8BitDo has come a long way in a relatively short space of time. In the beginning, the company wasn't taken totally seriously by a select few who saw its line of clone NES and SNES pads as little more than cheap facsimiles of the real thing, but following a rebranding and a particularly fruitful relationship with Analogue, the maker of the Nt and Super Nt systems, 8BitDo has become one of the foremost manufacturers of wireless controllers on the planet – and the fact that its range is compatible with Switch certainly helps, too.
In the past, 8BitDo has focused on creating clones of iconic Nintendo pads, and this approach has served the company well. These designs already have a built-in fanbase which knows how comfortable and ergonomic they are; there's a familiarity there that stretches back decades. However, with the impending arrival of the Analogue Mega Sg, 8BitDo has moved onto aping Sega products, and the M30 is its first stab at creating a pad aimed at those weaned on the likes of Sonic and Streets of Rage. Most notably, it's an all-new design which is arguably superior to the original Sega controllers it takes inspiration from.
The M30 is being released alongside the Mega Sg with a 2.4g receiver module, but, as has been the case in the past with the SN30 pad, 8BitDo is also releasing a Bluetooth model which works out of the box with the Nintendo Switch (as well as Android devices and computers, of course). That's the model we're looking at here, and the good news is that it matches 8BitDo's other products in every regard – in fact, we might even be as bold as to state that it's the best pad the company has produced, period.
Why would we make such a lofty claim, especially as 8BitDo's other controllers have been modelled on some of the most beloved pads in the history of gaming? Well, it's all about the D-Pad. The M30 – which is closest to the legendary 6-button Genesis / Mega Drive controller in terms of design and layout – features a 'rolling' pad, which uses a circular design with ridges to denote the Cardinal Directions. This pad sits on a 'stalk' which allows it to roll smoothly during use, making it the interface of choice for players of certain genres – 2D fighters being perhaps the most obvious, as the ease in which you can 'roll' the pad makes it ideal for pulling off the motions required for special moves.
However, the pad is equally well-suited for other games, including 2D shooters, platformers and many more besides. In the humble opinion of this scribe, it's the best D-Pad design of all time, and that's one of the reasons why we rate this controller so highly. Another very solid reason is the fact that it has six buttons arrayed on the face of the pad rather than the traditional four, which again makes it utterly perfect for games like Street Fighter. In fact, if you've got Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection, then this will be your dream input.
The M30 connects to the Switch in seconds and is highly responsive, with no noticeable lag. Build quality is superb; the plastic feels premium and the pad itself is solid. The buttons are nice and firm and don't exhibit any of the sponginess that usually plagues third-party controllers, and there are two shoulder buttons on the top, which means you've got the same number of buttons as the typical Pro Controller / Joy-Con pair setup – even if they're arranged slightly differently. The 'Start' button doubles as the 'Plus' button, and underneath this are Screenshot, 'Minus' and Home keys.
On the bottom edge, there are four green LEDs which give information on various things, such as the power level of the pad's battery, whether or not it's trying to connect and what 'Player number' it is assigned to. On the top, you'll find the USB-C charging port, which is also used to deliver firmware updates to the device. Toggling between the pad's various compatibility modes – which cover Switch, Windows, Android, macOS, Steam and Raspberry Pi – is done via button combinations when starting up, and these have thankfully become standardised across 8BitDo's products over the years so it's easy to remember what's what.
If we were going to have one complaint about using the M30 on Switch, it would be the fact that the buttons are all mixed up. 'A' on the pad is actually 'B' on the Switch, while 'B' becomes 'A'. Likewise, 'X' and 'Y' are also swapped. It takes a little getting used to, but the main thing to note is that when you're playing any title in the Street Fighter 30th Collection, the buttons are laid out correctly from the start, with punches on the top row of buttons (X, Y and Z) and kicks on the bottom (A, B and C). Another minor grumble is that the pad only replicates the Joy-Con's left analog stick when it comes to input, so you can't use it with certain games – like Tetris 99, for example, which requires all three directional inputs to play. We also noticed that some games – Devil Engine being one example – wouldn't recognise any directional input from the M30. However, every other title we tried was perfectly fine (it's great for Neo Geo games, by the way), so this might be a problem with Devil Engine itself.
