This week - in New York City - Nintendo invited us to play Hey! Pikmin, the first title in the series developed outside of Nintendo's internal teams. Hey! Pikmin is being developed by Arzest, the studio behind Yoshi's New Island, which failed to make a big splash with 3DS owners.
Hey! Pikmin takes a totally new approach with the franchise. Rather than a spacious open world for you to explore full of puzzles for you to solve, Hey! Pikmin is much more straightforward and adopts a 2D approach. Levels are side-scrolling, with the Circle Pad being used to move Captain Olimar around the screen. You start the game out with a jetpack and a whistle; the whistle serves the same function it did in the original Pikmin titles, which is to round up your adorable little plant helpers.
The objective also remains the same, which is collecting items to return to your ship to generate fuel for a return trip home. This time around, however, rather than having your Pikmin deliver these items you have a convenient teleporter that will move the item back to the ship for you once your pikmin have lifted it off the ground.
In a way the game feels a bit like Pikmin meets Donkey Kong Country. You move side to side and as you see enemies or obstacles you tap the screen to throw Pikmin at the problem. We were told there would be multiple paths you could follow, though we only had the time to try the game’s opening stages.
Since all non-movement actions are done using the touch screen, such as blowing your whistle by tapping the bottom-right-hand corner or having Pikmin pick up 'Sparklenium' for you by tapping its location on the screen - and seeing a Pikmin launch toward it - 3DS face buttons can used for movement; left-handed players don’t get left out in the cold. Each mission ends with you reaching the goal for that area; it’s a process that will be familiar to those who have played Nintendo’s older games, but would feel foreign to more recent Pikmin fans.
Once you beat a stage you can go to Pikmin Park. In Pikmin Park any Pikmin you bring with you as companions to the end of a stage will hang out, waiting for a command - there are different sections of the park, each containing their own obstacles for you to deploy the little creatures to. We were told the Pikmin will bring back fuel for Olimar’s ship, but were unable to confirm this in the demo we played; in any case the loop of clearing stages, then using accumulated Pikmin in the Park to grab fuel, is starting to become clear.
Visually, Hey! Pikmin looks pretty nice. It’s still neat to see a bunch of pikmin lifting an electric toothbrush like it’s the find of the century. Of the three stages we played each of them seemed a bit on the short side. however, and we weren’t able to get numbers indicating how long a typical playthrough would take, unfortunately. The levels we tried only contained one type of Pikmin at a time, though we’re told that can change as well. We weren’t given any details on how you choose the type of Pikmin you would be using in a particular level, but we’ll keep our eyes open for more details in the coming weeks.
Right now, from what we played, we’re cautiously optimistic about Hey! Pikmin. It looks and plays well, but it could also potentially get tiring quickly. As release gets closer we'll naturally give it the full review treatment, but for now let us know what you think of it in the comments.
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not really sold on the move to 2d on this one
I'm a huge Pikmin fan, but I don't know what to make of this side-scrolling style gameplay. I would have much preferred a traditional style Pikmin game for 3DS. I'll keep my eye on this one.
Hey! The Hey! article for Hey! Pikmin makes Hey! Pikmin look alright. Hey!
People won't accept something new.
They don't understand that Pikmin 4 will be on switch at E3
This game is a Spin off guys -.-
A game that eschews almost everything people loved about the original and produced by a team with a record of underwhelming performance? What can go wrong?!
@Nin_Myski
"This game is a Spin off guys -.-"
So was Metroid Prime Federation Force.
@AirElephant From what I saw, MPFF had a good gameplay.
I remember that people would not stop ing this game because it was "not like the others".
I mean, if they want some change, why do they these changes?!
@AirElephant I fully expect this to be about 5 or 6 around these parts and a metascore hovering around 60 at best. I mean, that's not bad, and I think for a title like this that's not the worst thing that's ever happened. I think it's hard to quantify something as a disappointment if you don't go in expect much, and that mindset will likely do Pikmin fans well with this one. Hopefully releasing this on the 3DS will get more people interested in a full-on Switch sequel, since original entries in the series have only appeared on Nintendo's least popular consoles, which is a shame. I really enjoyed Pikmin 3!
When I first saw a 2D sidescrolling Pikmin I was hyped. Now that I'm hearing it's a touch-screen game that you blow to get it to function.....I'm a lot, lot less hyped. The visual style of the game looks perfect, but the imprecise nature of the controls is making this feel like a "pass". Touch screen is fine for inventory or hitting a big softbutton that adds quick access to features, but relying on the resistive screens on 3DS/WiiU for primary input just never felt solid to me.
