joycons while playing Let’s Go Eevee, where the character would sometimes walk instead of run and that was annoying.

Nowadays, the left joycon just goes crazy registering left whenever it feels like. Sometimes it even happens to the right one, though it’s a lot less common.

Hopefully the lite will last me longer than a year or so. I plan to use it a lot less compared to the base model, so it probably will.

There is clearly a problem and Nintendo don't want to fix it, it seems ?
I mean, yeah they are "fixing it for free" (you are just using your warranty, they are not fixing it for free because they are kind ...) but they seem to underestimate the problem and that's annoying. Got 4 joycons, 4 got drifting problems.
So seeing that it's still there on the Switch Lite is a problem, clearly they just don't take this that seriously. The Switch Pro don't have that problem, the Xbox controllers doesn't, the PS4 controller doesn't, a lot of other controllers doesn't, and even there in the comments we can see how people who didn't met this problem are underestimating this. We are not talking about "people who are just rough" or people that are complaining about "occasionnal drifting issues", we are talking about the controllers having serious drifting issues even when you put them in a f*ing drawer, out of the dust, and start to drift when you pick it up a week after like it's Initial D.

I guess I'll just buy some joysticks on ebay and do the repair myself now that all my joycons are out of warranty. Maybe it wouldn't drive me crazy if I didn't bought 2 of them for almost 80€, if I knew I would have to fix these myself, I would have bargained the price

Predicted and expected since the first picture leaked. What else to say.

I'm no conspiracy nut, but I bet "premium analog sticks" is now a viable selling point for when Nintendo drops the Switch successor.

Mah... I have 1 switch and 2 switch lite... And none has drift issue... Am I lucky? Or someone uses badly the analogue sticks? I saw some friends beat the analogue sticks like a punching machine...in more than 30 years of gaming I never break a controller. Mah

I love Nintendo but have decided I am not a switch/ lite fan. They do look great, and I swear I got drift on my new lite which has been inconvenient but not unplayable. Even without that for me it seems uncomfortable to hold and use the analogue sticks for longer than a few minutes, so have now gone back to my 3ds which feels lovely and comfortable and robust, 2nite gonna play final fight 1 2 and 3 yay xxx

@EvaEeveeFan there's always problems like this with every console and handheld launch even with playstation and xbox, some of it true some of it made up by haters. This won't stop the switch from selling millions over the next few months especially with pokemon coming out

I am happy I got the Hori Split Pad Pro. Doesnt seem to have this problem and feels better build in general. What do we even pay 70 dollars for?

@WarpSpawn If you honestly think 25% of the users here have a defective Switch Lite immediately, you are gullible.

What a teribble oversight to not have better analog sticks in the Switch Lite!

The ''Joy-Con drift'' is a hardware issue known since March 2017!

And on Switch Lite you can't even detach and exchange them.

There was an easy solution to this, use better parts. That was too expensive for Nintendo though so hopefully they lose this.

So Nintendo knew about the issue and still released a new console with the same fault, that is pretty bad Nintendo...

It's not only Nintendo.. I bought for my PC DPD xbox controller... after some usage... it started drifting already and I didn't even played a lot. Soon i'm sure the analog won't even work and all characters will walk on their own while not pressing upward analog. Very annoying. I had to adjust some the sensitivity would be lower. In the past we surely got a bit better quality controllers. Now we can replace them each 6 months!

@Alucard83 Thats a cheaper 3rd party controller though, so not really the same. Nintendo know how to make a analog stick reliable, yet even with a new console they have used the same design.

So only the USA people had this problem? I don't see the Japanese or PAL regions complaining or having this issue. Does that mean those regions had better design products? Seems like the USA had problems with everything nowadays which is sad cause I had my Switch for close to 3 years now and never had that big of an issue with it. I do experience joycon drift but not to the point where it hampers my gameplay experience and I usually just let it go as drifting control was also found on the PC, PS2, PS3, PS4, PS Vita, Xbox 360, Dreamcast, GameCube, Wii, and Wii U as well. Seriously I play these a lot so when it drift I notice. I guess it had something to do with the control being analog or something.