As well as working with a wide range of Bluetooth devices, the M30 can also be used with original Genesis / Mega Drive hardware via the handy Retro Reciever, an optional extra which plugs into the 9-pin controller port on the front of Sega's 16-bit console and also allows you to use other Bluetooth pads with the system. Again, performance is exemplary, and when you consider that the M30 costs significantly less than the only other wireless option available right now – Krikzz's Joyzz, which will set you back a whopping £65 – then there really is no contest – unless you really have to have a pad that's an almost exact replica of the original Sega 6-button controller.
To say that the M30 is 8BitDo's most accomplished controller yet might sound like hyperbole, and we accept that as rabid fans of Sega's 16-bit hardware (we're based in the UK, we can't help it), we can't help but love any pad that apes the same classic design. Irrespective of any personal affection for Sega, the rolling D-Pad and six-button setup make this a fantastic choice if you're a fan of 2D fighting games on Switch, and it's just as wonderful to use on other titles, too. You may find that the SN30 Pro is more to your liking – hey, everyone's got their own preference, and having analog sticks is handy – but the M30 is arguably one of the best 'retro' wireless pads money can buy right now, even if its scope is somewhat limited by reduced input options and the lack of rumble and NFC.
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Brilliant! I'll be ordering one today, then. I love the look of the controller, but I was concerned about the quality of the D-Pad. This might very well be outright replacing my SN30 as my go-to controller for retro and retro-style games on the Switch.
Looks great, but the lack of analogue sticks is a real shame. I'd love a controller for the likes of Smash, but I'm not paying £55 for a Nintendo one.
This is the controller I need for Landstalker on the Mega Drive Classics, using an analogue stick is so hard.
Definitely getting me one of these, it's going at a good price too. Just love that dpad.
I was going to get this for my Genesis but the Krirkzz one was on sale a couple months ago so I bought it instead. It’s a perfect replica of the 6 button Genesis pad and it has great features such as being able to emulate the Genesis 3 button controller for games like Golden Axe 2 or the Master System contriller for use with my Master System. So I’d say if you’re looking for a wireless controller to use with your Genesis/Master System it’s worth waiting for the Krikzz one to go on sale.
Would buy a pro model, with dual analogs and motion controls.
In you go, pre-order.
I've been considering an 8bitdo controller recently, so this one is going to have get some thought. I prefer the flexibility of having thumbsticks, but it would be nice to have an out and out 'good' d-pad.
@Damo - can you offer any input on why this type of d-pad is so comparatively rare, and should I expect any durability compromises from this type?
Mini NES / Mini SNES controller are the best retro controllers for the switch... proper original
Sounds great. Just to clarify, the Bluetooth version works with Switch out of the box, and with the original Mega Drive console via seperate adapter, but if I end up buying the Analogue Mega Sg, I need the 2.4ghz version (which won’t work with the Switch or the original console)?
Personally I'm still so attached tot he original Mega Drive controller, which I loved dearly. I never had one of these, but I'm glad to hear is great.
@Sinton I think the Bluetooth model will work with your Mega Sg too (I can't see why it wouldn't, as it works on the original console) - they just offer two options.
@gcunit I have no idea why more companies haven't used this D-Pad. The Xbox 360 had a rolling pad but that was pretty terrible.
@Sinton The Bluetooth version should work just fine on the Mega SG, you would just also need to buy the Retro Receiver. I've not received them yet, but I did order two of the 2.4ghz version for my Mega SG. They are cheaper, came with the adapter, and I've had some latency/missed input issues when using multiple 8bitdo bluetooth controllers simultaneously on my NT/Super NT, so I'm hoping the 2.4's don't have that problem. Still, either one should work with the Mega SG assuming you have the adapter.
@roadrunner343 Yeah, I think the 2.4ghz versions are to avoid any latency - but TBH I haven't had any problems with the BT versions on my Super Nt or original hardware.