On the other hand it's one last blast for DS style gameplay, so there's some value in that.
I'll buy it, it looks quite fun. And I'd bet there'll be a major Pikmin game coming this year.
I'll still get it. I love Pikmin!
@NEStalgia I think you mis-read "such as blowing your whistle by tapping the bottom-right-hand corner". No annoying blowing into the mic mentioned there
Hey ! Arnold (Nickelodeon)
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Hey ! Pikmin (Nintendo 3DS)
@Equinox Yeah, I wish this were a phone game. Seems a good fit.
In any case, I'm getting that amiibo!
There are 8 million better names than Hey! Pikmin, and only 3 worse ones.
Does this game have the 3D effect or was it made with the New 2DS XL in mind?
My kids are looking forward to this day 1, but if we finally, after all this time, finally hear something official about Pikmin 4 on Switch, this may get a pass.
@Equinox Agreed. Should have gone all-touch and put it on mobile.
Not for me.
@Nin_Myski We have no evidence that this isn't Pikmin 4.
@ether_breather Looking at the screen size + resolution it would be a pain in the ass to play this game in the traditional set up...
@ThomasBW84 Haha, ahh, right you are. I somehow envisioned "blowing your whistle" involved actually blowing on the 3DS to blow it. Only on 3DS/DS could we actually legitimately make that mistake
It doesn't help the touch based input but at least we're past the days of blowing on our consoles. Console blowing: 1983 NES - 2017 3DS.
@LeRaposa Miyamoto is involved with Pikmin 4. Miyamoto isn't involved with this game.
i'm buying it because i like the idea of this game as a 2d scroller. I don't have a problem with them trying something new with their IPs
@NEStalgia I always died a little inside when any DS / 3DS game wanted me to make noise or blow into the mic.
Hey! Pikmin reminds me of Chibi-Robo: Zip Lash in that virtually everything that made the original concepts unique is ripped away and all you're left with is an unremarkable, forgettable side-scroller.
Frankly, I'm fed up with all of these bland side-scrollers. Where are all them 3D platformers at?!
If this game is like Kirby Mass Attack, then I am likely to absolutely love it. I'm not sure it is, though.
@ThomasBW84 You and me both! I just closed my eyes and pretended it was that ($#(*($#@ copy of Hogan's Alley that never booted without a good blow!
@sillygostly Hey I enjoyed Zip Lash! But the 3DS side scrollers do feel like they're churning them out of a machine.
@AirElephant uh, so was metroid prime. Not all spin offs are bad.
I'm willing to give this a chance. Adventure/puzzle sounds fine. I really want the amiibo, so might as well get it bundled.
Edit:Doesn't look like there is a bundle. Available separately. Oh well.
@LeRaposa For one, it isn't titled Pikmin 4. But then I guess you can make the argument Super Mario World wasn't titled Super Mario Bros 4 Or Link to the Past isn't titled Zelda 3. So there is precedence obviously.
But Pikmin is a very beloved franchise (obviously, not as popular as some other Nintendo franchises). I highly doubt Nintendo would blow a main series entry on the 3DS, with an outside developer, in 2D and with a main departure from its standard game play.
I'm a huge fan of the series so I really hope this isn't the Pikmin 4 Miyamoto was talking about. As for the game itself, I'll wait for reviews, which is something I do VERY rarely.
This'll serve as a fun, arcade-style break from all the JRPGs I'm getting behind on. If I need a filler title, it may as well be Pikmin.
Funny how I get a sort of Toki Tori2+ vibe from it.
I'm open to trying something new, and I have a feeling that I will enjoy this game.
Although I'm not planning on getting this I hope it's good.
That being said seeing as Arzest the guys that somehow made Yoshi boring are making it I doubt it will.
"In a way the game feels a bit like Pikmin meets Donkey Kong Country"
Well guess i'm interested now.
"Hey! Pikmin is being developed by Arzest, the studio behind Yoshi's New Island"
Well that's one less game to buy I suppose.
@AirElephant Right, and Federation Force met with generally positive reviews from those who actually played it. Sure, it was a sales failure, but I personally had a great time with the game, which is incidentally a total blast in local co-op.
The fact that Arzest is involved in Hey, Pikmin's development is undoubtedly a legitimate cause for concern, but don't write off a game simply because it's a spinoff. If everyone had that attitude Mario Kart would have never taken off.
@rjejr
And the 3 worse names are Hey! Pikmin 2, Hey! Pikmin 3, and Hey! Pikmin 4.