I’m a huge Nintendo fan boy who’s owned every single piece of hardware they have ever released but I sadly want them to be taken to the cleaners on this one. My joycons ended up unusable due to the amount of drift on them within 18 months of owning the console. I’ve NEVER had problems with any other piece of hardware or controller like this. I think it’s terrible that it’s taken the threat of legal action for Nintendo to do the right thing by their customers and fix and design flaw for free. Worse still is the fact this hasn’t been rolled out worldwide to all customers, only in the continent where the law suit is up. They know there is a problem but they want to do as little as possible cuz heaven forbid they would have to spend some money to correct a mistake. It’s really poor customer service on Nintendo’s part.

@Xelha They must have had a lot already produced.

@JaxonH the best explanation I've ever read about this issue. Applause

so if you bought a samsung tv it randomly changes channels hell its okay. Buy a Nissan it randomly drifts to the left. By a Atari VCS it just sits the doing nothing. But Nintendo make a faulty product then you defend it WTF are you fffffffffffffffffffffffffffff nuts.

@Hughesy I know, but even official XBOX ONE controller had same issue... RB button was broken very quickly and I didn't even play a lot. Suddenly the RB button was broken somehow.. it didn't function as it should. I had to press like 3x to able to do something. And that's from official MS controller. I replaced already for the 3rd on my PC an xbox controller now I got DPD and DPD does a better job with the RB button. So it doesn't surprise me that SWITCH has the same problem. All companies goes as cheap possible and demand the same price. There is no more quality! Period

my original launch joycon left one has that issue which didnt show up till around december 2018 and then my right one acting up early 2019 and after getting new ones havent had any more drifting issues at all.

I had a left neon yellow joycon drift and used WD-40 Specialist Electrical Contact Cleaner. It cleared up the drift right away. I also used it on someone else's joycon and it cleared it up there as well. I'd recommend trying that before sending it in to repairs or buying new JoyCons. I'm not promising it will work 100 percent of the time but it is worth trying based on my experience.

@JaxonH I had drift issues after 5 months, and contact cleaner didn't fix the issue. Neither did disassembling the unit. I'm pretty handy with electronics but this one had some (for lack of a better term) "stuff" that had been scraping off. Not sure what material it was but when I disassembled it there was what appeared to be a ground metallic substance, like a fine powder or dust. Something in there wasn't right. Nintendo ended up just giving me a new unit.

All I'm saying, hardware failures can be caused by numerous issues, and with Nintendo's continual shift to "quantity over quality," it's clear why they are having a class action lawsuit held above their heads. They need to re-investigate their business practices, and find a better way to mass produce their gear without sacrificing the quality that they are usually offering.

Please move @JaxonH's post in this thread up to #1. Excellent argumentation!

@LavaTwilight my pro controller has had drift twice. Essentially I’ve bought two with the cost of repairs. I will go a good month or two between uses so I’m not some crazy gamer. Nintendo messed up with this round on their controllers.

@StephanDLW You're wrong about the "after a long time" thing. I bought the new Switch SKU and within a week my joycons were drifting

@AlternateButtons i agree since nintendo is fixing joycons with drift for free this lawsuit should be dismissed and im getting suspicious about thw switch lite having drift issues this early probably these people are either making it up or not treating their system properly.

@Tasuki some of you people are blowing this drift problem out of proportion and you do realize it can be fixed for free right or you just want to go on a hate train nintendo over a small problem which can be easily fixed.

I've agreed with their previous lawsuit, but this one was definitely premature. The system came out over a week ago.

That's how you lose it... Use your case to add a new system without the same amount of evidence?

You'd almost think the lawyers are on a Nintendo payroll by this stage.

Here is the (sole)1Star review on amazon UK for the Gray switch Lite:
"These devices should be a relic of the past. There is no need for a dedicated handheld device in 2019.
The system is overpriced and games are expensive. Plus you need to pay to play online.
Also, despite the name, this device doesn't Switch. There is no TV/docket option.
The whole device reeks of Nintendo buffoonery."

Basically idiots like these affect how products are perceived.....

@cfgk24 sound like that reviewer is quite bias against the switch and should be tossed into a garbage can where he belongs.

such brats. Acting like your owed something after nintendo said they will fix it.