Do you have to buy the adapter separately cos I wanted to use it for the switch and my md I’m sure I saw something about this a few months ago and it was packaged with the adapter
Just read other comments it’s the 2.4ghz that comes with the md adapter
@Damo I love my bluetooth models as well (NES/SNES) - but when my wife and I are playing multiplayer, I get just enough hiccups to be annoying. My NT Mini used to sit behind a glass cabinet door, so that was probably part of the issue. Still, none of my other consoles suffered from the same issue. My Super NT sits on top of the cabinet now and I have no issues.
Also, I know I'm a bit of a niche market, but I'm really looking forward to ripping a couple of these apart for some custom arcade stick builds. I've previously used the NES30 Pro, but it looks like this will be much better suited - no separate analogue stick board to mess with, USB C, more buttons for menus, and even the 6 face buttons lend themselves better to fight stick layouts.
@Damo @roadrunner343 Thanks! Guess I’ll start off with the BT one then, and if I decide to pick up the Analogue Mega Sg and receive latency issues, I’ll go for the 2.4ghz as well. 😊
@Damo Fair enough. How's the battery life?
My old Mega Drive pads are a bit creaky, these sound like ideal replacements, and using them on Switch is an added bonus.
Finally the news I've been waiting to hear. This will be mine, along with the SF collection...
Have had the 2.4GHz MD version pre-ordered for AGES. I'm still a little conflicted though. The bluetooth controller plus receiver would be more flexible (Switch and MD), but the receiver alone costs almost as much as the 2.4GHz controller...
@CurryPowderKeg79 All the 8bitdo ones are high quality, have yet to see a bad one.
I'm getting this for my Sega Genesis Classic Collection, Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection, Blazblue and Dragon Ball FighterZ, Cuphead, the Hamster games, Sonic Mania Plus, and the Sega Ages games. I'm also hoping 8Bitdo release the M30 Pro controller soon then I could play Shenmue 1 & 2 the proper Sega Saturn way instead of the lame Dreamcast way which I hate.
@BionicDodo That's cause the receiver is bluetooth enabled and had custom hardware in it. Bluetooth is expensive to implement than the 2.4g one and with bluetooth you could update the firmware for better performance and compatibility whereas the 2.4g you can't really do that.
I do had to say the 2.4g works better than the bluetooth one in terms of compatibility since the only thing it connects to is the receiver. The bluetooth one may had pairing issues sometimes due to its high compatibility support which could be corrected but still a chore to do.
@CurryPowderKeg79 I get what you are saying, but fear not they are quality through and through.
So the A/B/X/Y buttons map to the Switch's B/A/Y/X buttons in that order, but what about the C and Z buttons? Do they map to ZL and ZR?
@retro_player_22 The 2.4GHz model has a micro USB port for charging, so I am guessing that it can probably be connected to a PC for firmware updates too.
I want this!!!! I received Street Fighter 30th Anniversary as a gift but playing it with the Switch Joy Cons is not fun.
That is a slick pad. I can just tell when a controller is likely to be genuinely good based on the design alone. Most 3rd party pads immediately give away that they're not going to be that great because they just look like amateur/cheap designs, but this pad's whole look and design signals that it's likely to be very good, which it seems it is.
We need more retro pads of this all-round quality, for all the different retro consoles. Oh, and Sega should probably talk to these guys about how to make sure its next Genesis Mini or whatever is up to scratch too.
Although, let's be real here, Damo, the traditional NES/SNES d-pad utterly pisses all over Sega's d-pad for the Genesis. The Genesis pad was always kinda wobbly and not very good at letting you hit the main up/down/left/right directions perfectly (kinda necessary in many games), you'd just accidentally press a diagonal half the time, at least in my experience, which wasn't great for many games of that era. And, ironically, I actually recall it being worse for doing special moves in Street Fighter II also. Wasn't this something that almost everyone agreed on even back in the day?
And, just comparing the standard Genesis pad to the standard SNES pad for a moment (since those are the ones you got in the box at no extra cost), those additional shoulder buttons on the SNES and the diamond-shaped face button layout offered far, far more versatility for all types of games: Imagine trying to play a Doom-style fps game with strafing and the like using a standard Genesis controller, or an F-Zero-like game with left and right air brakes, or Smash TV with independent 8-way movement and 8-way aiming at the same time, or, indeed, Street Fighter II without upgrading at an additional cost to the 6-button Genesis controller . . . never mind the fact the platformers were the most popular gaming genre of that era and the SNES d-pad was just better suited to and superior for those types of games.