Great, touchscreen controls, because they always turn out good don't they?
I just want the Pikmin amiibo. For now.
In looks it reminds me of Chibi Robo Ziplash, which wasn't bad but was just bland... I'm honestly having trouble getting excited...
I'm open-minded, but I'm just going to go play some more Pikmin 2.
@Stubi Lemmings is awesome, but lemmings doesn't involve imprecise resistive touch screen inputs.
Granted that I'd rather have the original 2 gamecube titles make their way to the 3DS instead, this still looks pretty good and fun, and I'll definitely be purchasing it and the new Amiibo that comes out the same day...however, I was also one that fell in love with the Chibi Robo Zip Lash game and thought Yoshi's New Island was a pretty decent title...the latter being the same exact Super Mario World 2 title with added movies. Looking forward to this one!
@NEStalgia Lemmings is a great game, still play it on the PS3 in hoping that a new one comes for PS4. Hopefully Sony makes a new one or re-releases the PS3 version...but yeah, Lemmings is nothing like Pikmin.
@Stubi Lemmings is more strategy than platform, so this game looks nothing like Lemmings, but may share some of the same similarities. This game sort of reminds me of Tokobot and Sonic Heroes in a way.
I like Pikmin a bit, don't love it, but for some reason this 2D style is impressing me a lot with the gameplay angle of Pikmin. Looking forward to more info on it.
@thesilverbrick I agree...Metroid Prime Federation was a fun title, and people need to not look at reviews and graphics on all of the games, there are some that turn out pretty fun. Yoshi's New Island (granted it's just an updated Mario World 2) was still fun and had the nintendo charm and Chibi Robo Zip Lash was a pretty decent platform title for the 3DS. People are knit-picking on this Pikmin game because it's not like the original 3 and it's something different, and if a company doesn't try different means in a franchise, and just keeps the same thing going throughout it's life, it does get boring rather quickly and the franchise ends up dying off...then there's more complaining about a company not giving a franchise another chance.
@LeRaposa Except the name is Hey! Pikmin, not Pikmin 4.
@Franklin New Pikmin, New Pikmin XL, New Pikmin 2D.
@JLPick Lemmings is credited as basically the grandfather of the RTS genre, so in that sense, Pikmin is a pseudo-RTS and is therefore a decedent of Lemmings to a degree. Putting it in 2D probably just crystallizes it a bit.
As for real Lemmings I'm not even sure who owns the IP at this point. Psygnosis was shut down and merged into SCE Studio Liverpool, then that was shut down. They've been the WipEout studio so long I can scarcely remember their work from the old days. My PS4 PSN avatar is a lemming So I assume they MUST still own the rights....or it could be grandfathered in.
The original Lemmings was one of my favorite SNES games!
It's interesting to see people still arguing over the "changed gameplay" that plagued Paper Mario Color Splash and Metroid Prime Federation Force.
If people aren't interested in the game, then let them not be interested. Just because they liked previous entries in the franchise doesn't mean they are obligated to buy anything Nintendo throws at them.
Same goes for those who aren't interested; just because you don't like the direction the game is taking, that doesn't mean the game is universally bad. Everyone needs to stop arguing over subjective matters.
@wiggleronacid I think "changed gameplay" only applies to Paper Mario here since it changed the actual genre of the core series. FF and this are spinoff games in a different genre, off the side of the main series, so it's not even a changed gameplay argument.
@NEStalgia Very true. I think a lot of people refuse to accept that until we see another main entry in each series and that might be why there is so much controversy over these titles.
@iMarkU I agree, but that won't stop me from dreaming!
2d Pikmin looks fun, but doesn't look anywhere near as fun as 3d pikmin. I'll probably get it. Watching gameplay of it on youtube makes me wonna play Pikmin 3 again!
@wiggleronacid True. Metroid has been on hiatus a little too long so it's more understandable there. We just had a new pikmin last console, so i hoped people would recognize the handheld spinoff of a console game when they saw one
This looks like one of the many smaller games that Iwata kicked into play to plug a schedule line up gaps. Inturn they seem to do poorly and tarnish the Ip.
Take metroid federation, as an example of this.
Looks like a good 3ds game, I'll get to play on my New 2ds XL
Not interested in the slightest whatsoever in this game, but that new Pikmin amiibo looks neat and I want it. Too bad Nintendo will only manufacture about 17 of them. Still, that's better than the 16 Breath of the Wild amiibo they put out.