@Tasuki so youre a fan of nintendo but you trash them? over something they said they would? what are you?

I have had my Switch for 18 months and I have replaced my left stick three times. At least the replacement parts are dirt cheap and it is really easy to do. I am going to have to change the screws next time though, they are getting stripped lol.

@KIRO Yeah, I guess we'll have to wait and see. The Switch Lite is really nice, the only cheap part is the screen like in the original Switch.

@cfgk24 "there is no need for a dedicated handheld device" yet here I am still clocking 1000h/year on my poor old 3DS. Explain THAT, Amazon Customer!!!1

Was going to get a switch lite but my brain kicked in regarding stick drift. Not saying it’s a huge problem on the lite yet but it’s enough to put me off

@Hughesy you dont know what youre talking about bull on this one the system came out a week ago.

@NotTelevision its not even going to go to court this will be thrown out just like the drift first one.

Just send them in. They fix it free and cover shipping both ways.

I sent both my right and left joycons and they fixing them FREE as "in warranty". I got mine on launch day March 2017. So they giving it regardless when you got your Switch.

"The majority said they had not had problems so far"

Err, that survey shows a possible 25% failure rate. You make a consumer electronics with that failure rate and you will get sued. That is not normal.

@Agramonte That was not a legitimate survey lol

@JayJ Legitimate or not - survey or poll... it is the one referenced in the article with "majority not having an issue". But 25% failure is "an issue".

@Agramonte ...if that was a valid. Considering how it is an invalid survey it indicated nothing besides how many people trolled it.

@JayJ sure, then it needs to be invalid for the article's statement that "majority not having an issue"

Can't have it both ways. They should just delete that link or find a valid survey to reference.

this is honestly sad xD but funny, like you thought they would learn the first time with the switch's major bad issues with joy con drift, but nope they didn't. -it proves to show that the new nintendo is going down hill slowly.

i really was hoping for the true, and old nintendo to stay true -not this new nintendo. sigh -also i do love the nintendo switch lite, it's adorable -i just feel bad for those customers or people who basically wasted money on a hybrid that got joy con drift issues :/.

@StephanDLW I can buy it. The right Joy-Con on my version 2 Switch started drifting after I had owned it not even a full week.

@MidnightLaces theres no evidence of the lite having drift issues and we dont know if these people are just pulling everyone legs trying to cash in on the lawsuit.

Here's my take here and twitter:

This problem needs a independent lab to test the products abusively and normal gaming activities to document the problem anything short of this is just not going to help the case. This will cement the problem of hardware or user caused. Anyone can look at the internet to find what they are looking it's when they must have a lab document the problem and repeat it over and over with other units to show that there is a link or no link. This is why the Lawsuit has gone nowhere as of late. Because Nintendo most likely asked them to show Documentation of the testing to verify the problem and it most likely has none to show for it-other then hearsay or a few caused but used to say this small majority will happen with the rest. This is what I find being not helpful - too many talking and show lack of or not enough Verified Documentation to give it much to go on. And this is what can also kill a case.

If the Lawyers can't do this or the people of the problems can't get this Verified then it will come down to they are just looking for a Ca$h Cow and nothing else. Notice how they Lawyers don't seem to mention how those owners would be compensated or Joy-Con replaced by whom either way.

@KIRO I am not sure that my reply was sent. Just in case, yes, I'll write how the Lite performs. The Lite is better than what I expected but the screen is somehow bad like in the original Switch with poor contrast and no real black. Oh, and it's quite reflective too. However, white is white and not reddish or yellowish like in the other two models. The ergonomics, weight and plastic are nice. The buttons are not clicky but not spongy either. Interestingly, L and R are clicky.

@Skunkfish False. My original joy cons had drift. And I'm a real person. My second (and third) pair have been fine.

@RiasGremory It is hard to believe that any Switch Lites could have developed drift this quickly. But you can probably figure there are at least a small number that are just defective. Same symptom with a different cause. Just like when the Switch launched there were reports of defective screens, but it was rare.

@Skunkfish one or two reports and the fuel that is needed for the sh*tstorm is there lol

... my lite has SAME issues ALL 6 of my joy cons have!! What is it with them!!!?? How hard is it to get a frickin "joystick" right. Thousands of complaints ... "I know ... we'll stick to our guns" ...... amateur hour ... AGAIN!!

