
Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee! have been dividing the opinion of Pokémon fans everywhere since they were first announced; eager fans of the series in its current state - and especially those who play competitively - have expressed concern and even outrage at the games' Pokémon GO-inspired traits, while those happy to partake in a quick stopgap for the sake of nostalgia, or those looking for a more gentle way into the mega-franchise, have been delighted to see the titles take a more relaxed approach.
Whichever side of the argument you happen to be on, the fact that the new titles are going out of their way to provide a simpler experience is undeniable. Catching Pokémon is easier than ever with the usual wild encounter style taken away (and this can be simplified further by adding a friend in co-op), and Gyms make sure that you have suitable Pokémon for the challenge before you even enter. All signs are currently pointing towards a game that gets rid of anything unnecessarily tricky to give the series a quick breather before jumping head first into 2019's Generation 8.

But, for anyone worried that these games won't offer anything remotely challenging, the games' director Junichi Masuda has teased something that should be music to your ears. In a chat with Polygon, Masuda talked about the inclusion of these simplified features (noting that the co-op play should go a long way to help children or inexperienced players when they need a helping hand), before explaining that the game will naturally ramp up in difficulty, eventually resulting in encounters with "master trainers" who appear post-game.
“A good portion of the more difficult stuff is in the post-game. There’s ways to strengthen your Pokémon, and the reason you wanna do that is, you take on these master trainers these really powerful trainers that you encounter after the main story.”
Of course, it's worth noting that all press, media, and other influencers have only had hands-on experiences with early portions of the game thus far; it's completely possible that things get tougher after the main story, with Game Freak allowing newcomers to reach the credits without too much problem before giving the 'hardcore' fan base something to cheer about at the end. To provide a similar example, many recent Mario titles have felt a little on the easy side to defeat Bowser, but completely open up with staggeringly difficult post-game content.
One thing's for certain - it will be particularly interesting to see how these games fair when we have the full products in our hands next month. Are you thinking of picking either title up on 16th November?
[source polygon.com]
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Post game huh? For me, Pokémon is all about what happens after I beat the elite four so this is interesting.
Not entirely sure I'll pick up the game but this helps push me towards buying it.
YES!!! I was gonna get it anyway but still, give me some hard, actually unbeatable trainers! Gets a guy with a Lv 20 Chansey XD
Hmm, Gen 1's post game is catching Mewtwo in Cerulean Cave and that's it so this is promising.
I can see them adding tougher fights after crediits roll. Maybe you play through the game agian on a more harder difficulty.
Wonder how this "Master Trainers" concept plays out. I'm not planning on buying Lets Go at the moment, but the promise of post-game content not found in the original games sounds interesting. I just hope it isn't more Battle Tower nonsense.
I've been a bit disappointed by how easy Let's Go seems so this sounds promising. I like Mario's model of being very approachable during the main game and then more challenging in the postgame, so I hope there's a decent challenge here.
@ReaderRagfish
Especially with house rules!
My main concern here is that this will equate to no trainers in the main story, including the Elite Four, having more than three or four Pokémon.
The trend has been to keep reducing the number of Pokémon that a trainer brings out into battle, really reducing the significance of them.
@RupeeClock I remember X & Y being the worst offender of that. It was underwhelming how easy the Pokemon League was.
maybe people can stop crying now about this game being too easy since post game is where is at!
We'll see if people will steamroll all the master trainers with just their starters.
@illmatic20xx not sure about that format in Pokemon since they encourage to keep playing after the game ends to keep catching and training more Pokemon. As opposed to a 'master quest like' feature of replaying the game.
@Dogorilla Now if only Pokémon could follow Mario’s model of being open and full of content in the main game. Accessibility isn’t the only reason Odyssey is so highly regarded.
Good
Awesomesauces everywhere. I'm still looking forward to the game, and my Pokeball Plus. It may even get me to play Go more than once in a blue moon.
Finally a piece of good new regarding these games. I assumed there'd be 0 post game content outside of Cerulean Cave per usual.
I'm still not interested in this. I'm waiting to hear reviews, but still have not liked most of what I heard about this game. My biggest problem still lies with the enjoyment I get from fighting pokemon not just throwing balls to catch them, if I want that somewhat boring mechanic i'll just play pokemon go on my phone.
@link3710 The fact that is has normal Pokemon battles was the best news of all when they confirmed it. People are freaking out for no reason all the tie about everything. The age of outrage is for real.
I highly doubt it will live up to previous entries post game. Even if you go way back to gen 3 with FRLG, they had cool stuff, and were in Kanto. Just hard trainers isn't enough. Hard trainers is the bare minimum, it's called Battle Tower/Maison/Tree. What people want is the cool stuff: B2W2's Pokémon World Tournament, the missing Battle Frontier, even the short post story of ORAS, Episode Delta and USUM, Episode Rainbow Rocket (wich was amazing). That's good post game. Now they're just gonna put some recognizable character like Professor Oak to be a sort of final boss and that's it. Shameful. Oh well, forgive my rant.
Not sure what to think of the Let's Go games. Will see your will they're received but I'm still hardly through Pokémon Moon.
This is good news. Here's to hoping that this translates onto an even better scale in future installments.
At the end of the day Pokemon is what you make of it. Want to level your team to 100 and conquer every player? Go for it. Just want to fill the Pokédex? Go for it. Want to have fun with your son/daughter in a nice casual setting? Go for it. Want to crack open the metagame to challenge online? Go for it. Want to pick a friend and see who can create the most broken team in the game? Go for it.