I actually/genuinely thought this particular discussion, which pad was/is better, was something that was beyond any serious debate at this point.
@CurryPowderKeg79 @ReaderRagfihs Very clearly, you have no clue whatsoever what "cheap" looks like in terms of gamepad design.
This is what a cheap 3rd party Genesis-style controller looks like (and I've seen worse than this):
This is not:
@impurekind So all wired controllers are now cheaply made junk?
@GamingDude800 That's a huge leap in the wrong direction you made there. It's not about being wired or not wired (at all); it's about all round quality. One of those pads is clearly cheap meh, and the other is not.
preordered mine like 6 months ago and ive never wanted to get a controller more. all of 8bitdo's products r high quality. the things they make have a Nintendo build quality to them if that says anything. professional stuff here.
@BionicDodo Nope that is only use for charging, a receiver with 2.4gz wireless signal had just that, the wireless signal only. There's no update options on the 2.4gz signal. Think of the 2.4g wireless receiver as an actual game cartridge and the bluetooth wireless receiver as an EverDrive cartridge and you'll get the picture.
An actual game is official and can't be updated nor patch cause it already contain all the contents already on the cartridge whereas an EverDrive cartridge is similar but can be patch with updates and firmware to make it more compatible later on. A better comparison is that a 2.4gz receiver is like a CD-R, once it got everything recorded it can't be overwrite (meaning updated), bluetooth receiver is like a CD-RW, even if you add updates to it, it could be over-write which is why most of the time it had problems with compatibility.
How does it compare to the new Retro-Bit Saturn and MD controllers?
High quality 6-button wireless Genesis controller with no noticeable lag that works on Switch, PC, and Genesis that won't break the bank? Sold!
@gcunit all of my Megadrive and Saturn controllers work perfectly to this day so I'd say there are no durability issues with the design
@Sinton @Damo I take it back, I'm actually cancelling my order of the 2.4g and ordering only the Bluetooth. I just realized the 2.4g has a USB Micro port rather than a USB C port. What kind of nonsense is that =P No reason for device side connectors to not be USB C anymore.
I'll protest with my wallet! ...You know, by purchasing the more expensive USB C + retro receiver version. That'll show 8bitdo.
@carlos82 Thanks, good to know.
@roadrunner343 That’ll show them!
It looks to be a simple but elegant controller if I was to go by looks alone. I am pretty impressed, but I think my first 8bitdo controller will be their SNES Pro. (I think it is called something like that.)
Gonna buy it. Now throw some analog sticks on this bad boy and I’ll never use another controller again.
@impurekind Dang, that is one slick looking D-Pad!
Seems nice but I will never buy another 8bitdo product after both of controllers I got from them ended up breaking.
I love it. I need it. Two of them !!!
Would this contoller work well with games such as Hollow Knight which do not require dual sticks?
@JayJ Broke how, if you don't mind me asking? I thought mine had broken recently, turned out I had to update the firmware using the web tool. Don't know if that would help your situation, but thought it worth mentioning just in case.
My SN30 Pro is my go to controller, to the point that I haven't bought a standard Switch Pro controller. I'm awaiting the release of the SN30 Pro Plus for my second. This does look cool, but those random bugs and lack of sticks are a turn off for me.
@Kisame83
@JayJ had Bluetooth connectivity issues with that cheap N30 arcade joystick they rebranded. He didn’t update the firmware (which I don’t fault him for). He exchanged it for another, had the same issue, and got a refund. He’s been pissing on 8bitdo ever since.
Meanwhile, there’s an M30 sitting on my desk that I get to stare at for the rest of the day while I do paperwork. I’d say an update is to ensue, but I presume I’d just be repeating the review.
Also ran, meanwhile, I just exchanged an Xbox Elite Controller I bought yesterday, because, literally, in my experience, when I buy an Xbox One controller it’s 50/50 whether or not it will be loaded with defects.