Wait, i know the lite has a redesigned analog stick, yet, people already report issue 10 days after launch? Didn't it take like 2 years for the first drift issues to manifest?

I got a check a week or two ago for less than $3 for the class action lawsuit against Sony and the removal of the Other OS mode.

Not ever going to bother with one of these again.

Nintendo gets what they deserve.

@DanTheSausage I have a switch lite and I’m not having any issues so it’s more than likely possibly that these people have defective units and are complain that it’s drift. And then classic internet making a mountain out of a molehill mentality took over.

Well, considering they implemented very few, if any changes to the Joycon sticks, I am not surprised that this happened. I wonder how this will all pan out considering how big of a deal the detachable joycon drift was for a lot of people.

The class action lawsuit is payback for Nintendo shutting down ROM sites 😂

I recently bought my 3rd set of joy cons due to the damn "drift" crap. I thought I was safe this time around but nope. I guess it's a matter if time before this third set drifts. Guess I'll send the second left one I bought to Nintendo and see what happens.

@PBandSmelly The lawsuit wasn't started until July of this year (NOA began fixing out-of-warranty Joy-cons for free mere days after the lawsuit was announced. Coincidence? I think not.) You can easily find posts on Reddit and even right here on NintendoLife from a year or more before that complaining about drift. A lot of people thought it was the right Joy-con receiver problem when they first experienced it, but they were two separate problems (and I might add, the receiver problem was quickly addressed and fixed by Nintendo, while they ignored the drift problem for a long time.)

https://www.nintendolife.com/forums/nintendo-switch/joy-cons_analog_stick_moving_without_input

@JaxonH Finally someone with some common sense.

@TheFox That is most likely what's happening here. The whole cause of drift is due to wear and tear over months. For someone to have this happen straight out of launch is more of being a defect with manufacturing than wear and tear. Not everything is perfect.

@TheFox true but its kind of suspicious to see another lawsuit for the switch lite joystick wen there hasnt been any such reports of joystick issues as of yet plus the switch lite joystick are using a new part that wont make them drift that easily.

@StephanDLW. Dont be one of those" it doesnt happen to me... It doesnt happen to anyone else" kinda guys..... Beleive it or not it has happened to me and i know it happened to other people too....

@JayJ No. I don't. Only that 24% of respondents claim to have a failure. Which does at least raise the slightly worrying possibility that the real world failure rate is relatively high but obviously more rigorous studies would be needed to confirm this.

I have no idea what the actual failure rate is but it is likely to be above 0%. If the Lite has been added to the law suit, it might be reasonable to assume that the lawyers involved have uncovered at least a few credible looking cases with the new console.

"You knew this was coming, Pete!"

• Spiderman Movie

Even though the Switch is not a 'new' console anymore, the Lite version is, so it's safe to say that, yeah, some people will have problems with them. The N64's controller was the same way with certain people complaining about the analog stick on Mario Party, but, it was just a few people. I'm sure Sony and even Microsoft and Sega had their problems with consoles too, even newer models of them, so it's just something that nintendo will fix with patches later on, and it states in the article that nintendo is aware of the problems. I'm sure they'll fix it. Wasn't there also a problem with the Switch during release of the screen bending a little from heat?

@Lady_rosalina,

I hasn't happend to me though.

So, I bought the yelow switch lite today, despite being generally against it, because I think it is a downgraded product and doesn't deserve to be called a "Switch". But I decided to give it a chance and use it as a kind of "test" during warranty time, to see if the joycon (is it a joycon?) drift will happen. First thing after opening the box is noticing how small it is. Hmmm, it may be problematic to read text in games. Will see how that goes. Second thing... the d-pad. It feels kind of... cheap. Similar to new 2ds xl d-pad. Compared to original game boy d-pad for example, this feels... I don't know... cheap. But ok, like I said, I'll give it a chance. The most signifficant feeling I felt was that of not having a "complete" product, due to the lack of docking ability. Even now, as I am typing, the feeling is weird, like I've been cheated somehow, robbed of something, like something valuable was lost. I'm looking at it(the switch lite) and it's looking back at me. And thoughts come to my mind: do I really need this half-baked product with potential hardware fault? Especially now that I have the "revised" switch with even longer battery life? Hmmm, I don't know. Will give it some time and then decide.