PLG caters for all levels of player, but is aimed at the lapsed of us that maybe haven’t played since the gameboy but rediscovered a favourite pastime through PoGo.
@Jokerwolf To be fair, we haven't heard well... anything up to this point that would make me want to play this over FRLG, so this is the first good news in my book.
Frankly I'm really looking forward to these games. I got the Pikachu bundle pre-ordered and my hubby is getting the Eevee bundle. We are hardcore Pokémon gamers but its nice to have a bit of a break after Sun/Moon/US/UM, go back to Kanto with these Yellow reimaginings and then get back in to the hardcore style next year. Also I'm looking forward to transferring some Pokémon out of GO and in to these games so that way I don't have to buy more storage. It's so hard in Pokémon GO to keep a living Pokedex. LOL. The only thing I wish is that the Mew in the PokeBall Plus was a shiny. I love blue Mew, it's sad that it won't be shiny.
This, right here, is the perfect example of how these games' "kids only" marketing is throwing the games' selling potential all the way down the drain. Supposedly perfect starting points, sure, but what's there for actual Pokémon fans, especially those who go beyond the usual "but she's got a new hat"?
(Pictured: the Pokémon hype strategy.)We got a lot of trailers that, aside from the riding Pokémon feature, do nothing to hype up the titles, and all the good stuff - what veteran players are actually potentially interested in - is only whispered in aside remarks by Masuda in interviews.
"Oh, there's a postgame."
"By the way, yeah, there are going to be daily challenges."
"Yup, there are master trainers in the postgame."
I do realise this might not be exactly trailer material, but a Pokémon Direct is long overdue - there's almost exactly one more month before these games release, and if the Pokémon Company wants to recover from the preorder fiasco linked below, they need to up their game (heh) now. Like, giving information for newcomers and existing fans alike.
https://nintendosoup.com/pokemon-lets-go-pikachu-eevee-pre-orders-are-falling-at-an-alarming-rate/
The one point of contention for all of us on the fence is whether we're going to get our sixty euros' (or dollars', or pounds', I know) worth when we do pick up the title, and the higher-ups at either Nintendo or the Pokémon Company need to realise this, especially given it's a fully-priced waiting title for Generation VIII right now for us - or at the very least, for me.
Unless we're getting either a detailed Direct or some trailer focusing on something other than "oh look, Lt. Surge is in the game!" - thank you, captain obvious - then, in my case, and I suspect not to be alone in thinking this, what will lead me to buying the game will be watching post-release stuff and walkthroughs. Which is basically word-of-mouth advertising, and when this helps selling a game more than the actual advertising itself, you know the latter has been a total crapfest. Sure: I'll get in a spoiler minefield and will - if the game itself isn't the cash-grab its promotional material makes it out to be - eventually playing the game knowing the plot already; it still beats blindly giving the game an entire working day's payroll on the mere grounds of being a Pokémon fan, which at this point I'm sure is what the Pokémon Company expects its fandom to do.
According to another source on this:
"Apparently after you beat the game, there will be 151 Master Trainers, one for each original Kanto Pokemon. Each has Pokemon at very high levels"
Sounds like each master trainer will only use one Pokemon or have a team centered around one Pokemon.
Pokemon post game huh? Master trainer is it? I hope there’s more than just that but I have a feeling not. Given that battling is my least favourite part of these games that doesn’t do a lot to impress me.
My pre-order isn’t cancelled yet though. Probably due to lack of anything else for my Switch until 2019
@Xaessya
Another dumb choice on the games' part, then.
Got this preordered. I'm getting the Pikachu Switch bundle plus the Eevee game too. Can't wait for this game. Being playing since the beginning of the series and am ready for an easier game that I can play with my four kids.
@AlexSora89
I believe we all know who will have the top Rattata
@Xaessya
I'd laugh at the Youngster Joey joke but right now I'm riled up at how there's more marketing in Masuda's aside comments than the actual trailers themselves. Masuda teased a big postgame, but there's nothing we know that seems to suggest it. At the 3DS games' price tag of 40, this wouldn't be much of an issue. 60, on the other hand, is too steep for a leap of faith to be taken.
The mere moment the internet starts spoiling about the presence of a post-game that reverse-engineers Gold and Silver's own post-game with a trip to Johto, then going to Mt. Silver and being challenged by Ethan, or at the very least the return of Black 2 and White 2's Pokémon World Tournament, now that will be the point I get out of my doorstep to buy the damned cartridge. Otherwise, however, tough luck for the Pokémon Company. I'm pretty sure the Pokémon apologists in here will come at me with torches and pitchforks with the usual "the Pokémon Company will do without your sale, you're just a drop in the sea to them", but I'm afraid there are several other drops cut from my same cloth out there.
This got my intrest
I'm going to need more info in this post-game content, before I'm convinced. FireRed/LeafGreen had some beefy post-game, so it's still a tough sell for me.
I'm really looking forward to Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu as it seems like a perfect game to play with the kids. Pokemon Yellow is the only Pokemon game that I've actually played through (except for the Stadium type games) and I actually know the 151 Pokemon.
I'm hoping to enjoy the game for the graphics and music. I'll reserve judgement on the hard stuff when the real Pokemon game comes out in 2019.
Still not very interested. I'm fine waiting for the proper gen 8 game next year.
Nah, I'll just borrow this one.
@Diogmites I mean, sure. But that begs the question; why does it need to be easier?
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