No defects in my 8bitdo controllers.
UPDATE:
Yyyyyeeahh booiiii. This is basically an improved hybrid Genesis/Saturn controller. For most things, I will much prefer the N30 Pro or SN30 Pro, but I knew that going in. Warts and all (they nailed the rattly x,y,z and the pushing on a plunger button feel). Negatives: I have a love hate relationship with the triggers/bumpers. Back label covering one of the torx screws is super recessed. Gonna have to mess up a pretty sticker when you eventually replace the battery.
I guess I'd have to try the dpad out in person, because I always thought the dpad on Genesis controllers were straight garbage. SNES dpad is probably the best one for everything from fighters to platformers, IMO.
Don't think this'll have the correct button layout for the Mega Drive/Genesis collection, which unfortunately doesn't let you make any changes. According to this write-up though the Street Fighters will be good to go, and I'm sure the Arcade Archives and Sega Ages series will let you make any changes you need (though the Sega Ages ones tend to use X as Start instead of +).
@ToneDeath
That lack of button mapping on the Mega Drive Collection gave me nightmares.
@impurekind Is that "retro-bit" controller real? What a hideous picture!
Cool! I'll be ordering as soon as I get back to my Mega Drive.
@ReaderRagfihs Your image/link isn't working.
@Ralizah Yup
@RedMageLanakyn
You will hate it. It's a Sega D-Pad, but with the characteristics further exaggerated.
@iakona23
N30 Pro 2, SN30 Pro G Classic or SN30 Pro SN.
Tight d-pads for tight platformers. The M30 d-pad's strength is mostly just Street Fighter and 8-direction run-and-gun's.
@impurekind
To be fair, in a market where an ABS housing is the best that you're going to get: every controller out there is "cheap". But, yes, it gets real sad, real quick with the budget items.
@ReaderRagfihs I'd say that controller image you posted doesn't look so much "cheap" as it does slightly ugly.
Picking one up. It'll go nice with the SNES pad I bought from them.
@robr Thank you for your answer. Much appreciated.
What is the button mappening on this? All I can find is ABXY is BAYX and nothing on CZ or the shoulders.
@RedMageLanakyn Oh, no, Sega's rolling D-Pad is the greatest D-Pad design ever made, due to how easy and accurate it is to push diagonal direactions without impeding your ability to push in the cardinal directions! I just don't understand why nobody else ever adopted the design.
@BulbasaurusRex My thumb just never agreed with it, I've always preferred SNES. Played a lot of both platformers and fighters as a kid, and I would always get wrecked on Genesis, but very good on SNES. Just personal preference, and I'd like to see one in person to see if it's changed over the years.
I didn’t notice the headline, earlier.
Patently, I doubt most people would share the opinion of this being “the best retro controller on Switch”. It may be the best Mega Drive style option out there.
@retro_player_22 Controller arrived today and the USB port also allows the controller to work with PC and Switch via a wired connection. So it isn't just for charging. I would be very surprised if it couldn't also be used to update the firmware. Not so that it can connect to other devices wirelessly (I understand what 2.4GHz and Bluetooth are), but to fix any issues with the general operation or to add new customisation options etc.
Debating if I want to buy this for playing Neo Geo games on Switch.
Has this been patched for megadrive classics?
"the best D-Pad design of all time"
What about the patented Logitech D-Pads? They were rolling too, but silky smooth. You cannot say this is the best D-Pad until you have tried one of them.
I'll buy one of these controllers and confront it with my Logitech, only then I'll be able to say which is the best.
@ReaderRagfish
You're right about it being good, I have this for the PS2 and it's the best 3rd party controller ever made for that console (it also features the patented D-Pad).
P.S. There also was a white "Final Fantasy" variant of this controller, that one looked less cheap.
I just got this controller, flipping fantastic! if you like the dogbone Saturn controller, GET THIS! It's twice as good, seriously. dpad is just as good, much better shoulder buttons, and the overall shape is really evolved and comfy.
best of all, this has the lowest lag of any of my wireless switch controllers (I also have a pro con, and a sn30pro) somehow. I mean, like ZERO lag. I don't know how they did it.
10/10. 👍👍👍
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