Problems with Lite are not "the drift issue" which happens over extended use and eventually happens to all analog stick modules. If there's a drift issue in week 1, these are just defective units out of the box. Same symptom, but different problem.

@Xelha They don't make the stick modules, no console company does. They just buy the parts from an electronics supply vendor. They can put pressure on the vendor to enhance the durability of the part, but they're somewhat at the mercy of the vendor. Especially if there's no other reasonable vendor supplying sticks with these dimensions.

Again I will ask whom here has Lab tested and verified results that can be posted and shown is a problem or user caused problem or specific hardware problem. When this is asked everyone I seen so far talks about Youtube and Google search. These are they two biggest reason the suite will die before the courts even see it. If these are the only two places Nintendo will have a field day with it.

And Also I played BOTW to the hill and no Drift issue Joy-Con or Pro and now with the new update Switch DQXI S docked and Joy-Con play have zero drift showing up.

@WarpSpawn Well the sad thing is that this is probably going to hurt the case for people who are experiencing actual Joy-Con drift. Having a product thrown into the lawsuit where nobody is really experiencing any real issues, but it's included anyways for the lulz because some people trolled a poll. This will only hurt people with a legitimate case in the end because now the defense can claim that people are making things up and they would have a really great reason for saying that.

@Skunkfish Well I've two joycon fail on the original Switch since 2017, so.......

@AlternateButtons Ha, seriously?

Nintendo just needs to market the drift issue as a feature called automatic movement assistance, a bit similar to auto-fire for your buttons, fans will be grateful, it's free and comes pre-installed.

With all the focus on drift, I find the JoyCons have a much more serious and annoying problem — unstable wireless connections with the system. Some months back many on the Internet were humorously satirizing Nintendo's official advice to those suffering from the issue, which was to essentially play your games in a Faraday cage.

But nonetheless, the issue has never been fixed. The tiny sensors or wireless transmitters in the JoyCons are fundamentally flawed. In order to prevent constant disconnection, I have to take my switch down from the electronics rack and place it in line of sight with the JoyCons. Then, I have to make sure those using the JoyCons are no more than 6-7 feet away.

Wavebirds for the Gamecube(!) never had this problem.

Funny the ones who say "I never had problems with my joycons"

One of those people on here just got caught flat out lying about something else, in another article.

Speaks a thousand words, doesn't it.

@RiasGremory i'm pretty sure there was evidence, and still is =0 plus if there wasn't any evidence at all, than Nintendo wouldn't be an another lawsuit -so yeah.

@TheLightSpirit It most likely is a bad batch, but you still gotta know that people spent money on those bad batches -that shouldn't have been pulled out on the market to begin with :/ could've avoided this entire mess tbh.

@TheLightSpirit Well he was caught lying about other things

Nothing wrong with taking what random people on the internet say at face value

I bought a switch lite. The yellow one.
But after a week of playing it, I returned it. It feels good in hands, but that's it. Nothing more.
I just felt that it is a half baked product. Barebone. It doesn't deserve the name "switch". I really tried to give it a chance. But, like I said, apart from the feeling when having it in hands... nope
The d-pad... I don't know if it was the unit I picked, but it felt so... low quality. It felt like a new 2ds xl d-pad. I played street fighter on it and out of 15 tries to pull off a dragon punch I succeeded 2 times. Many times I couldn't jump diagonally. As if it didn't register the input.
I liked the feel of buttons and joysticks, but that feeling of a potential drift occuring hovering over my head... nope
On the other hand, playing my other switch(v2) felt much better. It is a switch. Plus, it has a better battery, even though it is not a dedicated handheld. Ridiculous.

I would absolutely not recommend the switch lite. Maybe aftef the revision, after the potential joycon drift is dealt with. After better quality d-pad is added. And after it gets a new name, because the "switch" doesn't suit it well.

As long as we support these half finished products with our money, Nintendo will get away with it. Look at Microsoft and Sony. They don't degrade their products.

Use your common sense, not feelings induced through hype.