This looks like it's going to be a really good game. Having Pikmen in a 2D platformed could lead to alot of interesting gameplay choices if done right. The team behind the game has made a few lackluster games before, but Pikmen has never been too much of an amazing series. And by that I mean Pikmen has always been a relaxing game series. It's just so fun and friendly that you can't really hate it. So unlike games like new yoshis island, I think they have a good shot at making this a good game.
Not super excited about this one despite being a big Pikmin fan. It's not the change to 2D that bothers me, I encourage experimentation. But the control scheme seems so awkward. It's like Kid Icarus Uprising all over again. A good game marred by bad controls.
@MarioPhD
Finally got a chance to reply. Yes, I hope it helps the Pikmin franchise as well. I just don't understand why developers rush in a new direction, though, when fans ADORE the originals and simply want more with a few tweaks.
@Sabroni
"Not all spin offs are bad."
True that, Sabroni. However, the Nintendolife crew is already iffy about it, so there is cause for a bit of hesitancy on my part. I'm not a huge Pikmin fan myself, though I'd seriously consider picking up 1 or 2 if they put the GC versions on the Switch Virtual Console. But when you leave people waiting for years between sequels and then present something that isn't even in the same genre, expect disappointment.
Looks fun, I think I'll give it a go, it will ease the wait for Pikmin 4 on Switch! Nice to see spinoffs out of mainline franchises, it helps keeping things fresh and bring new dameplay elements different from the tried and true! Yay for creative freedom!
@wiggleronacid That's exactly it. I expect to enjoy this title, but I'll enjoy it even more when I have solid proof that this isn't Pikmin from now on. Paper Mario is the exact cause for concern. Once the fourth Pikmin is announced, I'll fully embrace this (assuming it's any good).
@Nin_Myski would makes sense and let's hope so!
Obviously when you adapt a game like Pikmin into 2D to accommodate a weaker handheld with tiny screen, it's not going to be as good as the main series... but this game still looks really good. I'll definitely be checking it out
@Ras
I can promise you, this is not "Pikmin from now on"
The only reason this game is 2D and different is because of the 3DS hardware limitations. They didn't choose this style because they thought it was some great new direction for the series, they chose this style because adapating the series into 2D allows for a better fit on handheld. Miyamoto even said in past interviews the reason they hadn't brought the series to 3DS yet was because the Pikmin would be too small and too numerous for the meager 3DS hardware. This is the answer to that problem.
Which means, when the next true entry arrives on Switch, it's not going to look like this at all because this isn't what they're aiming for- this is just the best they can do on a weak handheld with a small screen. The Pikmin series is Miamoto's baby, and he has gone on record saying he wants the series to become as popular as Mario. So you can bet your bottom dollar we're going to get a main series entry on Switch (it's probably already in development, and likely the one Miamoto was referring to when he said Pikmin 4 was almost finished, since this is not Pikmin 4- they clearly named it differently to distinguish itself from the main series).
Not interested at all. It doesn't seem bad, but I've never played one of the main Pikmin games. I do hope it doesn't stir up the craziness Federation Force did - that truly was at a whole different level.
@NEStalgia Sony still owns the rights, and I happened to see a new Avatar for Plus members pop up in the PS4 store somewhere. Would still be nice to see a new one...I remember first playing it on the PC back in the early 90's or before...kind of forget. There's been so many games that mimicked it, but for some reason, I always though of Pikmin as more an adventure-strategy title, more than what Lemmings was...I always pictured the Worms titles as a Lemmings-type game too. But, I guess we should keep this to ourselves...nintendo fans don't seem to like it if they find out nintendo copied off of something...only sony is allowed to do that!!! Anyways, thanks for the heads up, it's been so long since I remember Lemmings, and never really looked at Pikmin in that way, but I can see a little resemblance!!!
@JaxonH They technically could put the first 2 games on the 3DS, even if they're the Gamecube ports. The 3DS was able to hold Mario 64 (the DS era) and even held Ocarina Of Time and Xenoblade Chronicles...the latter being a Wii title. If it can hold Wii games, then it surely could hold a Gamecube title...which is something that I never got that they didn't try to do on it to begin with.
@JLPick
It's not that they can't get the games to run, it's that 100 Pikmin on a 240p 4" screen would look like crap, not to mention 3DS wouldn't be able to handle that many on screen characters.
In 2D notice how they make the Pikmin much, much larger compared to Olimar. And don't have nearly as many on screen at a time.
This comments section has just really made me want a Lemmings game on the Switch.
