Tomorrow, Analogue will start shipping its latest system, the Super Nt. Like the company's other consoles - such as the wooden Neo Geo and Analogue Nt Mini - this is a classic reborn; Nintendo's 16-bit legend reimagined with Field-Programmable Gate Array technology to deliver an experience which aims to better the original.
Analogue founder Christopher Taber has spoken to Polygon about the history of the company and why he chose to tackle one of the most iconic gaming systems of all time. He reveals that he started out collecting games before eventually moving into repairing and modifying classic consoles. The legendary wooden CMVS was his first project, and one he openly admits was aimed at too small an audience. The Analogue Nt followed - an attempt to make the perfect aftermarket NES using original components - but Taber then hit upon what has become something of a defining system, the FPGA-based Analogue Nt Mini.
Taber explains why FPGA technology is so revolutionary when it comes to retro gaming:
Emulators are great, and the guys who make them work their tails off to get [them] to work. But, ultimately, they’re making one-off patches to fix when the ROM is off by a microsecond, when it goes into Mode 7 or whatever. An FPGA works on a circuit level — it runs in parallel, like a true PCB. It works by replicating the cause, not the effect.
He also explains the rigorous testing process behind checking the console's compatibility with the SNES library; Analogue is working with a network of beta-testers and collectors to ensure every game works as it should:
These guys play every game to check for inconsistencies. With the Nt Mini, we’ve eliminated every reported bug through firmware updates, and we remain committed to that. We’re dedicated to it on that level.
The Super Nt is unique in that it will give players the opportunity to experience the cult SNES title Super Turrican in its intended form. Taber has worked with Factor 5 president and co-founder Julian Eggebrecht to bring the "Director's Cut" to the console, a version which massively improves on the one which actually made it to retail.
Eggebrecht reveals that the amount of money that changed hands to secure Super Turrican (and its sequel) on the Super Nt is "nominal" and that the release is more about rewarding fans with the definitive version than making cash:
We definitely aren’t feeding the team off it or anything. But Super Turrican is very important to me, because it was Factor 5’s big chance to go from a local European developer to make it out in the wide world, having a game in the U.S. and Japan. It made my career, in a way. When I went to CES in 1993 and I met people at LucasArts, they had all played Super Turrican. And that’s why they wanted to work with me, and that’s how my later career happened. Of course, I didn’t have the heart to tell them it was an incomplete version.
Naturally, the question of what Analogue is working on next crops up, and Taber reveals that as a kid, he was a Sega fanboy first and foremost. That could be the biggest hint yet regarding the company's next project:
I mean, hey, I’m a Sega kid. Who knows? Maybe we’re already working on it.
Finally, Taber explains why he created the company, and what drives him forward:
Not everybody wants a museum-grade experience when they boot up their old console. But, for the people who do want that, I want them to know that we can make that happen.
We'll be reviewing the Super Nt when it launches, so keep an eye out for that if you're interested in seeing how this uber-SNES shapes up.
[source polygon.com]
Comments (35)
Already regretting not having pre ordered one... adulting is hard.
Hope their MegaDr, or whatever it'll potentially get called, will bury AtGames' efforts, especially if Analogue keeps the price parity with the Super Nt. I never had a Genesis or SMS, but I can empathize with the SEGA fans that deserve a proper throwback console with 100% compatibility, even with the docked carts.
It's funny : he uses different words to say the same thing. His team is busy fixing bugs in the hardware emulation done by the FPGA and it's a proof of how great they are.
But when a software developer is doing the same thing to fix bugs in an software emulator, suddenly, it's a proof of how flawed the software approach is.
I have contacted these guys like a hundred times just asking if they and when they believe they will release a new batch and there is not a single answer to my question.
Not even a "we don't know", or not now, anything. They keep tweeting other stuff, is annoying that companies can just answer a simple question a to a potential client.
@Grimault
I'm not a technical person, but I was a believer when I got my AVS. Software emulation that exists always adds lag. Maybe its possible as technology advances to get rid of it but I've never been able to beat Mike Tyson's Punchout in an emulator. It wasn't even close with the nes classic. Then the AVS comes and I can beat it handily on most tvs (with the HDTV lag being the limiting factor). It's awesome it feels so good to play because everything is so responsive. The games truly feel different and I don't think people would rag on retro controls as much if they experienced this rather than cheaper emulation.
It also interacts with the cartridge in real time. So if a game saves you can just pull it out and plop it in another system and it'll work perfectly. No playing around will extra saves.
Also if you look at somewhere emulation, most emulators have a bunch of workarounds for different games. Nintendo's solution for the virtual console was to create a different emulator for each game. Hardware emulation is different in that as long as the mapper is correct, all games for the mapper should work perfectly. The biggest issues the Original NT mini had was with games with custom hardware such as the Everdrive. So day 1, it didn't work with an FGPA piggybacked into it. But it does now.
@AlbertXi
I don't think they know and they probably get asked this a ton. They are a really small company and can only do batch runs of these when they are able to get manufacturing time and when they have enough demand to say sell 5,000 right away. They don't seem to have the capital to sit on inventory or pay a manufacturer upfront. Their development team is literally Kevtris, so 1 person.