Given the universal standard for all game controllers is D-Pad on the left, which all southpaws must have gotten used to by now, I ask this: are there actually any left handed people who use the face buttons for movement?!
@AirElephant Pikmin 2 eschewed loads of stuff about Pikmin 1 and people still liked it. In fact these Hey! Pikmin levels remind me quite a bit of the linear Pikmin 2 caves.
The difference seems to be the fans. Between early 2000's and now there seem to be a lot more killjoys who want to assert the quality of a game before it releases on the merit purely based on similarities to the old ones.
Some people seemingly can't wait to see how it stacks up, and want to give the game a bad reputation just for being different. Even if it doesn't seem to be your preference, how is that fair? The game can still be good.
I think a lot of people seem to be dancing around the fact that this game has a 90% chance of being mediocre at best with Arzest at the helm.
Also I'm not one to dislike a game because it's different, this just looks really dull and happens to be different at the same time.
I just wish it was called "Oi! Pikmin!"
Another waste of resources
This one seems like it could be pretty good, so I'm cautiously optimistic for it. Hopefully it's well optimized on older 3DS models, so people like me who own a 2DS don't get jank. I love Pikmin 3, and I sure hope 4 is on its way to the Switch!
I don't there is no reason to be mad about it because it's just a harmless spin off. Also about the developer, Yoshi's New Island wasn't that bad of a game.
@RadioHedgeFund
I tried using the face buttons for movement in Mario Hoops 3 on 3 but couldn't stand it. I ended up playing it right handed. It was still a bit annoying at first but I got use to it.
@AirElephant Yes, but the Federation Force equivalent to the Pikmin series would look something like this:
@NEStalgia
Don't feel bad, i mis-read that, too, and groaned. Always hated looking like an idiot whilst playing a game, and there's no way to not look like an idiot whilst blowing into your handheld. (That sentence sounds wrong on many levels )
those who talk about MPFF and PMColor Splash, can you guys explain me who Hey! Pikmin is linked to these games?
Sounds awful TBH. I smell another cheap spin-off knocked together to fill space on the release schedule. I would say "it'll be worth a go when it's £10 next year" but that third-rate Chibi Robo platformer wasnt even worth that.
@Dr_Lugae
I don't disagree. Nintendo has been the champion of taking franchises and characters in entirely new directions, often yielding unexpected (and popular) games that people didn't even know they wanted. The best example of this is probably Super Mario 64.
It feels like Nintendo wants to keep the Pikmin franchise alive but either Mr. M doesn't have the time to develop a full Pikmin game, or they've determined that there isn't enough interest. So they hand it off to a 2nd party and they program something closer to a game they'd either already been working on or that was closer to their skillset.
I'm not saying the game will be bad, at all. However, the N-Life guys seem tepid so far, and they're generally fans of Nintendo and its licensees. However, yhe game isn't finished and a lot can happen between now and release.
Unless the game really does something uniquely new and fresh, I expect the reception to be lukewarm.
@AirElephant At Pikmin 3 was release on Wii U. Metroid Prime hasn't had a proper game since the old Wii.
@MattFox Just by saying that, you are cool!
It looks okay, think I'll pass. I have too many other games to play
This definitely seems like an excellent game that shows Nintendo is fully committed to supporting the 3DS as much as the Switch with their best software.
Why should I buy Mario Odyssey, Zelda BOTW, Spkatoon 2, and Xenoblade 2 on the Switch when I can just spend all that money to buy a masterpiece like Hey Pikmin on the 3DS (alongside the glorious Pikmin amiibo)??
Really kind of confused as to why Nintendo continues to trust Arzest with its IP's.
@Equinox
Yes, that would've worked! And we'd probably be a bit less hostile towards it.....maybe?
I still imagine there was a Nintendo rep. Sweating bullits repeating `but these are just the demo levels, it will be present in the main game!`
While taking notes to improve on this polished piece of.....software.
I like the look of the game but it will never compare to a 3D Pikmin.
Don't think I'd want to pay full price for it though.
I'm not a Pikman fan but this version doesn't look right. I would think after all this time they would do a large open world for its fans. Hopefully this one is fun but even better a proper release on Switch would be great.
Good luck selling Arlo (the Youtuber) on this cautious optimism.
tho i want to see more released for the 3ds, i am not a fan of side scrollers. tho i would love to play pikmin on my 3ds it wont be this...
@Fandabidozi Won't happen though, since Sony owns the rights to the Lemmings titles.
Just played the demo and it feels more like a pirate Pikmin game, with design flaws that you wouldn't expect to see on an official Nintendo release.
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