It be nice if they had better communication. Maybe I'm just used to the typical poor communication you get from niche companies like the company that makes the Everdrive. Bought mine on black Friday sale, and didn't get any communication until it shipped 3 months later. So maybe my expectations are low. But if I get a world class product, it's okay with me. I can wait.
Unfortunately couldn’t make an order for the first batch but really hoping to grab one of the next batch.
@Shiryu - same here. The impulsiveness, child like part of me wants this now but the other adult sensible part says wait until I have the spare funds when I won't get in trouble with my wife, and then a possible better revised version may exist to reward my patience.
@JaxxDuffer .... but that Super Turrican Director's Cut is driving me up a wall.
@cleveland124
I'm not here to say FPGA are bad, I'd love to have a Super NT (but they are sold out and I didn't want to buy one before a review) and latency is, according to byuu, one of the strength of an FPGA, because their isn't a general purpose OS between the emulation and the hardware : https://byuu.org/articles/fpgas-arent-magic/
He also speak about the different kinds of emulators and said that Mr Taber forgot about accuracy oriented emulators, comparing the Super NT with old emulators, created to work with old computers.
What I'm saying is : Mr Taber does said « If they find a bug, they fix It » in both cases, just with different words and different consequences. But fixing bug should be a proof of dedication in both cases, not just in the case of the Super NT team.
Genesis, now that gets me possibly interested
It's hit or miss with them. I pre-ordered and purchased an Analogue NT a few years back and the communication leading up to the release was minimal. After I got my unit tho and I had a few questions/needed a firmware update - their response and action was flawless. Anytime I have emailed them about my unit since they have been great.
It might just be a case of the company getting bigger, faster than they anticipated.
And I know it's a shot in the dark but I really want them to do a TG-16 :/
"Finally, Taber explains why he created the company, and what drives him forward:
Not everybody wants a museum-grade experience when they boot up their old console. But, for the people who do want that, I want them to know that we can make that happen."
Well, if that is supposed to be explaining, then call me crazy, because that explanation makes no sense to me at all.
I would interpret a "museum grade experience when booting up a console" as a bad thing, not a good one, as in: fossilized console...
@denis09 Not making an effort? Apparently, you have never read any of my previous comments...
But all joking aside, I gather that this must have been what he meant, but only because of the second part of the sentence. I would say first-rate, high grade, or anything similar, but not "museum-grade".
The word museum, to most people, is a synonym for old or ancient. In relation to a flawlessly working new console, it just sounds off.
I can't wait for my Super NT to arrive, ships tomorrow.
I will be getting one in the summer.
Why isn't Nintendo making stuff like this? They really do not know their market at all.
Dan Stevens?
I ordered the one based on the super famicom. Love hdmi but I kind of wish it came with a port for s video but I can live without. I hope there next system is based on the mega drive or the master system
What a great firm. I have an analogue NT and absolutely love it. Based on its quality, I preordered the new SNES one and can’t wait to try it out.
@Shiryu Wave 2 preorders starting in 5 minutes
@AlbertXi Wave 2 Preorders start today
@hippoeater I think your conclusion is correct. I think there were a number of unforeseen issues and some delays when the original NT was set to launch that dominated their time and took away from answering questions. I've heard nothing but good things about them before and since. It looks like they do good work. I think going the FPGA route, as opposed to redesigned original hardware, will be good for them on many levels. They can offer patches and don't have to source original Famicoms. It eliminates a lot of the headaches of the first NT.
@Shiryu I hear you. That Super NT announcement came out of nowhere for me and the thought of an FPGA SNES core was rather tempting. I recall that being nowhere near ready back during the Coleco Chameleon saga. Then the announcement of the Super Turrican Director's Cut made it(not buying one) even worse. I just remembered a few days ago that Super Turrican was going to be released complete with this thing. That's a great thing. But as you said, sometimes being an adult gets in the way.
@Grimault
When a standalone computer with a cartridge slot and two snes controller ports with lag free free software emulation hits for under $200 I'll be interested. Until then I'm going to continue to be amazed by the value of FGPA and the lagfree benefits that the article you linked mentioned isn't possible on current PCs.
I do wish it was easier to get ahold of too. I hate seeing people scalp these. I just think it's hard for a small company with limited capital making a niche product to hit demand. I'm leaning towards buying an nt mini too but I'm in the waiting boat with you there. Such is life.
@Grimault
Preorder back up. Go go go!
@Dreamcaster-X Thanks, Got One
@cleveland124 I knew about that version existence for years, it's existence was covered on Nintendo Life years ago. I have been a huge fan of Factor 5 and the Turrican series in particular since the Commodore Amiga days, I truly must have that game in some way down the line.
@AlbertXi They released the next wave of pre-orders today.
@AlbertXi Awesome!! I plan on playing mine all weekend if it shows up on time. = )
I'm getting a clear one in the first batch but now I'm tempted to buy another color in the second batch.
I have the weekend off hopefully mine shows up in time for the weekend! 😁
@cleveland124
Thank.
I'm still waiting for the reviews : keeping my 200-250 € and not having the SuperNT is better IMHO than having a Super NT and be disappointed by it.
@Grimault
Hopefully now that nintendolife reviewed it and called it the ultimate way to play snes in 2018 you are in.
I have had my super nt for almost a month now and its as good as they say. Now everytime I play my sega systems I wish there was an analogue option. They don't have to make a master system but a mega drive with master system power base capabilities.
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